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SWA Mechanic Steals From NWA Aircraft @ MDW  
User currently offlineAirfinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 667 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9962 times:

What a way to start your first day on the job:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...ll=chi-news-hed&ctrack=1&cset=true

In a nutshell, the mechanic was on his first day at SWA, entered a NWA aircraft, stole a "medical bag" and was detained by NWA, then arrested by Chicago Police. He was obviously fired by Southwest.


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User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9894 times:

Your link does not work...


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineAmerican777 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9813 times:

Quoting Airfinair (Thread starter):



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 1):
Your link does not work...

Here is the real link to the website:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/c...waytheft,1,2030791.story?track=rss

Cheers.

JOE.  Smile


User currently offlineAirfinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 667 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9767 times:

Thanks, Joe! (Not sure what the problem was, they both work on my end.)


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User currently offlineAirCop From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9747 times:

So much for that career. Does anyone think he will actually do jail/prison time? One final question, if it was his first day, where the heck was his supervisor?

User currently offlineReyes27 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9747 times:

What kind of value does a medical bag have?

User currently offlineSwissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9692 times:

Quoting Reyes27 (Reply 5):
What kind of value does a medical bag have?

It is not much but he breached the security of that ac and removed a item which SWA did not own....................

Cheers,


User currently offlineChicagoOhare From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9669 times:

From the article:

Burglary of an aircraft, a class 2 felony, carries a possible prison term of 3 to 7 years.

jhilkevitch@tribune.com



I was just thinking:

if burglary gives 3 to 7 years, imagine what Grand Theft Airplane would give.


User currently offlineReyes27 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9669 times:

Quoting Swissy (Reply 6):
It is not much but he breached the security of that ac and removed a item which SWA did not own....................

I am not implying that he does not deserve to be sacked and arrested, but I have no idea whats in a medical bag besides what was described in the article and secondly I have no idea the value of the bag and its contents. I was more curious of the motivation of stealing of the bags and why there needed to be a sting operation becuase of the thefts.


User currently offlineN8076U From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 425 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9637 times:

Imagine if he didn't get caught, what he might have tried to take the next time. Glad that got nipped in the bud the first day out.

Chris



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7703 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9606 times:

NWA SWA he got confused.

User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 9589 times:

He may have been a drug seeker.

If he was going for the equipment, the contents aren't worth much unless NWA keeps their AED's in those bags.

Mark


User currently offlineBurnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7557 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9117 times:

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 10):
NWA SWA he got confused.

Its not that hard to identify the worlds ugliest 737's compared to a DC-9 or possibly 757.

It would be nice if they could expand this, I take it all the jetways at MDW have the same code, secondly it must have been at night, because chances are otherwise someone is always on the plane.

If this was his first day on the job, and he stole it, but it had been going on for a while, it makes you wonder if its a WN maint crew thing there. Just some bad folks within an airline.



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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9117 times:

Quoting Reyes27 (Reply 8):
I am not implying that he does not deserve to be sacked and arrested, but I have no idea whats in a medical bag besides what was described in the article and secondly I have no idea the value of the bag and its contents.

The FARs require two different types of medical kits... not sure what he was accused of stealing, but Appendix A to Part 121 of Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations (14 CFR 121) includes the specific requirements for US carriers:

For 0-50 seats, one kit is required, 51-150 two kits are required, 151-250 requires three, and more than 250 requries 4 kits.

That kit must include, at a minimum:
16 Adhesive bandage compresses, 1-inch
20 Antiseptic swabs
10 Ammonia inhalants
8 Bandage compresses, 4-inch
5 Triangular bandage compresses, 40-inch
1 Arm splint, noninflatable
1 Leg splint, noninflatable
4 Roller bandage, 4-inch
2 Adhesive tape, 1-inch standard roll
1 Bandage scissors

Also, at least one approved medical kit must be on board that includes, at a minimum:
1 Sphygmonanometer
1 Stethoscope
3 Airways, oropharyngeal (3 sizes): 1 pediatric, 1 small adult, 1 large adult or equivalent.
Self-inflating manual resuscitation device with 3 masks (1 pediatric, 1 small adult, 1 large adult or equivalent).
CPR mask (3 sizes), 1 pediatric, 1 small adult, 1 large adult, or equivalent.
1 IV Admin Set: Tubing w/ 2 Y connectors
2 Alcohol sponges
1 Adhesive tape, 1-inch standard roll adhesive.
1 pair Tape scissors
1 Tourniquet
1 Saline solution, 500 cc
1 pair Protective nonpermeable gloves or equivalent
6 Needles (2-18 ga., 2-20 ga., 2-22 ga., or sizes necessary to administer required medications).
4 Syringes (1-5 cc, 2-10 cc, or sizes necessary to administer required medications).
4 Analgesic, non-narcotic, tablets, 325 mg
4 Antihistamine tablets, 25 mg
2 Antihistamine injectable, 50 mg, (single dose ampule or equivalent).
2 Atropine, 0.5 mg, 5 cc (single dose ampule or equivalent).
4 Aspirin tablets, 325 mg
1 Bronchodilator, inhaled (metered dose inhaler or equivalent).
1 Dextrose, 50%/50 cc injectable, (single dose ampule or equivalent).
2 Epinephrine 1:1000, 1 cc, injectable, (single dose ampule or equivalent).
2 Epinephrine 1:10,000, 2 cc, injectable, (single dose ampule or equivalent).
2 Lidocaine, 5 cc, 20 mg/ml, injectable (single dose ampule or equivalent).
10 Nitroglycerin tablets, 0.4 mg
1 Basic instructions for use of the drugs in the kit.

Finally, "At least one approved automated external defibrillator, legally marketed in the United States in accordance with Food and Drug Administration requirements" must be stored in the passenger cabin.

I find it interesting that it was his first day on the job with SWA, but there had been a "recent rash of thefts"... Was it him as well? How did he get access to the aircrafy? If it wasn't him, how big a business is this?

Lincoln



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User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5512 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9103 times:

Quoting Lincoln (Reply 13):
I find it interesting that it was his first day on the job with SWA, but there had been a "recent rash of thefts"..

Does it sound like an organization at work to you, too?



I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offline777fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 2505 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8949 times:

Medical bags?! Is this really a trend?! Maybe they're really talking about barf bags. Better yet, maybe he was there to grab some peanut bags. Can't wait for someone to imply that he really works for Ted and that it's only a matter of time before UA and CO merge! LMAO!

777fan



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User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1519 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8736 times:

Quoting Bennett123 (Reply 10):
NWA SWA he got confused.

Or maybe he mistook NW for WN...



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User currently offlineUnited319 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 527 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 8662 times:
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Figures, thats all I can say. If WN is already bumming equipment from an airline that is down in the dumps, imagine what theyll do when their hedging contract is up...  Wink


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User currently offlineCetaceanJet From United States of America, joined May 2006, 11 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8636 times:

My gut tells me there are going to be more ripple effects from this arrest. A total noob doesn't just go steal stuff from a rival company's a/c on his own initiative, does he?

User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13148 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 8481 times:

Seems like the airline and the airport authority didn't check out this guy very well before they hired him, or he had some ability to BS his way in. In the post-9/11 world, pre-employment security checks by airports and airlines should be and are often quite through. One also has to wonder about the security at the airside as well. I would suggest that this person probably had a serious financial (gambling, credit card debts?) or a drug problem that should have been picked up in the pre-employment checks.
Stealing something that could ground an aircraft, lead to a substantual fine or mean that someone could die if an emergency came up is a serious crime and if the proof and conviction, this idiot gets a nice long stay in a prison.


User currently offlineGEG2RAP From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 7407 times:

throw this out there but maybe an old NWA mechanic with an axe to grind?
can't think of any other rational explination


User currently offlineNwab787techops From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6393 times:

This isn't new. The bags have been found opened for some time. I think there are more people out there doing this, as well as removing oil caps form A/C ENGs.
I hope this terrorist and the others out there get prison time ,thats lives on that A/C.


User currently offlineNwab787techops From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 219 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6338 times:

Quoting GEG2RAP (Reply 20):
throw this out there but maybe an old NWA mechanic with an axe to grind?
can't think of any other rational explination

OLD NWA MX= AMFA
SWA MX= AMFA


User currently offlineABQopsHP From United States of America, joined May 2006, 855 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5805 times:

Airlines borrow, items and parts from each other all the time. However you dont simply go over there and make like your at a Target store, and take what you want. I used to be responsible for the EMKs and PBEs, plus some other cabin items. If we had a diversion come in and needed to replenish or replace an item, if it was not in stock I would call WN or whoever, and they would help out. A mechanic had to sign off, before the flight left though. I have seen many a seat belt that didnt match the interior of the airline I was on, but knew that it came from a competitor.  Wink


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User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5653 times:

Right now since SWA AMT's are one of the few that have not experienced layoffs and big pay cuts positions there are much coveted. It's hard to believe that this guy would be that stupid as to risk a promising career over a medical bag. Or maybe it's not so hard to believe. Curious as to where he worked before.

25 WildcatYXU : Dude, you should reduce time you watch CNN... This is a terrorist? Wake up or you will really contribute to turning the beautiful country of yours in
26 LMP737 : So the fact that he stole from another airline makes him a "terrorist"? That's a bit of a stretch don't you think?
27 OPNLguy : Before this thread goes off-topic, can we drop the terrorism discussion? The guy stole something, he got caught, he got fired.
28 LMP737 : Before you can take a job as an AMT at airline you have to take a drug test. If the guy did have a drug problem it would have been caught. My guess t
29 Nwab787techops : This Guys took this becouse he dosn't like NWA and the way they are doing Business. Knowing, this is life saving equment, and hoping NWA would fly wi
30 LMP737 : And you know this to be a fact becasue? Did this individual make a statement that the reason he did this is becasue he had it in for NWA? Maybe the r
31 Post contains images HPRamper : That explains it, since you sound just like their reporters
32 Continental : Aha, perfect!
33 LMP737 : Let's say for the sake of argument you have some sort of insider info and you know that he "thinks this way". Does that make him a terrorist? Like I
34 AirRyan : Certainly sounds like there is more to the story but WN is now the privy to the highest paid AMFA mechs after NW canned all of theirs, so I'd definate
35 Thegooddoctor : I noticed some posted theories that this person was a drug-seeker, which is very plausable. Unfortunately, he's not a very smart drug-seeker, since n
36 HPRamper : What I find strange about this incident is that it was a "sting" which implies NWA and the police had been planning this for a while, but the guy who
37 Burnsie28 : Unlikely, since he wasnt the only one. The article reported that the stealing had been going on for some time, meaning their are others that were ste
38 Laxintl : I'm sorry, but how do you feel the system should have caught this person during pre-employement checks? As long as you are legal to work in the count
39 B737Mech : Just a little insight to this issue. He was a former ATA mechanic at Midway that just went over to SWA. They say that it has been going on for awhile
40 Ramprat74 : My mother was flying DEN-ONT on Ted. Her flight was delayed because someone stole stuff from the medical kit. They had to search the whole plane to ma
41 Post contains images Nonfirm : He choose poorly.What a great shot this guy blew but if he had a drug problem it is a good place to get some free drugs or they must get alot of money
42 LTBEWR : My brother works for a large paving contractor that has done work on the airside of EWR, and he had to be checked out to see if he was eligable to wo
43 Thegooddoctor : Again - I don't believe there are any "good drugs" in these kits... there'd be very little reason to keep narcotics on board (no one needs to correct
44 HPRamper : Exactly my point...and it just happened to be the new guy? Obviously if the investigation had been ongoing, this guy wouldn't have been the culprit f
45 Lincoln : An earlier poster mentioned that the mechanic has worked at MDW for quite some time -- he had just come to SWA from ATA on the day he was arrested. M
46 B737Mech : Quoting HPRamper (Reply 44): Exactly my point...and it just happened to be the new guy? Obviously if the investigation had been ongoing, this guy woul
47 Jeb94 : These bags are not as cheap as you all are making them sound, especially if they're the Enhanced Emergency Medical Kits (EEMK). These things cost arou
48 Thegooddoctor : Insulin and Morphine are both exceedingly cheap - Morphine is well less than a dollar a milligram and insulin is less than ten cents a unit. What wou
49 Flinhion757 : For a minute there I thought ya meant like an engine part or something. I know NWA flies 757s into MDW frequently. That was an accedent waitin to happ
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