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Any Updates On The New Air NZ Colours?  
User currently offlineKiwiTEAL From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 253 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7742 times:

Any updates on the new ANZ colours?

John
KiwiTEAL

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User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2249 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7716 times:
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Something should be released soon I am told. Can't say anymore than that at the moment sorry.

NZ1


User currently offlineCX flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6587 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 7662 times:

This has been the longest lead up in history to something which does not sound like a major breakthrough. I see a major anticlimax coming.

User currently offlineNzrich From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 1521 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 7641 times:

All i can say is the wait had better be worth it!!!!!
I do hope the Maori designer put lots of korus on the fuselage like they have behind the check in desks that looks really good



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User currently offlineZkpilot From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 4805 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7600 times:

Quoting CX flyboy (Reply 2):
This has been the longest lead up in history to something which does not sound like a major breakthrough. I see a major anticlimax coming.

yes it has been, I sure hope it won't be.

Quoting Nzrich (Reply 4):
puts lots of korus on the fuselage like they have behind the check in desks ,that looks really good..

yes me too... unfortuneatly the rollout of the scheme behind the desks etc is not going very fast... the service desk at AKL, the intl transfer desk at AKL for example.

I understand that the lounge "bach" upgrades are progressing nicely and they should all be completed in a reasonable time frame.


As a side thought... I think it would be really awesome if NZ's entire intl fleet were named after cities/provinces. Currently it is only the 744's and it is a small sticker with a unrecognisable picture and tiny writing. The writing needs to be the size (about 3 times larger) that QF uses for its intl aircraft.



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User currently offlinePulkovokiwi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7589 times:

Does the left hand know what the right hand is doing at NZ? This is such a non event.

User currently offlineNZ8800 From New Zealand, joined May 2006, 425 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7479 times:

It would be good if they have those extra koru designs going up the fuselage. And I wish they would start naming their aircraft again properly. NAC had all the Friendships with bird names like Kahu, Koweka, Kotare, Karuwai... TEAL named their Electras Aotearoa, Akaroa and Atarau...
Apart from the Pathetic Wave I rather like the current livery though - I'm almost hoping they don't change it!



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User currently offline777ER From New Zealand, joined Dec 2003, 12082 posts, RR: 18
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 7380 times:
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Any word yet on what aircraft will get the honours?

User currently offlineSkyhigh From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 235 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 7347 times:

Quoting NZ8800 (Reply 6):
Apart from the Pathetic Wave I rather like the current livery though - I'm almost hoping they don't change it!

Without the "pathetic wave", you have an all white plane with just Air New Zealand written on it. Sure the tail is nice but it doesn't make up for boring white fuselage, not even the engines are painted!

Just another unimaginative eurowhite to add to the ever growing list!!

Hopefully the new look will break free from the current trend and add a splash of colour somewhere. There are so many unique NZ designs that could be used.

Sadly I am not holding my breath for anything too spectacular.


User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7086 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7315 times:

Hope its as good as its made out to be. I first thought it was a minoir change, but now it sounds a little more than minor

User currently offlineKiwiTEAL From Australia, joined Nov 2005, 253 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7301 times:

I just hope to god that its not too "maori"...... I have all respect and affilliation with our native New Zealanders, but I do doubt the concepts of the "designer set", who tend to run with trends that at times are simply "over the top".

I will always like the clean and distinguished Air NZ colours of the 70's and 80's. It made the airline look GOOD around the world - albeit being one of the smaller international carriers. In those days it signified "pride"....... now its plain old white (low maintenance) with a presentable tail fin, and a wiggly line down each side...... typical designer trendies stuff.

Lets see what goes down ?

John
KiwiTEAL


User currently offline767ER From Australia, joined Apr 2001, 1092 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7283 times:

This must be the most drawn out airline livery release known to man kind. I hope the wait will be worth it!

I wonder how soon is soon!



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User currently offlineFinal47 From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 7240 times:

any ideas what it will look like? like a piture?

User currently offlineNZ1 From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 2249 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 7133 times:
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Can't post a picture yet. Just be patient.

NZ1


User currently offlineNZ747 From New Zealand, joined Dec 2004, 967 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 7033 times:

Quoting KiwiTEAL (Reply 10):
I just hope to god that its not too "maori"...... I have all respect and affilliation with our native New Zealanders, but I do doubt the concepts of the "designer set", who tend to run with trends that at times are simply "over the top".

I couldn't agree more. New Zealand has many cultures, not just the one that seems to be taking over everything at Air NZ lately. As you say, a bit over the top.

NZ747


User currently offlinePulkovokiwi From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 6996 times:

We have been hearing "it's just around the corner" for the last three months.

User currently offlineNZ8800 From New Zealand, joined May 2006, 425 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 6966 times:

Maybe they were going to release it - then thought, no, want to modify the design. It happens...


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User currently offlineNzstevenc From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2005, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6736 times:

Quoting KiwiTEAL (Reply 10):
I just hope to god that its not too "maori"...... I have all respect and affilliation with our native New Zealanders, but I do doubt the concepts of the "designer set", who tend to run with trends that at times are simply "over the top".



Quoting NZ747 (Reply 14):
I couldn't agree more. New Zealand has many cultures, not just the one that seems to be taking over everything at Air NZ lately. As you say, a bit over the top.

Groan...

There are plenty of things a livery can represent other than culture.

The green landscape, the ferns, greenstone, sea, etc, have been there a lot longer than the Maori.

And as far as I know, the Europeans have not produced any unique way of representing these, in the same way the Maori represent ferns as koru, etc. Given this style is unique to New Zealand and shows off a number of the beautiful aspects of our country (inculding the landscape, fauna AND culture) , I wouldn't have anything else on the tail of our national carrier.

New Zealanders, especially ex-pats, would go into shock if we lost this styling from our aircraft. I'm always proud to see a NZ bird in LHR or any other world airport, or even in AKL or at home in NPL.


User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7086 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 6664 times:

Quoting Nzstevenc (Reply 17):
Zealanders, especially ex-pats, would go into shock if we lost this styling from our aircraft. I'm always proud to see a NZ bird in LHR or any other world airport, or even in AKL or at home in NPL.

I could not agree more. The current tail (the koru) is an International trademark or symbol to NZ. It is as significant as the 'kris' is to SQ and the wavy arrow/spear thingy is to TG


User currently offlineAerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2683 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 6602 times:

Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 18):
The current tail (the koru) is an International trademark or symbol to NZ. It is as significant as the 'kris' is to SQ and the wavy arrow/spear thingy is to TG

I think, like MH, the Thai logo is a kite of some kind.

Quoting 767ER (Reply 11):
This must be the most drawn out airline livery release known to man kind. I hope the wait will be worth it!

Actually, I think the Thai colour change was pretty drawn out and then there was the apparent shambles of MH a few years back. I suspect the delays have more to do with the political situaiton - hard to splash out on something extravagant like a livery change when you're crying poor. Though perhaps there were also complications with the new design.


User currently offlineNZFan From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 75 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 6580 times:

Quoting Aerokiwi (Reply 19):
Quoting ZKSUJ (Reply 18):
The current tail (the koru) is an International trademark or symbol to NZ. It is as significant as the 'kris' is to SQ and the wavy arrow/spear thingy is to TG

I think, like MH, the Thai logo is a kite of some kind.

I thought TG logo was was 70s representation of an orchid or something


User currently offlineNZ747 From New Zealand, joined Dec 2004, 967 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6551 times:

Quoting NZFan (Reply 20):
I thought TG logo was was 70s representation of an orchid or something

If you rotate the Thai symbol 90 degrees clockwise, you will see a very common symbol/shape scheme used in Thailand. You may be right about it being an orchid. Also looks kind of like a Thai temple, or traditional Thai head wear thing?

Quoting Nzstevenc (Reply 17):
And as far as I know, the Europeans have not produced any unique way of representing these

Yeah, I guess you're right. Some Europeans do have a modernised lack of culture. I have no problem with the Maori symbols, and would never like to see the koru get replaced.

The New livery will look good with more 'New Zealand' symbolism like the Koru, but I hope it won't look too OTT.

My biggest concern is that Air NZ is going to get rid of the blue (represents the sea?), and only have green and white on the airframe. Even so, I'm sure we will all eventually grow to like it. Just like when the new uniform first came out I used to think it looked horrible. But now, I think it looks really good (except on the chubby Air NZ people...I'm sure some will know what i mean).

Oh well, I guess we'll just have to wait and see  Smile

NZ747


User currently offlineKiwiflyer791 From New Zealand, joined Oct 2005, 128 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6508 times:

To be honest I can't beleve they are still bothering with this. Rumour isthe airline is about to park up 747s due to poor loadings and returns so spending money on pots of paint seems rather stupid at the moment

User currently offlineNZFan From New Zealand, joined Mar 2006, 75 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6493 times:

Quoting NZ747 (Reply 21):
My biggest concern is that Air NZ is going to get rid of the blue (represents the sea?), and only have green and white on the airframe. Even so, I'm sure we will all eventually grow to like it. Just like when the new uniform first came out I used to think it looked horrible. But now, I think it looks really good

I will have to agree with you on that one i do think that the uniforms are looking real good.


User currently offlineAerokiwi From New Zealand, joined Jul 2000, 2683 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 6472 times:

Quoting NZFan (Reply 20):
I thought TG logo was was 70s representation of an orchid or something

Actually, considering their marketing and so on (Royal Orchid etc), I think you are probaby correct.

Quoting Kiwiflyer791 (Reply 22):
To be honest I can't beleve they are still bothering with this. Rumour isthe airline is about to park up 747s due to poor loadings and returns so spending money on pots of paint seems rather stupid at the moment

I can't say I've heard this one, what are your sources? My understanding was that, if anything, the 747 fleet is stretched to the limit in terms of workload.


25 Kiwiflyer791 : Air NZ just announced they are pulling out of Singapore and replaceing NZ1 & NZ2 with 777s. Sad that yet another Asian Detination has disappeared off
26 Pulkovokiwi : SQ always hammered NZ on the AKL-SIN route so not totally surprised. Load factor was always low . Singaporeans are very loyal and much prefer SQ to NZ
27 Flyjetstar : Is that right? I'm sure they are not just going to leave them "parked up" until they bring them back on AKL-LAX-LHR in Dec/Jan. The press release als
28 Post contains images TG992 : Let me see.. Routes that would be impossible to operate with twin engine aircraft.. Routes to an area that will soon have a large gap in capacity due
29 Flyjetstar : Yeah thats what I thought too but then I remembered recent talk about this being two years or so away. But hey Fyfe is making this an interesting rid
30 NZ1 : Because once NZ1/2 changes back to 744 over Summer, and AKL-HKG-LHR starts, we will need the entire fleet. If anything, it takes the pressure of ANZE
31 Pulkovokiwi : Varig-who what where? NZ from Auckland to Frankfurt via Rio sounds good to me if its allowed.
32 Pilotdude09 : LOL South America would be a good market for NZ, i still believe that South Africa would be a good destination via Perth NZ could do extremley well o
33 ZK-NBT : I believe they are looking at rescheduling PER flights to connect with SAA's PER-JNB flight. I also heard that they are looking at retiming PER fligh
34 Post contains images Planemanofnz : Anything but. The only route the 747 will be flying year round will be AKL-MEL and AKL-HKG-LHR. Will it still be flying AKL-LAX? South America! As mu
35 ZK-NBT : I think he means now, well atleast I hope he does. Also AKL-BNE and yes i'd say they will have to stay on NZ5/6 to LAX, otherwise they will be short
36 Planemanofnz : Then could the SFO 777's be going to PER or on the NAN/APW-LAX flights?
37 ZK-NBT : I doubt it myself. AKL-LAX-LHR 3 aircraft AKL-KIX 1 aircraft AKL-NRT 1 aircraft AKL-PVG 0.5 aircraft initially Thats only 5.5 of 8 aircraft but obvio
38 VirginFlyer : Folks, perhaps you could start a new thread on what the 744s may or may not be doing, or discuss it in the thread about Singapore being dropped, becau
39 Post contains images Zkpilot : I have heard (but have yet to confirm for myself) that there is a 744 parked up in a hanger at AKL that has been repainted in the new scheme... and ha
40 ZK-NBT : I doubt it. ZK-NBS did a test flight yesterday in current colours and ZK-SUH was parked outside last Sunday, they can't paint a 744 that fast can the
41 NZ1 : ZK-NBT is right, NBS test flew yesterday, and ZK-SUH is still in current colours. To repaint a 744 properly takes up to 14 days depending on what is
42 Post contains images Kereru : Let me know when the news breaks I have camera at ready and can be at AKL to snap it in 15 minutes tops. Just kidding. I am sure it will be worth the
43 Post contains images ZKSUJ : Do you work in the cheese company? Hope its worth the wait
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