BMED From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Dec 2004, 823 posts, RR: 4 Posted (2 years 12 months 8 hours ago) and read 1469 times:
Just an up date but bmi regional are seeking cabin crew for their southampton base and also Manchester. I wouldn't have thought that Southampton would be to exciting in terms of routes seen as the airline only flys 1 route.
Touch galley, touch trolley...see how many times you can do that without serving anybody whatsoever
Sorry for asking, but I don't have a very good knowledge of BD's regional network. What is this route that it flies to Southampton? Is it from Manchester? Is it on a E145?
Donder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6654 posts, RR: 25 Reply 5, posted (2 years 12 months 7 hours ago) and read 1425 times:
For years the SOU-AMS route has only had Scot Airways operating the route.Soon there will be 3!I'd be surprised if Bmi stayed on the route for long,if they actually start it at all( a la LTN-BRU).
Zkojh From China, joined Sep 2004, 757 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (2 years 12 months 5 hours ago) and read 1281 times:
'what is bmi's strategy'
well that is a good quest
not sure they know themselves!! are the going to be an LCC,(bmi baby) or a full service airline?! (BMI International) or the other one regional which is operated by EMB 135 and 45's,
there main goal is to fly to JFK from LHR plus 12 other US destinations, tho Bermuda 2 ' stops that, so they are just trying to open up any market possible (Moscow this week)
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Horus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 76 Reply 9, posted (2 years 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 1230 times:
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Quoting BMED (Thread starter): I wouldn't have thought that Southampton would be to exciting in terms of routes seen as the airline only flys 1 route.
The plan is for 2-3 new European routes from SOU by S07.
Quoting Planemanofnz (Reply 3): Sorry for asking, but I don't have a very good knowledge of BD's regional network. What is this route that it flies to Southampton? Is it from Manchester? Is it on a E145?
The airline will launch 4x daily* SOU-AMS-SOU flights from 29/10/06. The E145 will be used on BD511/513/515/517.
*schedules during the weekend are reduced.
Quoting Orlando666 (Reply 6): what is bmi's strategy/policy? really unclear.
Though I must admit bmi's plans have been a tad incoherent in the past, they are now trying to expand services out of their current 'niche' markets and destinations.
Horus
Quoting Zkojh (Reply 7): not sure they know themselves!! are the going to be an LCC,(bmi baby) or a full service airline?! (BMI International) or the other one regional which is operated by EMB 135 and 45's,
There strategy seems quite straightforward. They have 2 subsidiaries serving different markets. bmi mainline (there's no international in the name) serves the core market out of LHR to domestic, European and intercontinental destinations (as well as long haul from MAN). bmi Regional serves the smaller routes/flights and niche markets. bmi Baby is a low cost subsidiary with it's biggest bases in BHX and EMA. bmi is not the only international airline to have regional and low cost subsidiaries operating alongside their mainline services. They have a different business model for each market. Any overlapping becomes beneficial to the consumer (e.g. 'tiny fares' offered by bmibaby being also offered on a limited number of seats on bmi mainline flights).
Quoting Zkojh (Reply 7):
there main goal is to fly to JFK from LHR plus 12 other US destinations, tho Bermuda 2 ' stops that
Indeed the airline has been pushing for changes to the BII agreement to allow it access to the LHR-US market. 12 destinations is an ambitious, long term plan so don't expect to see all 12 new destinations coming online within the next 5 years.
Quoting Zkojh (Reply 7): so they are just trying to open up any market possible (Moscow this week)
Not 'any' market, but those that could sustain high yields. There is talk of a shift from short to medium haul flights for their next phase of expansion to include destinations in the Mediterranean and the Middle East (ATH, IST, LCA, CAI, DMM, AUH/DXB).
Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4236 posts, RR: 7 Reply 10, posted (2 years 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 1216 times:
Quoting Horus (Reply 9): Quoting BMED (Thread starter):
I wouldn't have thought that Southampton would be to exciting in terms of routes seen as the airline only flys 1 route.
The plan is for 2-3 new European routes from SOU by S07.
What a bad timing to launch these flights just as Flybe are launchng city destinations from SOU. A year or so ago and Flybe were concenraing on leisure destinations and bmi might have got themselves established at SOU. But with Flybe expanding into the European city market they will find it hard. I hope if they do expand they will concentrate on Star Alliance hubs (MUC, ZRH, CPH, FRA) as at least they will be able to offer connections Flybe can't
But in my opinion bmi just scrap SOU-AMS and start EDI-MUC!!!
Horus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 76 Reply 11, posted (2 years 12 months 3 hours ago) and read 1204 times:
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Humberside, forward bookings on the AMS route are 'encouraging' considering it's still months before flights start. I'd say the SOU-AMS route (despite the competition) is far larger and higher yielding than EDI-MUC.
Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4236 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (2 years 12 months 2 hours ago) and read 1190 times:
Quoting Horus (Reply 11): Humberside, forward bookings on the AMS route are 'encouraging' considering it's still months before flights start.
That is surprising. I guess Flybe are doing well so could Scot Airways be forced of SOU-AMS. Tthey surely can't be room for three airlines on the route
Horus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 76 Reply 13, posted (2 years 12 months 2 hours ago) and read 1183 times:
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Quoting Humberside (Reply 12):
That is surprising. I guess Flybe are doing well so could Scot Airways be forced of SOU-AMS. Tthey surely can't be room for three airlines on the route
Corporate contracts with companies can be the make or break on this route.
BMIE70 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 106 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (2 years 12 months ago) and read 1105 times:
Quoting Horus (Reply 9): The plan is for 2-3 new European routes from SOU by S07.
With the Americas Cup in Valencia next year and the large number of marine businesses and professional sailors based on the south coast, then a route to VLC would be a good idea though they'll need be quick. NCE might be worthwhile for similar reasons.
Quoting Humberside (Reply 10): I hope if they do expand they will concentrate on Star Alliance hubs (MUC, ZRH, CPH, FRA) as at least they will be able to offer connections Flybe can't
This would be good as well but given that this is BD it might be too much joined-up-thinking.
All-in-all I just hope that BD can be successful and last at SOU.
Humberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4236 posts, RR: 7 Reply 16, posted (2 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1042 times:
No but Im sure you remember it being launched last year and then not happenning. It would have the benefit of connections at MUC and would link one of Germany's largest cities to Scotland's capital. There would be business and leisure traffic between EDI and MUC. And no direct competition. It should also qualify for Scottish Executive route development funding. At the time is was launched it was widely regarded as a very sensible decision by bmi
Flycro From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 292 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 850 times:
FRA, MUC and CPH would be great routes from SOU. When BE first turned up they promised BCN and NCE (yet nothing hapened) so perhaps these routes would be of interest to BD with a 40-50 setaer aircraft?
757lgw From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 151 posts, RR: 3 Reply 18, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 835 times:
where are bmi advertising the jobs because i cant find it on the website and yes i would think that flybe would do well will bcn and nce but instead they choose some places in france most people have never heard of , i think the airline is struggling with its cherbourg route.
A340600 From United Kingdom (England), joined Aug 2003, 3973 posts, RR: 57 Reply 19, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 821 times:
Quoting 757lgw (Reply 18): where are bmi advertising the jobs because i cant find it on the website and yes i would think that flybe would do well will bcn and nce but instead they choose some places in france most people have never heard of , i think the airline is struggling with its cherbourg route.
I saw the ad in the AviationJobsearch newspaper that is given out at my local station
Sam
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Flycro From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 292 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 747 times:
Quoting 757lgw (Reply 18): i think the airline is struggling with its cherbourg route.
Not surprising that Cherbourg is a struggler, it only lasted two weeks last year and can't believe it came back this summer. With BE now going into the city market, such as HAJ and DUS perhaps NCE and BCN really will turn up, those two airports seem to be a LCC essential?
BMED From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Dec 2004, 823 posts, RR: 4 Reply 21, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 679 times:
7LBAC111 From United Kingdom (Northern Ireland), joined Jul 2004, 2556 posts, RR: 54 Reply 22, posted (2 years 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 678 times:
Quoting Horus (Reply 11): forward bookings on the AMS route are 'encouraging'
Yes but with a 40 seater aircraft, thats not too hard is it? Lets see what yield there is in thos forward bookings. Considering fares are leading in at £48.00 return (excl tax), they will depend on the
Quoting Horus (Reply 13): Corporate contracts with companies can be the make or break on this route.
But, from what I'm seeing, those corporates are turning away from BMI in their droves.
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