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Who's The Largest North American Carrier At LHR?  
User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 4642 times:

Just wondering which North American airline has the most presence at LHR?

Looks like AA or AC followed by UA....



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User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4603 times:

I would Guess AA with flight from LAX, MIA, JFK, ORD, DFW

AC to LHR... YVR,YYC,YOW,YUL(2) , YYZ(3), YHZ but frequency is not there


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7934 posts, RR: 54
Reply 2, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4596 times:

Quoting YULYMX (Reply 1):
YVR,YYC,YOW,YUL(2) , YYZ(3), YHZ but frequency is not there

Are you kidding? Five a day to YYZ - now that's what I call frequency. I think Air Canada have 12 (or 13?) flights a day from LHR. Which puts them second behind American. United are woeful underachievers at LHR, only one JFK-LHR flight next to AA's 5 or 6 and BA's 10.



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User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

Fenquency not there compare to AA with all those B777 From JFK, ORD and MIA...

User currently offlineFraT From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 1101 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

AA currently has 16 daily flights (5 x ORD, 5 x JFK, 2 x LAX, 2 x MIA, DFW and RDU) whereas AC has 13 daily flights (5 x YYZ, 2 x YUL, 2 x YYC, 2 x YVR, YOW and YYT).

User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

AC is peaking during summer to LHR...in winter months the frequency is less

User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3070 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4550 times:

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 2):
United are woeful underachievers at LHR, only one JFK-LHR

Surely UA would have more flights from LHR.....any pics of LHR always show multiple UA aircraft at the terminal....


User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2848 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4513 times:

Quoting FraT (Reply 4):
AA currently has 16 daily flights (5 x ORD, 5 x JFK, 2 x LAX, 2 x MIA, DFW and RDU)

You're right and wrong.
You're right about 16 flights per day. BUT you're wrong about DFW and RDU because both connect at JFK.

JFK (5 flights) - 142, 100, 104, 132, 116
MIA (2 flights) - 182, 056
ORD (5 fkights)- 090, 086, 066, 046, 098
LAX (2 flights) - 136, 134
BOS (2 flights) - 156- 108

TOTAL 16


United opertates 10 flights:
2- ORD
2- JFK
2- IAD
3-SFO
1-LAX


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User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4513 times:

UA to LHR... ORD, IAD, SFO? DEN? lax?

User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4499 times:

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 6):
Surely UA would have more flights from LHR.....any pics of LHR always show multiple UA aircraft at the terminal....

UA has something like 1xJFK, 2xLAX, 2x SFO, 3xORD and 4xIAD - 12 flights daily unless i've missed some. They did have more daily slots at LHR but sold some of them off to other carriers. I suspect that's why some of the JFK flights disappeared as I'm sure they used to have more than one a day...



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User currently offlinePNQIAD From India, joined May 2006, 585 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4483 times:

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 7):
United opertates 10 flights:
2- ORD
2- JFK
2- IAD
3-SFO
1-LAX

I believe currently UA has

3 ORD
4 IAD
2 SFO
2 LAX
1 JFK


User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1736 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4455 times:

AA:
JFK:6
ORD:5
BOS:2
LAX:2
MIA:1

Total: 15 flights
Note SA)">AA reduces JFK-LHR to 5 flights on Saturday. With this free slot, they operate a second service to MIA, from LHR SA only.

UA:
IAD: 4
ORD:3
LAX:2
SFO:2
JFK:1

Total: 12 flights



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User currently offlineANother From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4455 times:

Largest means?

Most # of flights?
Most # of seats?
Most # of (non-stop) destinations?
Most # of (single flight number) destinations?
Most # of (connections) destinations?
etc.


User currently offlineFraT From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 1101 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4390 times:

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 7):
You're right and wrong.
You're right about 16 flights per day. BUT you're wrong about DFW and RDU because both connect at JFK.

OK, I just saw, that the nonstop flight to RDU is from Gatwick.
Cheers!


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4390 times:

It looks like AA with all those 777 flights probably offers the most seats.

5 to YYZ, wholly s****. Now that's service.

Did AC ever flight the 747 to LHR?


User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4374 times:

Quoting Juventus (Reply 14):
Did AC ever flight the 747 to LHR?

Yes - regularly on the YYZ service.



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User currently offlineBriboy From Canada, joined Jul 2001, 358 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 4274 times:

Quoting ANother (Reply 12):
Largest means?

Most # of flights?
Most # of seats?
Most # of (non-stop) destinations?
Most # of (single flight number) destinations?
Most # of (connections) destinations?
etc.

I can't comment on all of this, but a quick and dirty calculation based on *todays* schedule shows:

UA, 12 flights, 2990 seats (777 258 seats, 763 193 seats, 744 347 seats)

ORD 3x777
LAX 1x763, 1x777
JFK 1x777
SFO 1x744, 1x777
IAD 2x763, 1x777

AC, 13 flights, 3135 seats (762 207 seats, 763 212 seats, 333 274 seats, 343 286 seats)
YYC 1x333, 1x763
YUL 2x763
YOW 1x763
YYT 1x763
YYZ 1x763, 1x762, 2x333, 1x343
YVR 2x333

AA, 16 flights, 3584 seats (777 224 seats -- I don't know which 777 seat map is used on trans-atlantic, so this number may be higher)
BOS 2x777
ORD 5x777
LAX 2x777
MIA 1x777
JFK 6x777

As I said, quick and dirty, and shows todays non stop flights.

[Edited 2006-07-14 16:29:49]


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User currently offlineFlyMIA From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7006 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4165 times:

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 7):
You're right and wrong.
You're right about 16 flights per day. BUT you're wrong about DFW and RDU because both connect at JFK

Connect at JFK? The DFW and RDU is non-stop to LGW sinc DFW and RDU are not allowed to have LHR flights.



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User currently offlineTinPusher007 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 966 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4153 times:

I have a question...why is American offering more seats out of both LAX and ORD than UA? ORD is supposed to be United's biggest hub and AA utterly dominates on ORD-LHR.


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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 4113 times:

Quoting TinPusher007 (Reply 18):
I have a question...why is American offering more seats out of both LAX and ORD than UA? ORD is supposed to be United's biggest hub and AA utterly dominates on ORD-LHR.

Because AA has the oneworld connection with BA in London. UA, which doesn't have a European presence like AA in the first place, routes much of its connecting traffic in Europe through LH's Star Alliance hub at FRA.



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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 8187 posts, RR: 54
Reply 20, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 4078 times:

Quoting TinPusher007 (Reply 18):
I have a question...why is American offering more seats out of both LAX and ORD than UA? ORD is supposed to be United's biggest hub and AA utterly dominates on ORD-LHR.

don't forget that LHR is AA's oneworld partner BA's main hub - so it make sense for AA to have plenty of capacity on this route.

While BD is obviously a Star partner it doesn't offer a smany connections in europe as LH, therefore I suspect if you look at ORD-FRA UA will be pretty strong on this route.



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User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2848 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3712 times:

Quoting FlyMIA (Reply 17):
Connect at JFK? The DFW and RDU is non-stop to LGW sinc DFW and RDU are not allowed to have LHR flights.

Yes, flights from RDU and DFW to LHR connect at JFK... i wasn't talking about LGW.


User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9378 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 3668 times:

Quoting TinPusher007 (Reply 18):
I have a question...why is American offering more seats out of both LAX and ORD than UA? ORD is supposed to be United's biggest hub and AA utterly dominates on ORD-LHR.

If you take away connections I would think that UA and AA carry about the same number of O/D passengers to LHR. AA uses BA for connections in Europe. UA uses LH. United has a good number of flights into Frankfurt for connections and additionally UA and LH codeshare on all transatlantic flights (which BA and AA are prohibited from doing), so UA can put passengers on LH metal across the Atlantic. UA and AA are both big in Europe, but alliance partners make them a lot more different. Meanwhile CO and DL are flying to many more destinations nonstop and not using alliance partners for connections within Europe as much.



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User currently offlineBoeingfanyyz From Canada, joined Jul 2005, 991 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (7 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3575 times:

Definately AC. Being the number one airline in 05, AC has mastered the art of supply and demand.

On a really random note, when I flew out of LHR a few weeks past, I noticed a/c making sharp turns to the right, being perpendicular to the t/o runway within one minute. Is this standard noise abaitment or was it for Wimbledon?

On another really random note, I am posting this from my blackberry so could y'alls tell me if she turns out OK!?

Cheers,
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