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Why Is SAS Retiring The MD90?  
User currently offlineLS737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2188 times:

Why is SAS retiring the MD90 from its fleet whilst retaining a large fleet of MD80s? Aren't the MD90s more fuel efficient than the MD80s?

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User currently offline717sk From Sweden, joined Sep 2001, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2150 times:

It was to expensive to just operate 8 aircraft and a dedicated flight deck crew.

User currently offlineLS737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2130 times:

Quoting 717sk (Reply 1):
It was to expensive to just operate 8 aircraft and a dedicated flight deck crew

Oh - I read in 'Airliner World' magazine a couple of years ago an article about the MD90 in SAS service and it said that the flight crew were rated on both the MD80 and the MD90 - was this not the case?

User currently offlineExpressJet_ERJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 808 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2079 times:

Delta should pick up these MD90s along with JALs. Would be a smart pick up, but I dont think they are in a position to aquire new airplanes.


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User currently offlineAirMailer From United States of America, joined May 2006, 407 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

Quoting ExpressJet_ERJ (Reply 3):
Delta should pick up these MD90s along with JALs. Would be a smart pick up, but I dont think they are in a position to aquire new airplanes.

DL might not be, but I'm sure that GECAS is, and they could just lease them to DL for 10 years or so.

User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 5810 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2026 times:

Quoting LS737 (Reply 2):
the flight crew were rated on both the MD80 and the MD90 - was this not the case?

Those who were MD-90, were normally also MD-80 rated.

But the vast majority of MD-80 drivers were not MD-90 rated.

Quoting ExpressJet_ERJ (Reply 3):
Delta should pick up these MD90s

Hello in Switzerland picked most of them up long time ago. Three of those Hello planes are doing round the clock service for Iceland Express.

http://www.hello.ch/

http://www.icelandexpress.com/

Too bad. Those MD-90s were the best planes SAS ever had.
 Sad


Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 5810 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1992 times:

I think that Hello in Switzerland has taken six of the eight former SAS MD-90s, and they are on lease from Boeing Capital. Here is one of them in Iceland Express scheme:


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The remaining two I believe are currently operated by the SAS subsidiary Blue 1.


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Hello MD-90 in Swiss charter service:


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Photo © Bianca Renz




Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineAndaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1907 times:

Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 6):
I think that Hello in Switzerland has taken six of the eight former SAS MD-90s

And some (3?) to Blue1?

User currently offlineTriStar500 From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 4674 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1775 times:

AFAIK:

3 are flying with KF
2 are flying with NRD
3 are flying with FHE


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User currently offlineD950 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 493 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1473 times:

Hello's first three MD90's came via VCV from previous users.

HB-JIA - AMC/KTHY
HB-JIB - AMC/KTHY
HB-JIC - AMC/Tunisair


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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 15102 posts, RR: 69
Reply 10, posted (5 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1428 times:

Quoting LS737 (Thread starter):
Aren't the MD90s more fuel efficient than the MD80s?

As is clear from this case, fuel efficiency is only one of many factors involved in the total cost of ownership.

Apart from operational factors (which seem to have been the main reason), SK may have had diadvantageous lease terms (on airframes, engines, APUs) or they may even have received a good price for them and decided to unload them at a good time.


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