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DL Reduces ATL-EDI This Winter 5X Weekly  
User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1361 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3847 times:

Looks like DL will do (hopefully) just a seasonal reduction in service to EDI this winter. Looks like the flight will operate on Sun, Mon, Wed, Thu, & Fri. This is a great flight for Scotland and I hope it continues to perform for DL. I have flown on this flight and it was full both ways. Flights this week alone have been oversold and it looks like the bookings for the rest of the summer season looks strong! Good luck DL, just bring ATL-GLA NEXT!!!!


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User currently offlineSLCUT2777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 4136 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3831 times:

Quoting AV8AJET (Thread starter):
Looks like DL will do (hopefully) just a seasonal reduction in service to EDI this winter. Looks like the flight will operate on Sun, Mon, Wed, Thu, & Fri. This is a great flight for Scotland and I hope it continues to perform for DL. I have flown on this flight and it was full both ways. Flights this week alone have been oversold and it looks like the bookings for the rest of the summer season looks strong! Good luck DL, just bring ATL-GLA NEXT!!!!

Bring on the ex-TWA AA 752s! They should work on such a route!



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User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3815 times:

Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 1):
Bring on the ex-TWA AA 752s! They should work on such a route!

Boy I hope not!!! I like the widebody 763 for this route! If DL were to change it to the 752 it would have to switch the service to JFK (No thanks!!!). I'll take the 5X weekly from ATL over daily 752 from JFK!



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User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3795 times:

This should really be no surprise. A lot of DL's European networks do not operate daily in the winter. In fact, I am surprised it is not 3x or 4x.


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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3689 times:

Quoting B4real (Reply 3):
In fact, I am surprised it is not 3x or 4x.

Indeed. But the schedule is not fully finalised yet, as I can't imagine DL would keep ATL-EDI at 5x weekly, when routes like JFK-ATH/IST only have 3-4x weekly service.


User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8625 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3685 times:
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Quoting SLCUT2777 (Reply 1):
Bring on the ex-TWA AA 752s! They should work on such a route!

I can't see the 757s on ATL-EDI - leaving aside the question of whether pax want to be on a narrowbody for that length of time - I dont think that those a/c have the 'legs' to do the sector ...anybody know for sure



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User currently offlineGokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1125 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3631 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 4):
ndeed. But the schedule is not fully finalised yet, as I can't imagine DL would keep ATL-EDI at 5x weekly, when routes like JFK-ATH/IST only have 3-4x weekly service.

Hi DAL767400ER, is there any word on the winter frequency of JFK-IST? Going daily at last?



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User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4971 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3516 times:
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Quoting Gokmengs (Reply 6):
Hi DAL767400ER, is there any word on the winter frequency of JFK-IST? Going daily at last?

No, JFK-IST will be 4x weekly this winter.

Quoting AV8AJET (Thread starter):
Looks like DL will do (hopefully) just a seasonal reduction in service to EDI this winter

This seasonal reduction has been in the schedule since the beginning of the service; it was never intended to operate daily in the winter. That being said, I won't be surprised if it gets further reduced during the deep winter period when transatlantic travel is at its lowest level (late January/early Feb) if the subsidies deal with the Scots allow it.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33272 posts, RR: 71
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

A lot of routes will be reduced to 4-5x weekly, including some that haven't before, like ATL-MAD. ATL-CPH and ATL-DUS are also reduced.


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User currently offlineWorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

I believe DL has some marketing support on ATL-EDI in which some Scottish group is requiring that DL maintain a certain level of ops through the winter in order to get the money. If true, DL is probably operating the flight more than it otherwise would but is obviously getting financial support that offsets if not surpasses the increased costs through the winter.

ATL-CPH and -DUS are both new routes so there is no precedent for how they will be operated during the winter.

ATL-MAD might be reduced more than usual because JFK-MAD and JFK-BCN will remain as separate flights through the winter while they have been joined together as a wrap around flight in the past.


User currently offlineScottishLaddie From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 2386 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3327 times:

This has been on the cards for a while.

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 9):
believe DL has some marketing support on ATL-EDI in which some Scottish group is requiring that DL maintain a certain level of ops through the winter in order to get the money. If true, DL is probably operating the flight more than it otherwise would but is obviously getting financial support that offsets if not surpasses the increased costs through the winter.

Indeed, but the requirement is a minimum of 3x weekly year round, although if I remember rightly CO operated 5x weekly during their first winter at EDI having also received funding.

CAA provisional stats show an average load factor of 79% for the route in June, EDI's cargo figures rocketed in June too so I presume it is carrying a fair bit of cargo, it certainly looks to be from the few times I've seen them off-loading it.


User currently offlineDLBOIFIN From Finland, joined Jun 2006, 167 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3288 times:

Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 9):
ATL-CPH and -DUS are both new routes so there is no precedent for how they will be operated during the winter.

Same thing when DL used to have service to ARN; there was reduced service during the winter months. I think it is very vise decision as the demand from Scandinavia to the USA is not so high during the winter. 5 x week is ideal as it still can be marketed as daily service ( D x 2/6 for CPH).


User currently offlinePanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4971 posts, RR: 25
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 3192 times:
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Quoting WorldTraveler (Reply 9):
ATL-MAD might be reduced more than usual because JFK-MAD and JFK-BCN will remain as separate flights through the winter while they have been joined together as a wrap around flight in the past.

Yes, overall, DL's US-Spain capacity this winter will be up slightly compared to last year, with 15 weeklies each way (5x weekly each for ATL-MAD, JFK-MAD, JFK-BCN) versus 14 last year (7x ATL-MAD and 7x JFK-BCN-MAD-JFK)


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