Pbottenb From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 431 posts, RR: 1 Posted (7 years 4 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2772 times:
Just talked with some folks fighting the big fires in San Bernardino County today and they tell me that a DC 10 is going to be flying out of the US Forest Service Fire Tanker Base at SBD today. I was there yesterday and took some pictures of the Orions and Neptunes. If I can verify and get a picture of the DC10 I'll try to upload it...
SJC-Alien From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 919 posts, RR: 1 Reply 5, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2363 times:
....'Bout time...............all they have to do is fly by at level flight just high enough not to kill anybody below, and make it rain!!!!...
Laugh at me know.....but why can't they use A-10 Warthogs, with minimal impact bombs, and crater the leading edge of the fires enough to thwart the rush of the fire, creating huge holes of dirt, in the fire line advance - I think it should be tried, as what else can they do...? Any experts out there that have thought of the same thing....? All it would take would be the top of a ridge-or just below- maybe 3-4 times, to cascade the dirt down the hill back towards the fire at strategic locations at the front of the fire.....it would eliminate most of the vegetation - then the Air tankers might be able to knock it down....until the hand crews can contain it............
FCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6 Reply 6, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2350 times:
Quoting SJC-Alien (Reply 5): Laugh at me know.....but why can't they use A-10 Warthogs, with minimal impact bombs, and crater the leading edge of the fires enough to thwart the rush of the fire, creating huge holes of dirt,
And if a few of the bombs are duds, you've then got a bunch of UXO scattered around for the firefighters to deal with.
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SJC-Alien From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 919 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2207 times:
....only a few should be dropped anyways, I didn't say drop a 1,000 bombs. Military ordanance people can attend and help out.... it's not like the fire scene would be littered with UXO, so I don't see it as a problem. Besides, if the FD's are anywhere keen to 'training' their FF's, then they know to look out for them...and not walk up and hit it with an axe.
I think it should be done - one well placed air drop would definetly alter the vegetation that is burning. One thing for certain, the nay-sayers will debunk it because it's 'out of the box' thinking.
ONTFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 378 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 1752 times:
I am on a 48 hour break having just returned home from 4 straight days on the Millard fire which has since merged together with the Sawtooth fire. I can confirm that a DC-10 was used as it flew over my crew's and my own head at a low altitude and speed. I don't have any more specifics as to the exact drop location as we were busy dealing with structure protection at the time. Just wanted to let you know my observations from the front lines. Whatever your religious point of view may be, I ask for your thoughts for those still on the firelines and pray that the forecasted lighting storms for this afternoon do not materialize as that will create a whole nother set of issues. And that the temps. and winds relent soon. Thanks in advance. And now it's time for a long nap...Take care.