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JetBlue To Announce Two More Cities Soon Part II  
User currently offlineStl1326 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 496 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 14144 times:

Someone posted that the annoucement is Friday morning. Can we get any clues as if it is STL and CMH? And what does everyone think of the rumor of BLV?

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User currently offlineABQopsHP From United States of America, joined May 2006, 861 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 14121 times:

Doesnt anyone think that B6 is moving just a bit too fast? I watched airlines like PeoplExpress and AirFlorida grow rapidly, only to have the whole thing come crashing down a few short years later. Maybe im being negative, but.....


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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 14112 times:

Quoting ABQopsHP (Reply 1):
Doesnt anyone think that B6 is moving just a bit too fast? I watched airlines like PeoplExpress and AirFlorida grow rapidly, only to have the whole thing come crashing down a few short years later. Maybe im being negative, but.....

Unlike the airlines you mention, B6 has plenty of cash/market capitalization value to weather any severe downturn. Not to mention that B6 hasn't substantially deviated from their business model (i.e. 747s JFK-Europe). Finally, B6 has a management team that has learned the lessons of all the LCC failures.

Growth is not a bad thing for jetBlue. To the contrary, it is healthy and necessary. Most of the markets they have been expanding to make sense and have lots of potential.


User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 14093 times:

Quoting ABQopsHP (Reply 1):
I watched airlines like PeoplExpress



Quoting RJpieces (Reply 2):
Finally, B6 has a management team that has learned the lessons of all the LCC failures.

Ironically, there are quite a few folks in the company that were with PeoplExpress...so they will definitely speak up if they see the expansion happening too quickly. Just my little insider info LOL!



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User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3018 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 14053 times:

It does seem like they are expanding rather quickly, though. SRQ, HOU and TUS were just announced a couple of weeks ago, JFK-CLT starts tomorrow (I hear the bookings are extremely strong), JFK-RDU starts soon, as well as JFK-BNA, JFK-IAD, JFK-AUA and SYR-MCO.

If seems as if it would make more sense to do more connecting the dots for the rest of the year instead of opening up even more stations. Some routes that would make sense for B6 are BOS-SYR, BTV-MCO and MCO-PCE. Should we expect more connecting the dots next year?

Then again, this could be another one of those "throw 'em off by a mile" situations that JetBlue is infamous for. They were originally reporting that very few cities would be opened this year and that more connecting the dots would occur as a result of the E190s. Next year was supposedly the big "new city" year, but it looks as if reality has it backwards.

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 14033 times:

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 4):
BOS-SYR

IIRC, this is in the works utilizing an E190.

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 4):
connecting the dots would occur as a result of the E190s

I have a feeling this was because nobody knew what the E190 was going to do LOL! The E190 has really turned into a great workhorse and its dispatch reliability is really amazing. I think that became an incentive to go ahead and open up the cities instead of having wait to work the bugs out by flying the E190 between B6 MX cities first then expanding. This is IMHO by the way LOL!



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User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3018 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 14033 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 5):
IIRC, this is in the works utilizing an E190.

Oddly enough, it's utilizing an A320.

I think this is Neeleman throwing all of us again. LOL

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 13977 times:

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 6):
I think this is Neeleman throwing all of us again. LOL

Love having him for a boss!!!! Keeps me on my toes!



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33278 posts, RR: 71
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 13900 times:

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 4):
Some routes that would make sense for B6 are BOS-SYR, BTV-MCO and MCO-PCE. Should we expect more connecting the dots next year?

FLL-PSE has been looked at, not MCO-PSE. jetBlue's Orlando concentration is not permanent. It is a placeholder because they can't expand at FLL right now.



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User currently offlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3827 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 13868 times:

I'm still hoping for B6's first Midwestern cities. STL would be nice, as would CMH... but I'm hoping for IND as well, as it's the closest major airport to me.

Why? I've been wanting to try out jetBlue with a flight to JFK on them for the longest time... but they haven't shown us Midwesterners any love for a whopping six and a half years. Yeah, I could fly to the Big Apple on CO, US, DL, or (gasp) NW, among others, but I want to fly to New York on New York's hometown airline and see what all the fuss is about. My friends in other cities that have flown B6 love them... but I can't share the same experience due to the fact that PIT is their closest city right now... and that's a 6 hour drive from here!

All in all, I like you, too, jetBlue... I just can't experience you yet.



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User currently offlineLGAtoIND From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 13783 times:

I agree, IND would be a very nice surprise. That being said, tickets are pretty cheap from LGA/JFK-IND already. I just bought a DL nonstop JFK-IND in August for 97 bucks one-way. B6 probably wants to take on the dominAAnt carrier at STL.

User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3018 posts, RR: 14
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13629 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 8):
FLL-PSE has been looked at, not MCO-PSE. jetBlue's Orlando concentration is not permanent. It is a placeholder because they can't expand at FLL right now.

It definitely makes sense to expand to Puerto Rico out of FLL. However, why not continue to concentrate on MCO as well? I'm sure those SJU and BQN flights weren't started just because JetBlue was upset with the FLL situation.

Also, how's that 4th gate at FLL for B6 coming along? Any updates?

IMO, B6 should forget about any more expansion at FLL (except PR) and start expanding at MIA. It only makes sense - no WN, small FL presence.

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineStl1326 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 496 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13610 times:

Quoting LGAtoIND (Reply 10):
B6 probably wants to take on the dominAAnt carrier at STL.

If STL is announced, I think it will be interesting to see if AA responds if at all.


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9268 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13595 times:

Quoting LGAtoIND (Reply 10):
B6 probably wants to take on the dominAAnt carrier at STL.

Hmmm, and who would that be... Ethiopian Airlines, right??? hehehehehehh... duh...

Sorry, had to throw that in there  Smile



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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13585 times:

I am hoping for SDF as there has been some people from B6 out here taking a look.



Sean



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User currently offlineUnited319 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 541 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 13561 times:
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Quoting RJpieces (Reply 2):
Unlike the airlines you mention, B6 has plenty of cash/market capitalization value to weather any severe downturn. Not to mention that B6 hasn't substantially deviated from their business model (i.e. 747s JFK-Europe). Finally, B6 has a management team that has learned the lessons of all the LCC failures.

Growth is not a bad thing for jetBlue. To the contrary, it is healthy and necessary. Most of the markets they have been expanding to make sense and have lots of potential.

JetBlue as has actually reported a big loss this quarter. Instead of adding more cities with low frequencies and trying to dominate the US as the main LCC, they should use the method that has made FL so profitable; they increase the frequencies in the cities they already have.



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13517 times:

What happened to MLB? I thought B6 people were down here. DL is the dominant carrier here.

MAH4546,

B6 is going to make MCO a base in 2007 for pilots and FA's. They already train people on the E190 here. MCO will become a larger FLL if FLL fails due to restrictions.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13508 times:

B6 is doing the same thing DL has done...take the same number of airplanes and fly them to alot more cities in order to reduce capacity on existing routes. DL is doing it on a worldwide scale while B6 is focusing on the US.

User currently offlineCadet57 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 9085 posts, RR: 30
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13487 times:

Ok, so I've said it a dozen times, but here goes again. BDL! Any ideas on it?


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User currently offlineJetBlueNYFL From United States of America, joined May 2006, 274 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13487 times:

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 11):
Also, how's that 4th gate at FLL for B6 coming along? Any updates?

I thought jetBlue does have 4 gates at FLL - C4, C6, B8, B9????? Nonetheless, they could still use more space at FLL to further grow.

Quoting United319 (Reply 15):
JetBlue as has actually reported a big loss this quarter. Instead of adding more cities with low frequencies and trying to dominate the US as the main LCC, they should use the method that has made FL so profitable; they increase the frequencies in the cities they already have.

Excuse me? Results for this quarter have not yet been released. It will be reported on 7/25/06 and a profit is expected. How big or small, I don't know...but it's even better than break-even, after 2 tough quarters!

jetBlue learned from their mistakes and that's purposely why they are not increasing frequencies between existing cities. Do you mean connecting the dots, instead? Inreasing frequencies made no sense...8 JFK-LGB nonstops was terrible and unnecessary. Same thing with 12 JFK-FLL flights in the summer! When jetBlue has 14 JFK-FLL flights in the winter, they do very well...it's a popular route during the winter months. Right-sizing capacity on MANY routes has played a crucial part of the Return To Profitability plan.

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 16):
What happened to MLB? I thought B6 people were down here. DL is the dominant carrier here

I think Live TV is run out of MLB so there are always B6 people down there. I heard B6 people were at SAV though...CMH and STL would be great markets for jetBlue.

Does anyone know the status of CUN???



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User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13477 times:

Quoting United319 (Reply 15):
JetBlue as has actually reported a big loss this quarter.

Did I say anything to the contrary?

Quoting United319 (Reply 15):
Instead of adding more cities with low frequencies and trying to dominate the US as the main LCC,

How exactly is jetBlue trying to dominate the US as the main LCC? They've existed for six years carefully avoiding to compete head to head with WN (but that might have already changed recently). jetBlue is interested in making money and building a succesful airline, not domination.

Quoting United319 (Reply 15):
they should use the method that has made FL so profitable;

jetBlue learned lessons from airlines like ValuJet and incorporated most of them into their original business model. Honestly, I don't think there are many lessons from FL for jetBlue today.

Quoting United319 (Reply 15):
they increase the frequencies in the cities they already have.

Nobody will disagree with you there. But I'll remind you that jetBlue has hundreds of aircraft on order which means that plenty of dots will inevitably be connected.

And I'd also add that connecting the dots isn't an automatic key to success; I guarantee you that jetBlue views opening these new stations (and the costs associated with them) as a better choice than connecting two dots. This means that they must view the profit potential of these new stations as higher than connecting two dots.


User currently offlineDaisywol From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13349 times:

Good things come to those who wait
Keep the guessing game going


User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3018 posts, RR: 14
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13335 times:

IND and CMH are my two guesses.

STL will have to wait till early next year if you ask me.

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineLambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2081 posts, RR: 36
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13313 times:

Quoting Daisywol (Reply 21):
Good things come to those who wait
Keep the guessing game going

I keep getting this feeling that I am getting setup for a big letdown. After all, some internet rumors have failed to come true in the past.   

[Edited 2006-07-12 05:58:21]

User currently offlineHa787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 13313 times:

my two quesses are ;
hnl from lgb/oak
and finally msp from jfk/bos


25 HPAEAA : May I ask how? I'm not sure I want to get on a 320 for service to HNL... that might be a little scary, that and I can't swim that well
26 Post contains images B6767200 : MCO is defiantly growing into a focus city, and not because of the gate situation in FLL and MIA. Regardless of what happens in southern Florida MCO
27 Atrude777 : I am with you man, I am not expecting STL now at all. Oh well Alex
28 Wmupilot : HNL is not on our target for oh say, the next 10-15 years. The 320 bearly has the range to make KJFK-KLGB in the winter jet stream. HNL has way too mu
29 Post contains images B6767200 :
30 Post contains images B6WNQX :
31 Post contains images Wmupilot : CBS approached us and wanted us to do "Survivor 234 - Stranded in the Wreckage of a JetBlue A320 in the middle of the pacific, because they thought t
32 LambertMan : B767, So St. Louis has went from a potential midwest hub to being announced next year in a matter of a week? Mmmm....
33 Indy : I don't think IND will get it anytime in the near future.
34 Post contains images MrSTL : IF STL is announced it will be a huge success for B6. While living in the LA area I witnessed JetBlue come into town guns blazing with advertisements
35 B6767200 : I still don't know what happened, as of yestarday evrything has gone South. I will find out why... not saying it won't happen, just not yet. Stay tun
36 Post contains images Atrude777 : Hmmph, STL is still more south then CMH
37 Werdywerd : ETOPS of course. It stands for Engines Turning Or People Swimming.
38 Post contains images Stl1326 : Are you kidding me. I feel really stupid thinking STL would be announced. I guess I should have known .
39 Post contains images B6767200 : How do you think I feel? I started the thread, I don't know what happened but I will try to find out.
40 HPAEAA : Maybe the HNL idea thats popped up in a couple threads including this one won out... maybe they inked a deal were Carnival will buy an Aircraft carri
41 SKYYBLUE : I've never heard or seen BDL on any of our wishlists before...who knows but I don't foresee BDL. JFK-BDL -- no , BOS-BDL--hell no, Florida-BDL - yeah
42 Lowecur : Jetblue needs a midwest hub announcement pronto. Neeleman has even hinted at a midwest hub in the last few months. They can't run all these new planes
43 Greenguy01 : Like I said earlier in the other thread someone is pulling our leg. And that's a great VP source that you have too... you should ask him or her what
44 Lowecur : What may have changed is Mgt for both SWA and AMR read these boards and decided to p/u the phone and call STL. It's not unheard of to place veiled th
45 ERJ170 : What is the chances of it being ORF? I know they are at RIC, but ORF was one of the original cities on the list.. Honestly, I could see STL.. It does
46 Post contains links MrSTL : JetBlue to service Charlotte NC http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/060712/101983.html I predict the other destination will be SAT..?
47 B6DC10 : Wrong. We have not yet announced Q2 statistics. That being said, we are forecasting a PROFIT for Q2. MIA is tough, because it is the single most expe
48 MrSTL : I agree 100%
49 B6DC10 : SAV and Charleston are DEF on the radar...I've heard that atleast one of them may come before then end of '06 DL appealed the DOT's ruling for both u
50 Chase : Admittedly I haven't lived in St. Louis for 12 years now. But...while I was there, "Illinois" and "East side" were strange, foreign, and definitely s
51 Post contains images FlyBoy84 : I, too, don't see B6 starting at BLV - as much as I would like to see that happening (and I live about 7 minutes from STL). Even though there are some
52 ERJ170 : But, on the flip to that.. they have chosen many alternatives over the primary.. OAK over SFO, LGB/BUR/ONT over LAX, HOU over IAH, DAL over DFW, FLL
53 MrSTL : No they would not.. AA and WN would match fares and people would continue to use Lambert--- this is not a Long Beach situation... IMHO they would be
54 Tbird : Explain how connecting the dots make sense from a revenue standpoint? Jetblue's network isn't big enough to connect the dots. The name of the game is
55 MCOflyer : MCO is growing for B6. Quick turnaround times, and more gate space. B6 will make a pilot base and fa base there in 2007. My theory is it will be bigge
56 FlyBoy84 : Umm...and this is Saint Louis, Missouri you're talking about? I mean, while I - for one, would do it and apparently you would, too...surely even you
57 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : Well I was hoping for the 3 Saints (SXM, STT, STL) but now I can see CMH and SAV coming on. CMH could have 3X 190 to JFK and SAV could have 3X 190 to
58 Gregarious119 : " target=_blank>http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/060712/10198....html Is it just me or did we all miss that news article? It would *appear* that RDU and CLT ar
59 Stl1326 : They have already been announced like months ago. CLT started today and RDU starts in a couple weeks. It would be nice to know what happened. In the
60 ERJ170 : Next thursday actually.. 20Jul06
61 Mikester540 : BDL! We can only wish!
62 EmSeeEye : Great... Just like TWA I wouldnt be able to get a flight out of MCI to New York without a connection. I can just see it now.... MCI to STL on a E190
63 Post contains images Golftango : Yes, BDL - MCO, BDL - FLL Or how about BDL - LAS?
64 Post contains images Futureb6capt : I doubt it will be IND...but i'm still hoping for FNT or GRR-FNT is growing tremendiously. My bets still go out to CMH and FNT or ORD. Just watch
65 MAH4546 : Actually, FLL is the mess. More congested, more delay prone, longer secuirty lines, horrendous immigration. MIA is the easier airport to use, contrar
66 AAFlyer2006 : Looking at jetBlue’s focus cities, they are all in large metro areas ( over 4 million people) and, with the exception of Boston, in a non-primary a
67 Luv2fly : Yes I have to agree! That is why it is called a RUMOR! And letting the proverbial cat out of the bag can get people in trouble with the S.E.C. can an
68 FWAERJ : TOL is trying to lure B6... their SCASD grant is directed at them. But, then again, FWA is trying to lure B6 with their new incentive package as well
69 Indy : I'm with you on that. BTW would they announce a new route before getting approval from the airport authority board?
70 Post contains images MrSTL : Actually 2.8 million other than DFW or MSP what other alternatives are there. Plus you are looking at a location where the primary interests of AA an
71 Kaputt : Yea I remember back a few years when B6 first published an article about the markets they wanted to serve with their E-190s they mentioned Norfolk. I
72 Post contains links Indy : According to http://stlouis.missouri.org/citygov/...h/data/about/population/popchg.htm It is only 2.57mil. And out of curiosity why is there 11 count
73 Post contains links MrSTL : All depends on where you look 2.76 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Louis,_Missouri
74 Post contains links Stl1326 : The one you are looking at is almost 7 years old and it all depends on where you look as well. This is from 2005 from St. Louis Commerce and Growth a
75 AAFlyer2006 : The four mid-western cities would be Chicago (9.3 million), Detroit (4.4 million), Minneapolis (3.1 million), and St. Louis (2.7 million) Minneapolis
76 B6767200 : Ok guys as promised I have gotten my update on STL, it will happen just not yet, I apoligize but I can't go into further details...as far as FRI. We
77 Post contains images BOS2LAF :    B6 is going after markets with low competition right now. IND has a lot of competition. NW, CO, DL, and US to the NYC area; WN, FL, and NW to Fl
78 Stl1326 : I understand. Hopefully STL will be announced sooner than later. I've waited this long what's another year. Good for CMH. They should do well there.
79 B6MoneyGuyJFK : Too much of a newbie to add you to my respected users list, but when when I am able.... I love knowing I know something that may not be available to
80 Drnate00 : I will believe it when I see an official release
81 Luv2fly : All worth reading again!
82 B6767200 : 2 more days
83 Post contains images LambertMan : Hmm, well isn't that interesting. St. Louis keeps waiting, St. Louis gets that good thing. Well, maybe not. Maybe I'm reading into that statement too
84 Drnate00 : For what STL or CMH? You said you weren't sure about STL
85 Post contains links ASFlyer : From USA Today 7/12/06: USA Today article The industry has lost more than $42 billion since 2000, but Linenberg says to look for second-quarter profi
86 Werdywerd : Jetblue will be reporting a profit come the July 25th announcement, no numbers yet but defilitly back in the black. "Neidl's assessment" is just that
87 B6767200 : CMH
88 Drnate00 : Ahh ok...gotcha
89 Post contains links ASFlyer : I don't know one way or another. I guess we'll just see on the 25th. So far though, the analysts aren't looking forward to a profit. It is also seems
90 MrSTL : We do reside in the Show Me State, I'll now believe it when the plane is at the gate.
91 Indy : That right now would likely be the worst location an airline could choose to run a hub. The facilities are barely enough to handle limited O/D. Chica
92 FWAERJ : The management at GYY has said that they will be more than willing to expand the current terminal with temporary units if a new carrier arrives to ti
93 ScottB : My best guess from the data reported by the company so far is that they'll report a modest operating profit in the neighborhood of $20-30 million and
94 Lowecur : Good guess Scott. The analysts are saying 3 to 5 cents, which would put the net profit between $5M to $9M. I think you may see a slight surprise on t
95 Lowecur : Yeah, you are right if they are looking for instant gratification. What do they have one or two jetbridges and one baggage carousel? However, where t
96 Indy : Well you notice how airlines haven't been beating down the door to start service there? Ever wonder why?
97 AAFlyer2006 : If jetBlue can get the temporary facilities then Gary/Chicago does seem like a better option than St. Louis. There is nearly 3 1/2 m in the Chicago m
98 Lowecur : At some pt, somebody is going to do something with that airport. Whether it's Jetblue, Virgin America, Air Tran, or somebody else lurking to start a
99 AAFlyer2006 : I agree. Because ORD and MDW are full, any airlines currently without gates in either airport will have to either serve Chicago through a reliever ai
100 Daisywol : And the new cities are.......... oops my bad it is not friday am yet
101 Stl1326 : Can you say if there is more than one city being announced?
102 Post contains links Stl1326 : Well it is offical Jetblue to CMH. According to the Columbus Dispatch CMH will be announced Thursday. What is being announced on Friday? Here is a lin
103 Post contains images Indy : It's a start
104 Bigdrewfl : Congrats!!! to Columbus and Jetblue!
105 Post contains links Asuflyer05 : Here's the official press release. http://biz.yahoo.com/pz/060713/102060.html
106 Charlipr : I posted these on another thread, just in case anyone is interested: Anyone up for the inagural flight on B6 from CMH-JFK AT 11:55 AM coming back the
107 InTheSky74 : If JetBlue does announce Gary/Chicago, this will make me VERY VERY happy. I'd be happier with that announcement than with St. Louis! Rob
108 Stl1326 : Is there something being announced on Friday in addition to CMH being announced today?
109 Post contains images Boeing nut : My bet is STL will be over looked. (again) The rumor mill has been active, but not at a fever pitch. Usually, when something big is going down, there
110 Bluejackets : Thank you, Columbus Dispatch, for providing some credible evidence of jetBlue coming to CMH. What a relief it was to open my Dispatch this morning and
111 Daisywol : And what does Dave reading this have to do with anything?
112 Post contains images DeltaRules : Awesome! I've been hoping to see B6 start to CMH for a while now! Nice to see another new airline at my airport. DeltaRules
113 Post contains images FWAERJ : Congrats to CMH for becoming JetBlue's first Midwestern destination! Let's hope for even more Midwestern announcements from B6 by year's end... anythi
114 ExpressJet_ERJ : So how far away for St. Louis? And is it still expected it will be a "hub"?
115 InTheSky74 : Personally, I think BLV would be a smarter move for JetBlue than STL and GYY would be a smarter move for JetBlue than ORD/MDW right now. Both of these
116 J32driver : STOP with the BLV talk. I work for B6 and live in STL. I wouldn't even drive to BLV to commute ON MY OWN AIRLINE! BLV only makes sense if STL is full,
117 FlyCMH : It's definitely exciting to see a new carrier arrive at Port Columbus. JetBlue's arrival should continue what's been emerging as a new chapter in the
118 Charlipr : I was looking at fare for CMH-SJU-CMH (via JFK) for Thanksgiving week (24th Nov-03 Dec), and the total was $415 on B6. On USAir it is $408, but two da
119 InTheSky74 : BLV does make sense if it would be cheaper to operate in, and if BLV gave B6 more incentives to come there than STL did.... Rob
120 Texan : Not to mention some design problems with BLV (location of fuel farms, cargo area, large cracks in the ceiling of the terminal building) that make it
121 FlyCMH : I was checking trips to San Juan also since much of my family still lives there and use jetBlue frequently to visit friends in New York. In October,
122 J32driver : Cheaper + incentives won't make up for the lost traffic. BLV would be a blunder of amazing proportions for B6. The airport is in the middle of nowher
123 DeltaRules : I noticed the low fares to SJU, too, as that was pretty much the first thing I checked after B6 announced their service. Those fares look pretty nice
124 FWAERJ : Well, the popular MetroLink light-rail line has its eastern terminus at the BLV terminal, and the area around BLV is growing big-time. So, BLV is not
125 Chase : IIRC, BLV is closer to downtown St. Louis than STL is. So it would be great for the business traveller. And I didn't realize that MetroLink's extensio
126 MAH4546 : There is a proposal to extend MetroLink to Mid-America. It does not serve BLV.
127 Atrude777 : Hmmh, traveling on what? By car it takes about for me 40 minutes to get from BLV to downtown STL. By Train, it takes about an hour probably, it depen
128 Steeler83 : What is it with all of this talk with BLV? I have to agree that STL is still wide open, and that B6 would have abundant room for growth there, let alo
129 FWAERJ : I stand corrected... the 18X St. Louis Metro bus links the MetroLink from the Shiloh/Scott AFB station to BLV at this time.
130 AAFlyer2006 : Sincerely, I do wonder why the airlines arnen't serving GYY. Maybe an advocate of serving a Chicago proper airport over GYY can shed some light on th
131 Post contains images B6DC10 : If we start service to GYY, I will show up at the opening wearing nothing more than my SIDA badge, and a pair of sunglasses. That is how confident I
132 MAH4546 : They are established airports that airlines can fly to at low risk. In addition, for airlines that already serve MDW or ORD, the cost associated with
133 ScottB : You don't have to be "an advocate of serving a Chicago proper airport" to understand why there's little demand for service to GYY. MDW isn't maxed ou
134 FlyBoy84 : As much as I think BLV has potential for its parallel runways space 7000' apart, there's just too much work that would need to be done to make the air
135 FlyBoy84 : The Metro-East is not all slums! Belleville is a nice working and middle-class suburb along with Fairview Heights and O'Fallon. There are houses goin
136 AAFlyer2006 : There are approximately close to 2 million people that can drive to the Gary airport faster than they can drive to Midway airport. There are nearly 3
137 Steeler83 : I thought ORD would be the place where B6 would/could have ontime performance problems. Large hubs for UA and AA, plus a ton of other domestic and in
138 B6FA4ever : that would probably be higher yield. plus MDW is LCC central. i think out of all the airlines that serve ORD i believe theres 1 or 2 LCC flying into
139 Post contains images Stl1326 : I couldn't have said it better myself.....
140 Luv2fly : Yes true though would they want to? That is the question you have to ask yourself.
141 ScottB : It isn't all slums but most of the people (75-80% of metro area population) and most of the money are on the Missouri side of the river. That is a si
142 Lowecur : Depends what your definition of maxed out is. MDW gatewise is very limited. FL has tried to snag as many unused gates as they can get their hands on.
143 Indy : Exactly. Are the big spenders going to drive to GYY? Or are they going to go to ORD? Are the people likely to end up at GYY likely to buy tickets on
144 Lowecur : It's the old issue of why endanger your health in a rough area, when you can get the same service at MDW. Perceptions are hard to break. Take a look
145 Nopeotone : Well I doubt B6 will be going to GYY soon. GYY's Executive Director resigned today, unexpected. But, with the new director, maybe he will lure B6 and
146 Post contains images Indy : Well it is officially Friday. Who is the 2nd carrier?
147 Lowecur : That was a shock, but the job will be turned over to the guy who ran the everyday operations. I think I read his name is Curry. Also, bringing new ai
148 Post contains images Atrude777 : You mean 2nd airport/City? If there is one.... Alex
149 JetBluefan1 : I thought a second city was being announced today...did something change? (Or maybe it'll be announced later in the day) JetBluefan1
150 Post contains images SKYYBLUE : SXM SXM SXM SXM
151 B6DC10 : Not sure what's going on w/ the 2nd city. I have heard about CMH all week, but when I ask around about the other city, everyone shrugs their shoulders
152 Drnate00 : Im wondering where the Friday announcement is too!
153 Luv2fly : Same here where is that "reliable" source one has been quoting all along.
154 Drnate00 : Im starting to think that it was some sort of tease.
155 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : These threads always are. CMH was right but the poster always says reliable source but how reliable is it when it is Friday and nothing has been annou
156 Post contains links AvConsultant : Here is the CMH annoucement. On the first thread, I predicted this. I knew Dave Ulmer was a big fan of CMH during his DL and J7 days. Is it me, or is
157 Drnate00 : I agree. Maybe people should be more cautious when saying things that are going to happen when maybe they dont have all the facts or right informatio
158 B6767200 : Ok so it was announced Thur. instead of Fri. Whatever I predicted happened...
159 Post contains images Atrude777 : minus STL Alex
160 B6767200 : Thats was predicted as well....
161 Luv2fly : Half right or half wrong?
162 Luv2fly : Also the expression you are loking for is "LEAKED"
163 Post contains images Atrude777 : Half full or Half empty? Alex
164 Luv2fly : Let me guess your now Miss Cleo!
165 B6767200 : Hang me...I got the day wrong!
166 B6767200 : How did you know I got out last week!
167 Post contains images Atrude777 : and city too.. im sure STL will happen but we had it hoped for friday, oh well. Alex[Edited 2006-07-14 19:29:18]
168 Bigdrewfl : Well in the future you should NEVER state the name of the city, leave it up to pure speculation, Let us get the bang for our money (advertising money
169 JetBlueNYFL : People, please!!! That's what a rumor is - it is never 100% accurate until officially announced. So far, ruors here on a.net have been pretty accurat
170 ViperPilot : B676.....any idea of when the next city announcement might come and what that destination might be?
171 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : Not all of it, half of it and the half of it, one city was wrong by a day, so to me that isn't predicting it very well. Lol, 75% wrong. Yea but what
172 TWAL1011727 : Its time to lock this thread out and start thread # III/IV/V/VI/VII/VIII...etc.. KD MLB
173 LambertMan : B767, You can't leave the St. Louis kiddies hanging on this one. You've gone as far as to tell us that it will be announced, but what timetable are we
174 Luv2fly : Guys did you notice B6767200 has deleted?
175 Drnate00 : Hahaha...he deleted his account. Hopefully nothing happened[Edited 2006-07-15 01:15:04]
176 LambertMan : Wow, I didn't. I'm assuming he actually worked for JetBlue since he knew all that stuff, and I wonder if hes catching some heat somehow.
177 Daisywol : David and Dave made him an offer he couldnt refuse Seriously, he was a management stooge There are a lot of those around
178 J32driver : Wouldn't surprise me if it cost him his job. He is leaking private company information, probably from a computer in a JetBlue office. Theres probably
179 JerseyGuy : Ok so 2 more cities and Cancun. Any increased frequency or new routes between 2 existing BlueCities?
180 JetBlueNYFL : I would expect the usual increased frequency from NE to Florida for the winter and a few days ago someone on here noticed that BUF-MCO has a line bet
181 JetBluefan1 : I wouldn't be surprised either. People should keep their mouths shut until the press actually starts reporting something. Telling us valuable and top
182 InTheSky74 : Well, any growth in FLL would make me happy. I hope the BUF-MCO route is true.... I'd like to see more nonstops from FLL though. Rob
183 MAH4546 : They aren't in trouble. They just are experiencing high costs from an entire fleet renewal. When you switch from an all-MD80 fleet to an all-Airbus f
184 UN_B732 : BUF-MCO would be head to head competition with Southwest. VERY Exciting! -Mr. X
185 JetBluefan1 : Yep - but it would be the third route where they are head-to-head. Both also fly BUR-LAS and IAD-LAS (when WN starts service to IAD). JetBluefan1
186 Daisywol : A little birdie told me about hourly Buf-Roc now there is a rumor you all can run with
187 JetBlueNYFL : Agreed, but with $8 sale fares you definitely are bound to lose money. I'm just saying I read on another thread that Spirit might look into a possibl
188 MAH4546 : Have you tried booking those fares? They sell maybe 4-5 per flight. Yes, they will. The average age of Spirit fleet will be less than one year old.
189 JCS17 : Hourly BUF-ROC? You have got to be kidding me. On what? A Cessna 182?
190 JetBlueNYFL : Again, you are not taking into consideration the relatively small size of Spirit's fleet-to-be. JetBlue has over 100 aircraft in their fleet at an av
191 SKYYBLUE : It doesn't matter if Spirit has a fleet of 4 or 104...The actual average age will still be lower than B6. Five older jets that were probably delivere
192 JetBlueNYFL : Yes, of course that's the main reason for selling the planes...it is part of the RTP plan, but it still helps keep the overall average age down.
193 MAH4546 : Dude, it doesn't matter. As much as you would like to skew it in jetBlue's favour, the fact remains that in December 2006, Spirit will have the young
194 Lowecur : Actually, that won't last long if Virgin America gets off the ground in 2007. Then they will probably be eclipsed by the next startup. Does all this
195 Icebird757 : I wonder what this offer was?
196 Superfly : That doesn't seem to matter with OAK (Oakland, CA) and EWR (Newark, NJ). Those airports are in rough neighborhoods too and those airports are success
197 ASFlyer : Am I the ONLY one wondering what happened to this supposed announcement of a new city?
198 Post contains images Atrude777 : Nope, so am i Alex
199 Post contains images Steeler83 : Was this whole thread nothing more than a thread???
200 ASFlyer : Just a little something to get those that drink the blue juice a little riled up and excited.
201 Daisywol : amen to that we have to have a little fun at B6 we are too serious
202 Post contains images JetBlueAtJFK : Well I just noticed they announced BOS-RDU and I don't know if that was discussed because I am on vacation but could that be the rumor. They announced
203 ERJ170 : Tis true. Another first for B6.. announcing new service the same day as inagural service. And added rumor is RDU-MCO could be coming in the future (n
204 MAH4546 : I know RDU officials said it, but I don't expect it unless jetBlue does ridiculously well at RDU. Not with Southwest on the route.
205 ERJ170 : To be honest, I hope it isn't true either. We would do much better with a FLL and/or OAK flight than MCO.
206 PropilotJW : He shouldn't have been dishing out company information. He signed a confidentiality letter when he began and that is legally binding. Stupid is expen
207 RFDchairman : keep an eye out for RFD!
208 Iowaman : Welcome to a.net! A real airport chairman? Wow!
209 RFDchairman : Thanks for the welcome! Actually I am facinated and franky very impressed with all of the comment, conversation and information I have seen and observ
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