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Delta L-1011 Vs 727 Liveries  
User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6474 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3691 times:

Why were Delta's 727s painted in the 1997 and 2000 liveries, while the L-1011s were not? Delta announced plans to retire their 727s before the 1997 livery was introduced, originally intended to be replaced by the MD-90, and then the 737-800. I don't think it was worth the money to repaint the 727s.


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User currently offlineCanuckjetsettr From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3653 times:

I can only speculate...

1.Some of their 727's were going in for mtx checks, where more often than not, a/c are repainted due to the a/c being out of service anyway.

2. It cost's more to paint an L1011 than a 727.

When was the last L1011 flown for DL?


User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3637 times:

Quoting Canuckjetsettr (Reply 1):

When was the last L1011 flown for DL?

7/31/01



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User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3618 times:

DL had a target date to paint their entire fleet. After setting that date they decided to accelerate their 727 retirement. So some were painted because they were still going to be around up until 2008, I believe. However the L10 retirement had already been set prior to the 2000 livery change.


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User currently offlineDeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3738 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3541 times:

Weren't the L10s supposed to stay in the fleet until 2003 or 2005 at some point?

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User currently offlineL1011dal From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 137 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3315 times:

I don't recall the L10's being planned for 2003 or later since the 767-400's where coming online with basically the same capacity and longer range. Of course the maintenance and fuel efficiency of the 767-400's also offered lower operating cost.

Photos of Delta's retirement flights of L1011 and 727 are posted at

http://www.l1011.homestead.com/


User currently offlineCanuckjetsettr From Canada, joined Jun 2006, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3311 times:

That's an awesome site. Lot's of great pic's.

Thanks for the link, L1011dal!


User currently offlinePositiverate From United States of America, joined May 2005, 1590 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3164 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Thread starter):
Delta announced plans to retire their 727s before the 1997 livery was introduced, originally intended to be replaced by the MD-90, and then the 737-800. I don't think it was worth the money to repaint the 727s.

You keep saying the MD-90 was supposed to be a 727 replacement. It was not bought with that in mind.

As for why the airplanes were repainted, I would bet it has something to do with when the airplanes went in for their heavy checks.


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6474 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3159 times:

Quoting Positiverate (Reply 7):
You keep saying the MD-90 was supposed to be a 727 replacement. It was not bought with that in mind.

YES IT WAS! The MD-90 was indeed originally supposed to be Delta's 727 replacement. Delta had a large order for the MD-90. Due to the more frequent mechanical problems with the MD-90, the remaining orders were cancelled in favor of the 737-800.



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 8):

YES IT WAS! The MD-90 was indeed originally supposed to be Delta's 727 replacement. Delta had a large order for the MD-90. Due to the more frequent mechanical problems with the MD-90, the remaining orders were cancelled in favor of the 737-800.

The real answer is yes and no.....DL did place a large MD90 order and it was expected that as the MD90s were delivered, some older 72S aircraft were to be retired....but the MD90 was never "officially" thought of as the 72S replacement. Its all a word game, and in the end, things worked out very differently.

Also remember that Boeing's influence was the main reason that DL cancelled the bulk of its MD90 order .....Boeing had just acquired McD and was offering its 737NG and Delta moved along to the 738. The MD90 did get off to a difficult start but DL seems suprisingly happy with their small fleet of MD90s and finds them useful for certain routes out of SLC.


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