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AA Adds 777 MIA-LAX And Takes It Away!  
User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4447 posts, RR: 6
Posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9625 times:

With all the hoopla recently about AA adding a 777 MIA-LAX-MIA, and the reasons being given about how the route demanded a 3 class service, the plane was just sitting in MIA all day, etc., why has AA cancelled it after December 14, 2006?

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User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9594 times:

Quoting N62NA (Thread starter):
With all the hoopla recently about AA adding a 777 MIA-LAX-MIA, and the reasons being given about how the route demanded a 3 class service, the plane was just sitting in MIA all day, etc., why has AA cancelled it after December 14, 2006?

There are a lot of cities that demand 3 class service into LAX.

I would think that AA wants to send the aicraft else where, maybe apply for a new city in Asia?


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32699 posts, RR: 72
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 9411 times:

Quoting B752OS (Reply 1):
Quoting N62NA (Thread starter):
With all the hoopla recently about AA adding a 777 MIA-LAX-MIA, and the reasons being given about how the route demanded a 3 class service, the plane was just sitting in MIA all day, etc., why has AA cancelled it after December 14, 2006?

There are a lot of cities that demand 3 class service into LAX.

I would think that AA wants to send the aicraft else where, maybe apply for a new city in Asia?

It is not to add a new city in Asia.

American Airlines is adding a 7th daily non-stop on MIA-LAX the day after the 772 is pulled.

Not exactly sure why they are pulling it, but it was put on MIA-LAX for fleet usage maximization, not to offer 3-class service. American Airlines, however, decided to take advantage of the healthy premium demand on the route and offer 3-class service, rather than two class, like they usually do on domestic 777 routes.



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User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9289 times:

Just a question. When AA adds a 7th daily flight between MIA-LAX, which type of aircraft will it use?

User currently onlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 733 posts, RR: 15
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9274 times:

Is the 7th daily MIA-LAX going to be a permanent add or just for the winter?

Another MIA_SFO flight would be nice too!!

And what ever happened to the rumored MIA-PHX when US/HP pulled off the route?

AJMIA



Lady it's a jet... not a kite.
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32699 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9248 times:

Quoting B752OS (Reply 3):
Just a question. When AA adds a 7th daily flight between MIA-LAX, which type of aircraft will it use?

737-800.

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 4):
Is the 7th daily MIA-LAX going to be a permanent add or just for the winter?

Right now, just for the winter, but if the flight can do well enough it will continue. Last year's 6th daily MIA-LAX was also winter-only, but went year-round.

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 4):
And what ever happened to the rumored MIA-PHX when US/HP pulled off the route?

It was delayed from a September start. It may still happen in December, time will tell. I for sure think it will happen soon enough, but who knows.



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User currently offlineGman3 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 290 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 9159 times:

Sigh.. the days that we at United used to fly a 777 from MIA-LAX. I miss the good ole days (1999-2000 lolol)

User currently offlineLVTMB From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 391 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 9074 times:

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 4):
Another MIA_SFO flight would be nice too!!

Absolutely! Badly needed, indeed!

MB


User currently offlineDc10s4ever From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8897 times:

Quoting Gman3 (Reply 6):
Sigh.. the days that we at United used to fly a 777 from MIA-LAX. I miss the good ole days (1999-2000 lolol)

Heck I remember the days that UA had a 747SP on this route. Now that is the good ole days!


User currently offlineIberiaA319 From Spain, joined Sep 2005, 574 posts, RR: 38
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8859 times:

Quoting Gman3 (Reply 6):
Sigh.. the days that we at United used to fly a 777 from MIA-LAX. I miss the good ole days (1999-2000 lolol)

In 2000 I flew on a United Airlines B777 on the LAX-MIA route. That was a nice ride!!!!! The plane continued to Sao Paulo (GRU).


User currently offlineBigGSFO From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2920 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8723 times:

Quoting LVTMB (Reply 7):
Quoting AJMIA (Reply 4):Another MIA_SFO flight would be nice too!!
Absolutely! Badly needed, indeed!

I agree 1000%. Maybe even the return of SJC-MIA since the SFO flights seem so full.


User currently offlineMalpensaSFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8397 times:

Quoting BigGSFO (Reply 10):
Maybe even the return of SJC-MIA since the SFO flights seem so full

Unfortunately San Jose is sitting in stale water as far as American Airlines is concerned. With the Narita 777 flight ending on October, American can finally move on and close the chapter in San Jose.

Quoting Dc10s4ever (Reply 8):
Quoting Gman3 (Reply 6):
Sigh.. the days that we at United used to fly a 777 from MIA-LAX. I miss the good ole days (1999-2000 lolol)

[quote=Dc10s4ever,reply=8]Heck I remember the days that UA had a 747SP on this route. Now that is the good ole days!

The days were good! Over the years United Airlines Miami operation saw:

SFO - 777, 747, 767, D10
LAX - 777, 747, 767
IAD - 777, 767, D10
ORD - 777, 767
DEN - 777, 767


User currently offlineLipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11429 posts, RR: 58
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 8148 times:
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This 777 can be a plane that could be used on additional flights to Brazil from MIA during the day ?

Felipe



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User currently offline73G From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 128 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 8040 times:

Quoting N62NA (Thread starter):
IAD - 777, 767, D10

Add the 74L (SP) to that list. 914/915 was operated by a 74L for a while on the EZE-MIA-IAD-CDG trip.


User currently offlinePRAirbus From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2005, 1136 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7922 times:

AA MIA-LAX 777 service is a 3 class airplane but will not be a 3 class service like JFK Transcons. The Business Class cabin will be sold as Coach. Perhaps the 777 capacity is needed somewhere else or SABRE might not be updated.

User currently onlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 733 posts, RR: 15
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7712 times:

Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 14):
AA MIA-LAX 777 service is a 3 class airplane but will not be a 3 class service like JFK Transcons. The Business Class cabin will be sold as Coach.

Really?

I think they would be foolish not to use three cabins. Trust me on MIA-LAX there is always demand for premium product. Especially early in the morning when all the connections come in from deep S. America.
The front cabin could be used for international F class premium pax and the J cabin would take all the mileage upgrades and J connections.

AJMIA



Lady it's a jet... not a kite.
User currently offlineKanebear From United States of America, joined May 2002, 953 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 7449 times:

Yep, MIA-LAX was a non AFS flight and was two class. GREAT for transcons as elites could book into the J cabin and not worry about upgrading. It's been gone a while though, has it not? There's still a 763 on the route.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32699 posts, RR: 72
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 7449 times:

Quoting PRAirbus (Reply 14):
AA MIA-LAX 777 service is a 3 class airplane but will not be a 3 class service like JFK Transcons. The Business Class cabin will be sold as Coach. Perhaps the 777 capacity is needed somewhere else or SABRE might not be updated.

It was 3-class in SABRE as recently as two weeks ago. That might have changed.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 7421 times:

Quoting MalpensaSFO (Reply 11):

Unfortunately San Jose is sitting in stale water as far as American Airlines is concerned. With the Narita 777 flight ending on October, American can finally move on and close the chapter in San Jose.

Even with all the flights AA/AE have cut, after WN, AA/AE is still the 2nd largest operator out of SJC....and then there is the SJC-SEA codeshare with AS......I've flown on a few AS codeshare flights, it makes life much easier for me...

Right now market forces doesn't dictate AA expanding SJC, but they do have enough flights out of SJC as well as a decent Admirals Club to keep it as a nice "mini-hub"



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7164 times:

BUMMER! but the 738s are nice if you ask me.

Tommy in EWR/LAX.



"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
User currently onlineAJMIA From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 733 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7074 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 18):
Right now market forces doesn't dictate AA expanding SJC, but they do have enough flights out of SJC as well as a decent Admirals Club to keep it as a nice "mini-hub"

I would imagine the club will close not long after the NRT flight is discontinued.

AJMIA



Lady it's a jet... not a kite.
User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4447 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 6835 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 17):
It was 3-class in SABRE as recently as two weeks ago. That might have changed.

This is weird. On AA.com now if I try to book it, I get a choice of either Economy (starting at row 20) or First (rows 2,3,4). There is no way to book the business cabin - and I'm logged in so aa.com knows my Platinum status.


User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8670 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 6484 times:

I thought MIA-LAX demnanded 3 class service anyway. They should put a 3 class 763ER on the route. Btw, what happened to the 767 MCO used to get.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 6433 times:

Quoting AJMIA (Reply 20):

I would imagine the club will close not long after the NRT flight is discontinued.

I doubt it, though the SJC-NRT flight does bring in some Admirals Club Members, the majority use it for all the other flights...Try using the Admirals Club at 7-8 a.m.-its packed to the brim....



"Up the Irons!"
User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4447 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 6420 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 22):
I thought MIA-LAX demnanded 3 class service anyway. They should put a 3 class 763ER on the route.

There's no such thing! (Though there are 3 class 762s still flying for AA).


25 AJMIA : Well I hope you are right... it would be nice to keep it. I just have a feeling that they would close it because it seems that the only domestic club
26 Jacobin777 : I know what you are saying, but the city size really doesn't matter...its the operational side which is more important.. for example....ATL, DEN, PHL
27 AJMIA : You are right... I meant to say operation but I chose the wrong word. Thanks. ATL -- Competiton with DL DEN -- COmpetition with UA PHL -- Competition
28 Lredlefsen : Yep -- add me as another potential customer. It'd be nice not to have to fly in a "slaveship" (757) on that route, too -- bring on another 763!
29 Post contains images Jacobin777 : Good list.. .. My only comment on that though is that AA can't be spending on Admirals Clubs just because there is competition...they would go broke
30 Legacyins : "mini-hub", that's a joke, right. I belive there are just as many or one or two more flights by AA out of SFO than SJC. SFO is also listed in their i
31 MAH4546 : Admiral Clubs are not built for compieition. They are built because of strong, usually pre-exisiting, loyal business flyer base. The business flyer b
32 MAH4546 : That lasted long... The 777 is back in the schedule, indefinitley.
33 Jacobin777 : Why is it a joke? Because you say so? I've given good reasons as to why SJC can be considered a "mini-hub".....and what does the amount of AA flights
34 Legacyins : Well, i guess using your reasoning makes SFO a nice little "mimi hub" for AA also? AA and its partner airlines , ie: AS and Oneworld carriers, have a
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