Thegooddoctor From United States, joined Nov 2005, 489 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7616 times:
What a rediculous suggestion! Man, where is your sense. If Mr. Travolta is allowed to purchase a 757, then that is another 757 off the market that could be purchased by an airline who could put it to good use - like US Airways? Continental?
Besides, I think there was a deal in the works by which Mr. Travolta was going to purchase the entire fleet of NW DC-9s - that way he can fly a new plane every day...
DIA From United States, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 42 Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7577 times:
Would you trade in a classic GTO for one of those new plain vanilla GTOs? No way...insane.
(*I say this with the understanding that this is the last year Pontiac will offer the current GTO. They plan on revamping the GTO nameplate again with a more retro-styled one in a couple of years...smart move...which speaks accolades to my point above)
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Bmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1756 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7539 times:
OK...Well then how much does it cost per hour to operate a 40 year 707 with $75 crude?
Quoting Thegooddoctor (Reply 3): If Mr. Travolta is allowed to purchase a 757, then that is another 757 off the market that could be purchased by an airline who could put it to good use - like US Airways? Continental?
I just heard a 757 from NWA is being scrapped!!! If they're scrapping 757s, the demand for them must be quite low....
[Edited 2006-07-07 17:19:08]
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Thegooddoctor From United States, joined Nov 2005, 489 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7503 times:
Quoting Bmacleod (Reply 6): I just heard a 757 from NWA is being scrapped!!! If they're scrapping 757s, the demand for them must be quite low....
I have no idea why this would be the case when NW is expanding across the Atlantic with their (already short) 757 fleet, but I will say that airlines scrap INDIVIDUAL aircraft for reasons other than fleet needs. I'm willing to bet this is some other issue with this particular aircraft.
APFPilot1985 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7437 times:
Quoting DIA (Reply 5): Would you trade in a classic GTO for one of those new plain vanilla GTOs? No way...insane.
Whoa whoa, easy on my car, the looks may not appeal to you, but she can rip up just about anything on the road and anything under 30,000 stock.
On the issue of the 707, I know many people who have worked with him or fueled his aircraft and he loves the bird like a third child so he won't be getting rid of jett clipper ella anytime soon./
DIA From United States, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 42 Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7385 times:
Quoting APFPilot1985 (Reply 12): Whoa whoa, easy on my car, the looks may not appeal to you, but she can rip up just about anything on the road and anything under 30,000 stock.
Hah! Didn't mean to step on your toes there. I bet you didn't trade in an old Goat in mint condition to get the new version, though...
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BHXDTW From French Polynesia, joined Feb 2005, 1046 posts, RR: 9 Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7357 times:
Dude....
If you owned a beautiful vintage ferrari in maranello red with beautiful cream leather seats and a lovely V8 under the hood and were able to afford to run it and insure it and replace worn parts on it.. would you sell it because a new Ford would save you a bit of cash each month on your fuel bill ??
hmmmm.....
Chances are if he can afford a 707 period... then he can afford the fuel.
If he can afford to park it at MIA or it the house he owns with a Gulfstream next to it.. he can afford the fuel...
and besides..use your noodle... the guys has a 707 AND A GULFSTREAM....
The gulfstream is an everyday biz jet, The 707 is a piece of history... he owns a piece of aviation history.. hell, If I had the money Id buy a DC6 or a Connie... or even a damn Shorts360 !!
drop the 707 for a 757 ?... when AA buys a fleet of A380's and VS codeshares with BA ... that'l be the day..
Good topic tho...
Joe
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DrExotica From United States, joined Aug 2004, 172 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7300 times:
Quoting DIA (Reply 5): Would you trade in a classic GTO for one of those new plain vanilla GTOs? No way...insane.
Completely agreed. The 707 is one of the best, if not _the_ best looking airliners ever. My only nit with his 707 is the Qantas livery - Pan Am would look better...
RayChuang From United States, joined Jun 2000, 7112 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7225 times:
John Travolta will NOT part with that 707-138B. It's a very unique and historic plane and I'm sure he realizes the value of keeping it. When that plane is finally retired expect Travolta to donate it to a museum in no time flat.
Bennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 4573 posts, RR: 2 Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7180 times:
According to the Buchair book about the B707, this aircraft was offered for sale in 1996. At that point it had 27,862 Hrs on the clock. Mr Travolota bought it on 20/5/1998.
If he has flown it for 1,000 Hrs/PA (unlikely) it is still under 36,000 Hrs. I do not see it retiring anytime soon.
Clearly the key issues are parts and crew. However whilst not as common as they were 20 years ago, I expect that there is sufficient to operate this bird.
Lufthansi From Germany, joined May 2002, 401 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7036 times:
Oh man! What a thought. If you would own an old Rolly Royce Phantom would you sell it becaue of it's thurst for gas? I don't think so. I'm glad that John is offering this unique chance to see a passenger 707 still flying. He's the only one doing it next to an Iran based airline or so.
John is not only owning a 707 but also supposed to have a Gulfstream. So if he wants to travel fast and efficient he takes this one. It's not his business plane but a hobby to preserve it. And btw: Qantas is paying him for his advertisement I think. He got a 747 licence at Qantas and is supposed to be interested in bying a 747 as well. Maybe he will change his 707 with an (hopefully old!) 747? But that's just a guess and I'd be sad if he isn't interested anymore in his 707 one day.
BlueFlyer From United States, joined Jan 2006, 1156 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6931 times:
Quoting Bmacleod (Thread starter): With crude currently at $75 and still climbing, the fuel bill for John Travolta's Qantas 707 must be huge!!!!
If Travolta had financial concerns, he wouldn't be operating a 707 and a Gulfstream and his very own family-and-employees-only Starbucks and be on the market for yet another bizjet. He'd do what D-list stars do, sign up for a Marquis Card from NetJet.
How could an aviation 'enthusiast' even think such a thing?!
I think the 707 is a great aircraft....after all it ushered in the jet age, right? I was even a fan of the DC-9s when AC had them in airline service...
I'm only raising the issue of fuel costs as it continues to skyrocket though with Travolta's huge salary it's probably not an issue for him.
The engine is the heart of an airplane, but the pilot is its soul.
YYZ757FAN From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 86 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (3 years 5 months 1 day ago) and read 6789 times:
If anything I think JT should dump his old G-II, which is a gas guzzler, and trade it in on a New G-IV or even a G-V. If he puts a lot of hours on the Gulfstream that would make more sense than giving up his clasic 707.
Now if he really wanted to upgrade the G-II he should move up to a Global Express!!
26 USAFHummer: According to an interview with him that I read in Reader's Digest a year or two back, he aims to fly both his 707 and G-II 200 hours per year each...
27 Swissy: JT has enough resources (bling bling) to off set the fuel cost, remember why are rich people getting richer and we are poorer.............. money is n
28 DeltaDC9: The problem there is that he ordered oversized RR engines because he wanted more reserve power, so his is not "stock" and going by that any other pla
29 GuyBetsy1: I believe the 707 he bought was originally owned by QF and hence it is painted in the original QF V-Jet livery, and yes QF sponsors the aircraft part
30 PolymerPlane: You have to remember that fuel is not the only cost associated with flying an aircraft. One of the biggest bills is the cost of ownership. Particular
31 ZKNSJ: i reckon he should have picked up one of the qantas 747sp's when they were retired
32 Bennett123: Is it now too late for him to do so..
33 MD80fanatic: The man could probably afford to buy a retired Concorde, fix it up, fly it to Florida and park it next to his 707 and Gulfstream....and still have eno
34 747400sp: Heck NO !!!! A 707 is a classic and his 707 is a rear kind. It is one of the few Shorten 707 138 that Qantas order. I do not a man as rich as John Tra
35 USADreamliner: And painted in the colors of what? Eastern? LOL USADreamliner
36 COERJ145: If I had the money, i'd buy a DC-9-10 over the 707. Long live the baby Nines!!! http://www.myaviation.net/search/photo_search.php?id=00024637[Edited 2
37 AndrewUber: If he buys another big jet - it will definately be a 747. He is typerated in the 747 now, and I'm sure he's got his eyes on one somewhere. I hope he
38 Hiflyer: Wasn't JT quoted as interested in a SP awhile back? Have not heard any more out of that. Also believe one of his loves with both the GII as well as th
39 CaptainJon: if i had the money i'd just buy a 787 bc i like to have a brand spankin new aircraft. now providing i did have the money to do so, say i won the power
40 WesternA318: Or finding one of the original TWA BabySP's and restoring ti with the twin stripes ahh...*pipe dream* Philip Stevens would have NOTHING on JT!
41 USAFHummer: Sorry, my fault, I phrased my post horribly...200 hours on the 707 and 200 hours on the G-II...not 100 on each... Greg
42 Stormbringer: Maybe we'll be seeing a fuel surcharge on Travolta films soon.
43 APFPilot1985: That is completely false, they don't pay him anything for that. However he did do an endorsement deal with them.
44 N1120A: You are kidding right? Actually, 707s are quite cheap compared to a lot of far more efficient jets. JT can, however, definately afford the fuel given
46 ComairGuyCVG: He should get a 757 and paint it in full blown Piedmont colors.
47 KiwiTEAL: Rumour has it he was very interested at the time. Trouble was that Qantas was asking too much for them. A damn shame considering the pristine conditi
48 Andz: There is a nice SP standing in the midfield area at JNB if he wants one!
49 Phuebner: UMMMM, who really cares about what John Travolta does?
50 KiwiTEAL: At least he has the money and enthusiasm to preserve a classic aircraft! - while we all "wish" we could, and then others bemoan the fact. Plus his al
51 Columba: Seriously are you drunk ? The reason why he has the 707 is because it is a classic. He has an arrangement with Qantas that he makes PR for them and Q
52 VirginFlyer: Camel was the NATO codename for the Tupolev Tu-104. Not really. The Camel and Comet did. Don't forget the Avro Jetliner - not as successful as the Co
53 KiwiTEAL: There was talk of Qantas wanting to aquire one of their former aircraft (707) for some sort of museum. But I hope its never JT's plane, as I think th
54 M404: Definetly. and everyone else should dump their Hummers, Suburbans ect for hybrid buses. I am kidding aren't I?
55 KiwiTEAL: Haa haa....... I hope so John KiwiTEAL
56 Bennett123: I think that Qantas are thinking about HZ123 at Southend.
57 Gary2880: nevar! hang your head in shame. at least not until he has flown over to Aberdeen to sit on the east apron next to VP-BDJ so i can get a photo of them
59 UPSMD11: Speaking of John Travolta and the 707, on Flightaware it hasn't been flying much at all lately. The last flight was 17FL - KMIA (Greystone to Miami) o
60 ShowerOfSparks: Ahhh jealousy rears it's ugly head. Mr Travolta like many people who frequent this forum is an aviation enthusiast. When the 707 lands somewhere he'l
61 Sonic67: I guess if that was concern he could upgraded the engines to CFM56 engines such as the KC-135R that would improve fuel efficiency by 27%. Being a avi
62 ShowerOfSparks: He could buy an awful lot of fuel for the money it would cost to get such a conversion certified.
63 Egmcman: Yes and it now has an Australian Registration and being worked on by ATC Lasham.
65 Warreng24: If an exception from the Stage IV noise requirements can't be met, Captain Travolta may need to consider a re-engine to CFM-56's or a trade in at the
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