PanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4287 posts, RR: 83 Posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4716 times:
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Rolls-Royce Trent 1000 engines have been chosen by International Lease Finance Corporation (ILFC), the world's largest aircraft leasing company, to power up to 20 firm and option Boeing 787 Dreamliners in a deal potentially worth $600 million at list prices.
Seems that all of ILFCs firm orders have been covered by this agreement including their 4 options which are reported to be firmed by ILFC at some point during Farnborough.
Lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 15648 posts, RR: 100
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4439 times:
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This is great for RR. Since I expect ILFC to keep ordering the 787, this should be a nice long term win.
However... do recall swapping engines on the 787 is *far* easier than any other airliner (per the lessors demands). Why? The lessors were tired of getting stuck with airframes that had low demand due to not having the customers preference of engine (e.g., the 777).
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SunriseValley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 6150 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4368 times:
I don't believe NZ has firmed up it's engine choice for it's 787-9's; this might be a strong indicator of what they will do since there has been conjecture that they might lease some 787-8's , if so, very likely from ILFC.
A350 From Germany, joined Nov 2004, 1142 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4244 times:
Quoting Lightsaber (Reply 2): However... do recall swapping engines on the 787 is *far* easier than any other airliner (per the lessors demands). Why? The lessors were tired of getting stuck with airframes that had low demand due to not having the customers preference of engine (e.g., the 777).
Yes, that's fine. If a customer wants to lease ILFCs 787s with GeNX engines, just buy GeNX powerplants and hang them on the Dreamliners. But, wait a moment: what to do the Trents and how to pay for the GeNX engines?
USAF336TFS From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 1450 posts, RR: 43
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4147 times:
Quoting DAYflyer (Reply 6): Where does this put RR in terms of numbers vs GENx on this airframe?
The big fight will be which powerplant is chosen by Qantas. Seems both GE and Rolls Royce are sharing the 787's success. Terrific news! I'm wondering if AeroMexico's leased 787s are included in this deal?
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Looks like ILFC is also ordering GEnx for some of their 787's. Which makes sense since they are a leasing company and they would want to be flexible for their various customers with different engine preferences.
TepidHalibut From Iceland, joined Dec 2004, 214 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3762 times:
Quoting BOE773 (Reply 15): The GEnx will have a composite fan case and a new combustor.
So basically, a warmed over GE90, with a couple of flashy features with negligible effect upon SFC ? And where are the revolutionary features? (As far as I know, neither fancases nor combustors rotate.)