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User currently offlineGayrugbyMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 1737 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 30142 times:

Who operates the oldest Boeing 747 still in regular passenger service?

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User currently offlineA300 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 476 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 30103 times:
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Iranian Air Force has some early made ones in the tanker/transport role. Iran air has several from mid-70s.


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User currently offlineTg 747-300 From Norway, joined Nov 1999, 1318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 30013 times:

Orient Thai should have some good old 747's Not saying their the oldest, but I'll think they might be close.

tg 747-300



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User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 61
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 29993 times:

I believe its an Evergreen 741. Do a photosearch maybe?


What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4696 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 29993 times:

Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 3):
I believe its an Evergreen 741. Do a photosearch maybe?

On a passenger service?



Homer: Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true!
User currently offlineCHRISBA777ER From UK - England, joined Mar 2001, 5964 posts, RR: 61
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 29945 times:

Quoting TriStar500 (Reply 4):
Quoting CHRISBA777ER (Reply 3):
I believe its an Evergreen 741. Do a photosearch maybe?

On a passenger service?

LOL oops sorry my bad.

In that case the IR 742.



What do you mean you dont have any bourbon? Do you know how far it is to Houston? What kind of airline is this???
User currently offlineDebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2471 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 29890 times:

Quoting A300 (Reply 1):
Iranian Air Force has some early made ones in the tanker/transport role.

You are right... It is reported, that Iran AF is flying one B747-100 c/n 5!! but too little is known, if still active...

On passenger service, I would guess KABO AIR Nigeria... But also, too little is known, if these a/c still operates...


User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 29852 times:

What about this bird??
If you read the comment, it seems as though this plane has been around for a while...

Comments ?


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User currently offlineA300 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 476 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 29787 times:
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I have seen some of the Iranian Air Force 747s landing at Tehran-Mehrabad. I couldn't see the registration to know if it was in fact c/n 5 aircraft.


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User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 29742 times:

Quoting A300 (Reply 1):
Iranian Air Force has some early made ones in the tanker/transport role.



Quoting Debonair (Reply 6):
On passenger service, I would guess KABO AIR Nigeria... But also, too little is known, if these a/c still operates...

Iranian Air force has indeed several of the oldest B747s still active, but these are freighters/tankers.
The oldest active pax 747 might be 5N-EEE c/n 19732

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but I don't know whther it's still active nor do I know whether it's doing regular services. It was last seen in 2004.

Quoting A300 (Reply 1):
Orient Thai should have some good old 747's Not saying their the oldest,

You might be closer than you thought. If Kabo Air isn't doing any regular operations, the oldest one that is doing regular pax services is likely Oreint Thai's HS-UTP 20530

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User currently offlineTitch From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 329 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 29692 times:

Quoting AMSSFO (Reply 9):
The oldest active pax 747 might be 5N-EEE c/n 19732

Kabo Air actually have another 747 in pax configuration that's actually older than 5N-EEE; 5N-RRR (c/n 19765) was originally delivered on March 7th 1971, two months before 5N-EEE. Whether it's still flying or not is a different matter.....


Cheers,
Titch



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User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 36
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 29512 times:

With regards to Kabo Air, the latest available information on its 747 fleet is the following:

Type: B.747-136
Serial: 19766/111
Engines: JT9D-7A
1st Flight: 13-02-71
1st Delivery: 14-03-71 (BA)
Reg: 5N-JJJ
Operator: Kabo Air
IATA code: N2
Status: Derelict at KAN
Remarks: 109,944 hours
Last update: 16-Dec-2005

Type: B.747-136
Serial: 20952/246
Engines: JT9D-7A
1st Flight: 20-09-74
1st Delivery: 06-11-74 (BA)
Reg: 5N-OOO
Operator: Kabo Air
IATA code: N2
Status: Stored
Last update: 20-Jan-2006

Type: B.747-136
Serial: 19765/109
Engines: JT9D-7A
1st Flight: 10-02-71
1st Delivery: 05-03-71 (BA)
Reg: 5N-RRR
Operator: Kabo Air
IATA code: N2
Status: Derelict at KAN
Last update: 16-Dec-2005

Type: B.747-243B
Serial: 19732/134
Engines: JT9D-7J
1st Flight: 28-04-71
1st Delivery: 07-05-71 (AZ)
Reg: 5N-EEE
Operator: Kabo Air
IATA code: N2
Status: Derelict at KAN
Last update: 16-Dec-2005

Type: B.747-287B
Serial: 21189/274
Engines: JT9D-7J
1st Flight: 11-11-75
1st Delivery: 16-12-76 (AR)
Reg: 5N-NNN
Operator: Kabo Air
IATA code: N2
Status: Stored
Last update: 20-Jan-2006

Type: B.747-238B
Serial: 20842/238
Engines: JT9D-7J
1st Flight: 13-05-74
1st Delivery: 24-05-74 (QF)
Reg: 5N-PDP
Operator: Kabo Air
IATA code: N2
Status: Active
Last update: 15-Jun-2006

Type: B.747-238B
Serial: 20921/241
Engines: JT9D-7J
1st Flight: 28-06-74
1st Delivery: 10-10-74 (QF)
Reg: 5N-PPP
Operator: Kabo Air
IATA code: N2
Status: Derelict at KAN
Last update: 16-Dec-2005

Source: www.aerotransport.org

So basically, Kabo have just one 747 still flying (5N-PDP), and as far as surviving 747s go, she is not the oldest in the world. That honour apparently falls to:

Type: B.747-238B
Serial: 20009/147
Engines: JT9D-7F
1st Flight: 08-07-71
1st Delivery: 30-07-71 (QF)
Reg: 3D-NED
Operator: Northeast AL
Status: Active
Remarks: 71,415 hours, 16,108 cycles
Last update: 12-Jun-2005


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However, for those of you who are, as I am, not convinced that this bird is still flying, the oldest would have to be this one:

Type: B.747-246B
Serial: 20530/196
Engines: JT9D-7AW
1st Flight: 23-08-72
1st Delivery: 03-11-72 (JL)
Reg: HS-UTP
Operator: Orient Thai AL
IATA code: OX
Status: Active
Last update: 14-Aug-2005


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Orient Thai is also the operator of the last basic B747-100 in passenger service, 1975-build HS-UTD:


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Saludos,

ZXV



How do you say "12 months" in Estonian?
User currently offlineFly2CHC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 29322 times:

What about the Saudia B747s?

User currently offlineTitch From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 329 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 29275 times:

Quoting Fly2CHC (Reply 12):
What about the Saudia B747s?

The oldest 747 that Saudi Arabian operates is HZ-AIB (c/n 22499), delivered on April 2nd 1981.

Quite a bit younger than some of the other machines out there.

Cheers,
Titch



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User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 36
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 29236 times:

Quoting Fly2CHC (Reply 12):
What about the Saudia B747s?

They are of the younger -100B model of '80s-build, an "afterthought" of the 747-100 if you like.  Wink

Best regards,

ZXV



How do you say "12 months" in Estonian?
User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 29215 times:

Quoting Fly2CHC (Reply 12):
What about the Saudia B747s?

Don't forget that SV B747-100s are -100B which were all delivered in 1981/82, and followed some years later by a batch of B747-368.


User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7816 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 28915 times:

If you read this, I think that they are referring to our birds.

Sleeping at Kano clearly nor recommended.


http://www.sleepinginairports.net/africa/kano.htm


User currently offlineLVTMB From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 393 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 28724 times:

Quoting LVZXV (Reply 11):
Type: B.747-287B
Serial: 21189/274
Engines: JT9D-7J
1st Flight: 11-11-75
1st Delivery: 16-12-76 (AR)
Reg: 5N-NNN
Operator: Kabo Air
IATA code: N2
Status: Stored
Last update: 20-Jan-2006

LVZXV, slightly off-topic but speaking of old 747s, I believe that, although this ship was originally built for AR (-87), it was never taken up (i.e., not delivered to AR). I believe that after changing hands several times, it became VS' first ship. On the other hand, AR got its first 742s in 1978, as I recall. Is this your understanding as well?

MB


User currently offlineBA747YYZ From Canada, joined Mar 2006, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 28693 times:

In terms of a major commercial airline KLM still operates at least one 747-200.

User currently offlineKL5147 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 338 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 28381 times:

Quoting BA747YYZ (Reply 18):
In terms of a major commercial airline KLM still operates at least one 747-200

I am very curious to know which a/c it is then



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User currently offlineKLMNW From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 28139 times:

Quoting KL5147 (Reply 19):
I am very curious to know which a/c it is then

Same here  Wink


User currently offlinePHKRS From Netherlands, joined Nov 2004, 45 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 27759 times:

Quote:
In terms of a major commercial airline KLM still operates at least one 747-200

KLM doesn't fly any B742 anymore as their last B742 (PH-BUK) is on display at Aviodrome Lelystad
MP still operates B742F;
So I think you mean AF still flies B742 ?

[Edited 2006-07-06 23:11:34]

User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 27614 times:

Quoting BA747YYZ (Reply 18):
In terms of a major commercial airline KLM still operates at least one 747-200.

This was KLM's last 742:
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Out of service in 2003...



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User currently offlineStarGuy From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 27614 times:

Just looking at those old birds terrifies me. I would never get on one as I scared of old 747s. I would be paranoid that there would be an inflight break up. I don't know why I link the two but I do.

User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7816 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 27342 times:

B18255 and JA8119 both broke up.

However the common factor seems to have been inadequate repairs in both cases.

see reports in www.aviation-safety.net


25 N867BX : Does anyone know who has the oldest 747F? Kallitta perhaps?
26 777STL : UPS would certainly be up there, their oldest active bird was #57 off the line in 1970. Though it did start life as a pax bird, it's a freighter now.
27 Post contains links and images PipoA380 : View Large View MediumPhoto © Tommy Desmet Here's an old bird too, delivered in July 1973 c/n 20682/202
28 YULYMX : Was thinking about Air force one Anyone got the date of those 2 birds?
29 Post contains images PipoA380 : Only one but: Reg: 92-9000 Boeing 747-2G4B (VC-25A) USAF United States Air Force Delivery date: 20.12.1990 Not that old
30 Post contains images Tiger119 : - It was right before Bill Clinton took office as president. - When did Boeing quit making the 747-SPs and 747-SRs? Are there any still flying and wh
31 Post contains links and images PipoA380 : Yes, Saudi Arabian government still flies 2, and some Governments mostly in the middle-east fly them too (Oman, Yemen, Qatar, Bahrein...) Syrian Arab
32 JFK69 : How old is that LY 742 that was passenger but recently turned into freighter service?
33 AA777223 : Does that mean there are no more 741s still in service? Too bad!
34 777STL : Pax service, maybe not. There are 741 freighters out there, again, UPS for instance, they have some of the oldest active 741s out there right now.
35 Post contains images LVZXV : This ship was in fact delivered new to its intended customer as LV-LZD on 16-12-76, flying her inaugural service on 06-01-77 (note how its 1st flight
36 TheSonntag : There is still one 747-100 of Iran Air in service... It was in CGN last year and might come again this year...
37 Post contains links and images AMSSFO : Iranian Airforce does have several very old 741. Don't know whether they currently are all active. View Large View MediumPhoto © Frank de koster
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