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B6 To MIA Announcement July 21?  
User currently offlineFLAIRPORT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3569 times:

according to wikipedia...someone pulling our leg?

On July 21, 2006 they will announce their single largest new city expansion, Miami, Florida.

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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3569 times:

Did Miss Cleo post that on Wikipedia?


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1308 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3546 times:

If they do, it'd be a shock to most of us, I'm sure. Last I heard, MCO was going to be our Florida focus. I guess time will tell


Fierce, Fabulous, and Flawless ;)
User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2972 posts, RR: 14
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3536 times:

Highly doubt it. There's already a lot of announced expansion - someone probably posted false facts on Wikipedia. Such rumors aren't new, either.

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineB752OS From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1322 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3515 times:

Quoting FLAIRPORT (Thread starter):
On July 21, 2006 they will announce their single largest new city expansion, Miami, Florida.

I am just wondering why it is being called their single largest new city expansion?


User currently offlineB6sea From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 340 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3499 times:

What a coincidence, NW is selling their DC9 fleet, DL and AA are merging and buying 100 A350s, CO is also buying A350s just for the hell of it, and UA LH are both installing ptvs on all their aircraft ON THE SAME DAY!!!!

-Chans

[Edited 2006-07-17 00:45:47]

User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2972 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3461 times:

Quoting B6sea (Reply 5):
What a coincidence, SA)">NW is selling their DC9 fleet, SA)">DL and SA)">AA are merging and buying 100 A350s, SA)">CO is also buying A350s just for the hell of it, and SA)">UA LH are both installing ptvs on all their aircraft ON THE SAME DAY!!!!

Really?

No, j/k of course lol. I guess this pretty much confirms that the July 21st "announcement" is completely fake.

Though I wish it weren't...

JetBluefan1



Most people on a.net hate JetBlue. Get used to it.
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32624 posts, RR: 72
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3424 times:

There will be no announcement for jetBlue at MIA this week. I wouldn't rule out an announcement this year, but definitley not this week.

Quoting NASBWI (Reply 2):
If they do, it'd be a shock to most of us, I'm sure. Last I heard, MCO was going to be our Florida focus. I guess time will tell

Definitley not if jetBlue gets the gates at FLL that they want.

Quoting B752OS (Reply 4):
I am just wondering why it is being called their single largest new city expansion?

Probably because many rumours have talked about how jetBlue plans to open up MIA in the same way they opened up Boston, with a large amount of markets. Though there certainly will not be an MIA announcement this week, and nothing will happen until MIA announces their new usage fees for Concourse F and G.

[Edited 2006-07-17 01:12:11]


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

Quoting FLAIRPORT (Thread starter):
according to wikipedia...

This seems to be the problem.......last week, JetBlue was adding Atlantic City to its route network, and before that is was Victoria, BC.


User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3337 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
Probably because many rumours have talked about how jetBlue plans to open up MIA in the same way they opened up Boston, with a large amount of markets.

Actually from what I hear B6 will announce the cities in Florida they do not presently serve, yet are served by DL. Start dates are supposed to be in FEB06. Look for MIA, PNS, DAB and MLB. I don't really like to comment on rumors, but this one seems legit from what I have heard.



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User currently offlineKimmykun From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 445 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3277 times:

The problem with Wikipedia is that anyone can edit it and so it's easy to vandalize. Eventually vandalism is reverted, but sometimes it takes a couple days before someone catches it and it just starts rumors. So, never go by what Wikipedia says.

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3266 times:

I am sure FLL will do what it takes to keep B6 happy and content in FLL.


You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32624 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3251 times:

Quoting DeltaMIA (Reply 9):
Actually from what I hear B6 will announce the cities in Florida they do not presently serve, yet are served by DL. Start dates are supposed to be in FEB06. Look for MIA, PNS, DAB and MLB. I don't really like to comment on rumors, but this one seems legit from what I have heard.

I have heard MIA, DAB, and MLB. I have heard nothing of PNS, interesting. It could be a good market for a daily E90 to JFK.

The FEB07 start date for MIA would make perfect sense, because that is when Concourse J opens and jetBlue would be able to move into F/G.

Quoting Luv2fly (Reply 11):
I am sure FLL will do what it takes to keep B6 happy and content in FLL.

Easier said than done. FLL can't just pull another 3-4 gates out of the ground. jetBlue has been asking for more gates for three years and FLL has done nothing. Not because they don't want to, they do, but because they simply can't.

[Edited 2006-07-17 02:41:39]


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User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3157 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 12):
Easier said than done. FLL can't just pull another 3-4 gates out of the ground. jetBlue has been asking for more gates for three years and FLL has done nothing. Not because they don't want to, they do, but because they simply can't.

Look how long it took Frontier to get more gates at DIA and in the end they did, same will happen in FLL.



You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineUsairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3396 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3104 times:

When B6 does enter the MIA market, will it be just some flts to the big B6 cities or will it essentially take the place of the FLL focus city? Does it depend on whether B6 gets more gates in FLL or will B6 keep all of FLL's current operations and essentially have focus cities in both FLL and MIA?

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12090 posts, RR: 49
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3065 times:

Quoting Usairways85 (Reply 14):
When B6 does enter the MIA market, will it be just some flts to the big B6 cities or will it essentially take the place of the FLL focus city? Does it depend on whether B6 gets more gates in FLL or will B6 keep all of FLL's current operations and essentially have focus cities in both FLL and MIA?

IMHO - I would be surprised to see them in MIA earlier than 2008!



You can cut the irony with a knife
User currently offlineKenMIA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 3023 times:

Some time in '05 wasn't there talk of a B6 operation at MIA commencing in early '06? If so, where along the way did that get derailed?

User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2911 times:

Quoting KenMIA (Reply 16):
Some time in '05 wasn't there talk of a B6 operation at MIA commencing in early '06? If so, where along the way did that get derailed?

I don't really know where it went off but I remember the talks. But also when they were announcing the BOS expansion everyone thought that would be MIA, then some stuff surfaced back in 05 and now it is coming up again. Who really knows when all this will start. I am hoping for a PNS flight, that would make me very happy. Also DAB MLB would be very great additions. If EYW could handle it they should send about 2 190's to EYW seasonal service though since I think EYW has some off periods.

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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8664 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 2884 times:

I just applied for a part-time Customer Service Crew position @ MCO. If they come to MLB, I'm applying for everything there is. MLB is my location, but I commute thru Orlando to Ocala quite a bit.

Btw,

I thought there is a restrction on slots out of FLL. I know B6 is big in MCO. I hope they make a base out here. If FLL cant do, look for MCO to be the focus city.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineJetBluefan1 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2972 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2861 times:

Quoting MCOflyer (Reply 18):
I thought there is a restrction on slots out of FLL.

The FAA was seriously considering making FLL a slot-restricted airport a few years ago due to congestion and high amounts of delays. However, within the last year, congestion has decreased and delays have dropped as a result.

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 7):
Definitley not if jetBlue gets the gates at FLL that they want.

Where are the prospective gates? Also, which other airlines are "competing" for them and how likely do you think it is that JetBlue will receive them?

Has anyone wondered why neither CO nor NW haven't moved their operations into Terminal D with Delta? They all have codeshare agreements and it seems (to me at least) that the Delta terminal is underused. By doing so, a couple of gates in Terminal C would be freed up, thereby giving JetBlue a couple as well as WN (which is right next door in Terminal B, though the two terminals are connected). Heck, I know YX operates out of D as well, so they could move their ops. to Terminal C as well to help free up space to either NW or CO which would move to D.

Am I being too confusing? I guess you need to have been to FLL to know what I'm talking about...

JetBluefan1



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32624 posts, RR: 72
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

Quoting JetBluefan1 (Reply 19):

Where are the prospective gates? Also, which other airlines are "competing" for them and how likely do you think it is that JetBlue will receive them?

jetBlue simply wants more gates, and FLL can't get them to them unless they can get other airlines to move around. Certain airlines, like AA and US, are hogging gates because they have more than they need, which makes shuffling airlines difficult.



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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24893 posts, RR: 46
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2811 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 20):
are hogging gates

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Experiencing similar situation at LAX with several airlines.

These days getting airplanes is the easy part. Getting facilities is the name of the game. With most US airports not using the common use concept, by default upstarts and carriers looking to expand get boxed in by many legacy carriers operating under long term exclusive leases without any "use it, or loose it" provisions.

Ultimately commerce and competition gets restrained at some airports due to carriers monopolizing facilities.



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User currently offlineBlrBird From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 578 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2795 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 21):
US airports not using the common use concept,

Is this the norm every where else?? if so what is stopping US airports to follow this?



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32624 posts, RR: 72
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2792 times:

Quoting BlrBird (Reply 22):
Quoting Laxintl (Reply 21):
US airports not using the common use concept,

Is this the norm every where else?? if so what is stopping US airports to follow this?

Very few US airports use common use, and, AFAIK, the only major one that does is MIA.



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User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4646 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2700 times:

Quoting MAH4546 (Reply 23):
Very few US airports use common use, and, AFAIK, the only major one that does is MIA.

LAS IAD and MCO all have sizeable CUTE (Common Use Terminal Equipment) facilities also, IIRC SEA has some too (near DL?).

Though not "major" SNA i believe is 100% CUTE

You can bet that as airline cutbacks continue to burn airports by sitting on underutilized gates that more airports will shift to a CUTE system to maximize efficency.



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25 Laxintl : To my knowledge really no US airport has a true common use concept. In such a concept ticket counters and gates become carrier neutral with any carri
26 B777ER : They will make a killing on the DAB flights. The airport is so under used right now. DL has about 6 dailys right now (8 in the winter I believe) to AT
27 MAH4546 : MIA is 100% common use. Check-in counters even have large plasma TVs behind them so that check-ins can quickly switch between airlines.
28 Mdaddy : I can tell you as an MIA person that B6 has been deferred indefintely. As mentioned elsewhere, we are still debating "differential pricing" for renta
29 MAH4546 : While the decission has definitley been deferred indefinitley, jetBlue and MIA will be talking again once the new rates can be identified, which will
30 Laxintl : How can that be? Airlines still have swats of permanent ticket counter space. From what I remember checking desk down by A concourse seem common use
31 MAH4546 : Everything went common use in the past year or so. All the big airline signs were taken down and replaced with plasma TVs. Now, even though it is ind
32 AAFlyer2006 : Although I doubt they would announce MIA on the July 21st, I wouldn't be surprised if they went to MIA eventually. When jetBlue started flying, they s
33 Laxintl : Thanks for the info. Glad to see a major US airport move in such direction.
34 BlrBird : Thanks for info MAH4546 and Laxintl.
35 FlyPNS1 : I would love to see B6 at PNS, but I think it is unlikely in the near term. It seems odd that PNS would be chosen, when B6 has many larger markets th
36 Post contains images Tonytifao : B6 will be flying to Sarasota, FL Trust me
37 Post contains images NASBWI : Ya don't say! lol
38 Post contains images Tonytifao : Oooppps With ads all over the city it shouldn't be a surprise
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