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Why No Winglets For The 737-600?  
User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2612 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9509 times:

Why no winglets for the 737-600s?All the 737NG have winglets except the 736!!!
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User currently offlineNewSky From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2005, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9509 times:

Not sure if the -900 did either. Only the new -900ER. Maybe you can get them with winglets but the airlines that ordered them chose not to.

[Edited 2006-07-11 11:59:05]

User currently offlineEHHO From Bulgaria, joined Dec 2005, 815 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9477 times:

Because there's a profitability curve for installing winglets. Mind you, these are pretty heavy, tall things. They adjust the aerodynamic profile of the plane slightly, thereby increasing efficiency of fuel-burn. This efficiency occurs only at flights above a certain break-even distance. Given the purposes for airlines like AA and CO to retrofit their 737NGs with winglets, I'd say this breakeven point is somewhere around 1200-1500nm.

737-600 are Boeing's unfortuante attempt at creating an RJ with 737 commonality, never mind that the 737 platform is unfit to compete with modern day RJs (the 737-100 was of course nothing other than an RJ, but that was in the 60s). Given that RJs don't usually fly distances of 1200-1500nm, it is not profiatble to install 737NG-custom winglets on them. They will cost more than they'll save on fuel burn.



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9477 times:

Quoting NewSky (Reply 1):
Not sure if the -900 did. Only the new -900ER. Maybe you can get them with winglets but the airlines that ordered them chose not to.

Huh?


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Of course, winglets are available for the 73G and 738......but I am not sure if a winglet has been certified for the 736 or 739 (non ER version), likely due to the fact that the 736 and 739 have been produced in smaller numbers. While the winglets do make an aircraft more effecient, the cost of developing the winglet and getting the modification certified is also quite expensive, and its possible that the costs dont make sense on the variants will small production runs.


User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 963 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9459 times:

I think it's more a stability problem. Without winglets the wingspan is already longer the total length of the 736 - hence a very unstable aircraft. With the winglets added it would be even more unstable longitudinal.

User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2053 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 9425 times:

Westjet ordered winglets for their -600s a long time ago. Strangely tho, no photos have appeared on the a.net database.  Confused


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User currently offlineTinPusher007 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 966 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9255 times:

One of the main, often-stated problems with the 736 in particular is that it is too heavy as a 100 seater. And, as has been stated, the winglets are heavy and would further add weight to an airplane that many operators consider to be overweight as is. Furthermore, I don't believe the mission profile for the 736 is such that the aerodynamic benefits would justify the costs and added weight of the winglets.


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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9601 posts, RR: 69
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9245 times:
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The -600 winglet program gets started this fall, there are no pictures because it does not exist yet.

User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1907 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9235 times:

Westjet is getting winglets for their 736's. I beleive they start with certification in the fall. As it takes around three months to get them certified, they don't want to pull an aircraft from traffic during the busy summer period.


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