ABQopsHP From United States of America, joined May 2006, 870 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 9517 times:
Well I guess I better contact my friends at NW in ABQ, and find out what they are going to do. I wish all NW ground staff at these stations good luck. Outsourcing.....is wrong wrong wrong....but thats my opinion.
Ejmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9223 times:
Quoting Burnsie28 (Reply 7): GSO has NW employee's of some sort, otherwise it wouldnt be on the list.
The CSR's at GSO are full NW employees, and very nice people at that. However, NW hasn't had a mainline jet into GSO in almost a year. It is hard to keep staffing express stations with full-pay mainline employees when your competitors are staffing them with lowly-paid express employess.
"If the facts do not conform to the theory, they will have to be disposed of"
AZFlyer84 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 107 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 9168 times:
Outsourcing in such a huge manner is never a good situation, you always save money, but service is a huge factor. It depends on the situation though, if you are merely replacing express people with stations that just have express, there are few problems. But if you contract out to another carrier, problems occur. The lack of care for the customers and procedures will come into conflict. Basically NW keeps heading down the way to chapter 7. I really hoped the management team wouldn't outsource, but they did, and with this goes morale, and with morale goes the airline. Let's hope that our fellow airline friends can find new jobs, maybe a new airline. But for many a end of such a great career. Best luck to the future of NW and its' great people who have stood by its' side for so many years.
Flyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 9049 times:
UA in TUS is supposed to have gotten the contract...I know that we at US bid for it but it involved using their existing ticket counter and gates. UA submitted a bid that would allow NW to give back the counter and gates. Last I heard there was a problem with the union though, both airlines use the same one and UA would be considered scabs or something like that. Great bunch of people we have in TUS...many have been there for literally decades. It's very sad.
GSO,IND & COS are on the chopping block..RFPs are due on monday, would bet that SKYWEST will bid on cos as they have a crew and mx base there...chautauqua in my opinion would want ind..iirc arent they hq there???
bus driver.......move that bus:)
: I don't think they have any ground crew employees. GSO would not suprise me as I transferred out right after 9/11 thinking express would take over. T
: It is a sad day with the airlines once again. Many good people will loose their jobs and maybe everything they have worked so hard for. Looks like a g
: This is the first I have heard of this. Well this sucks. I know some of these stations are down to one mainline a day. We, here in PDX are keeping ou
: I am not suprised to see TUS on the list...with one flight a day, two during the winter months. US does the ground work for CO if I am not mistaken. S
: Does "outsourcing" at stations out of reach of the likes of ZW and XJ (SJC, SAN etc) necessarily mean that other airlines will handle NW? I ask becaus
: This is not good.... What about TOL... Are they express employees or main line? Chuck
: Really, one of the worst things going on here -- high seniority keeps your job, so it doesn't matter if your station is going away or staying. If you
: TOL is currently a Mesaba station. That is true, high senority can bump lower senority at other stations. The question becomes how many people are wil
: So what does that have to do with anything? All they would have do do is go back and forth between terminals. And if there were same general flight t
: Wow this is just a crime. I feel soo bad for the NW employees. How many stations will remain with NW employees? What is the criteria for a station to
: I saw the ad in the paper last weekend for ramp workers here in AUS - $8.50 an hour to start! What a deal - if I can overtime and work 80 hours a week
: How is NW to work with? I ask this question because, here in SAV NW was staffed by NW employees. Then they went to all Airlink flights, and were outso
: About 40 stations will remain with NW employees. The criteria being the station had to have 50 or more mainline flights per week. So roughly 5-6 daily
: I don't know about US, but as far as CO goes, there really isn't much of a difference between CO employees and ExpressJet employees, at least those t
: Burnsie .. What is your source. No. I'm not doubting you in the least. In fact, I've been waiting to see how NW employees would find out first, from N
: CO and DL are already outsourced at SAN. A company named GAT does their ramp. I've heard ATS (another contact company) might pick up the NW contract.
: Don't know about COS and GSO but its highy unlikely that the crew here will be outsourced. IND is NW's 4th largest domestic operation. Back on the 13
: Well, as a current Aramark employee who does Delta, Spirit, and helps NW, and I will be going to DTW on wen for the physical to work directly for NW,
: Actually, the new contract states that the remaining stations MAY go as high as 50% PT depending on operational viability. Supposedly MEM ramp has bee
: May go? So its not definate? Thats not what the guys here have told me, but there is only six of them, so they may be a little out of the loop. That
: Oh no kidding! The CSR's in IAH are pretty miserable too...I've been treated so poorly as a nonrev by them countless times. The mainline FA's I think
: And there goes NW's customer service...right down the shitta!
: One thing that comes to mind is the rumored BDL-AMS. BDL has 48-49 weekly mainline flights (just below the threshold). I would imagine if they were go
: Well, the jury(that's the users of NW) hasn't convened yet. Clients of NW who use the carrier at least once a month will make that call early next ye
: Mesaba handles int'l flights now at DTW and MSP. Canada is still intl, right? Procedures are already in place, just needs to go to a larger scale. FW
: When are airlines going to realize that outsourcing does not work? Notice USAirways for example. They did outsource much of their work, but since Park
: Swissair did a great job at LGW when I was there earlier this month. not all outsourcing means the service level will drop. If you use a good company
: I agree with what your saying. However, as long as you have people willing to drive all the way out to the airport to work for $7-$9 an hour with lit
: Like I said at the top.....outsourcing is wrong. If you recall in the mid 90s CO/HP had the synergy thing going. Some HP employees would go out of the
: Exactly which outsourced fleet service (ramp) stations has Parker insourced? (Hint: it's none.)
: Parker hasn't to my knowledge insourced any new fleet service, but he certainly has brought steadily more and more reservations back inhouse. He speci