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Official: Qatar Confirm Order For 20 X 777s  
User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4165 posts, RR: 90
Posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 17703 times:
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FARNBOROUGH, England, July 17 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- Boeing (NYSE:BA) and Qatar Airways today announced the airline's firm order for 20 777 commercial jetliners. Qatar will begin to take delivery of its new Boeing 777s -- a mix of 14 777-300ERs (Extended Range) and six 777-200LRs (Longer Range) -- in 2007. The airplane deal is valued at approximately $4.9 billion at list prices. This order was previously attributed to an unidentified customer on Boeing's Orders and Deliveries website.

"Qatar Airways continues along a path of profitable growth that is directly tied to our consummate service and dedication to our customers," said Qatar Airways Chief Executive Officer Akbar Al Baker. "I know our passengers will be thrilled seeing the Boeing 777 in Qatar Airways livery and they can look forward to our maximizing the comfort of the airplane's roomy cabin across our network, but particularly on new long-haul routes."

Source: http://www.boeing.com

Regards, PanAm_DC10


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User currently offlinePavlin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 17629 times:

This order was previously attributed to an unidentified customer on Boeing's Orders and Deliveries website.

But still nice to have conformation.


User currently offlineEHHO From Bulgaria, joined Dec 2005, 815 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 17595 times:

Wow... how come they need both A346s AND B773ERs?


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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4442 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17524 times:

So what happened to those folks saying T7 orders will slow down in the next 5-6 years because no one wants to end up with thirsty planes when the 787/350 arrive?
Way to go 777.


User currently offlineLotsamiles From United States of America, joined May 2005, 323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17341 times:

Boeing has just pulled back on the news release - very strange!


Press Release Source: Boeing


/K I L L K I L L K I L L -- Boeing/
Monday July 17, 8:42 am ET


We are advised by Boeing that journalists and other readers should disregard the news release, Boeing (NYSE: BA - News) and Qatar Airways Finalize Deal for 20 Boeing 777s, issued earlier today over PR Newswire.


User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17314 times:

Very weird reaction by Boeing, especially the "KILLKILLKILL". Someone at Boeing been doing too much drugs  Silly ?

User currently offlineEHHO From Bulgaria, joined Dec 2005, 815 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17274 times:

Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 5):
Someone at Boeing been doing too much drugs Silly ?

Or listening too much to Arlo Guthrie's "Alice's Restaurant"!

Still very strange of course, looks well on its way to get the "major aviation PR blunder 2006" award if the order doesn't come out in the end.



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User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17274 times:

They've taken-down the Lion-Air 739ER announcement for 30 aircraft as well.

User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12570 posts, RR: 46
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17153 times:
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Perhaps they got the customers the wrong way round? duck 

Maybe they're in shock at the A350XWB announcement? duck 

All a bit odd. confused 



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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4165 posts, RR: 90
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17059 times:
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Quoting Leelaw (Reply 7):
They've taken-down the Lion-Air 739ER announcement for 30 aircraft as well

It's still on their site

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/2006/q3/060717b_nr.html

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineVirginFlyer From New Zealand, joined Sep 2000, 4575 posts, RR: 41
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17059 times:

Quoting Leelaw (Reply 7):
They've taken-down the Lion-Air 739ER announcement for 30 aircraft as well.

It is still available at http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/ as I'm posting this.

The retraction of the QR thing is quite bizarre. I guess the simple explanation is that it was meant to have its own press conference and big event and be released then, and someone stuffed up and released the press release early...

V/F



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9635 posts, RR: 68
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 17059 times:
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They were just talking about the Qatar order here on the radio in Seattle, they are interviewing Mulally at 6:45 local time.

User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 16972 times:

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Reply 9):



Quoting VirginFlyer (Reply 10):

Sorry, they only took it off the front page.


User currently offlineDanny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3509 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 16934 times:

They want to announce it for the 5th time and make more PR spin around it.

User currently offlineFly-K From Germany, joined May 2000, 3154 posts, RR: 51
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 16897 times:
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Interesting, one forum member earlier hinted that the unidentified order was for Etihad (and he works for them). So maybe this order is still coming too. In any case, EY's CEO tells Gulfnews that the decision between 350 and 787 is still open, but that they definitely need more capacity in that class.


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User currently offlineDL021 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 11447 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 16544 times:

The KILLKILLKILL piece was simply mediaspeak for "kill the story" because it was released incorrectly or prematurely.

So the Lionair thing is still news, but the Qatar story is premature? Or are they simply going to wait for the ink to dry in order to prevent any further false hopes based on "commitments"?



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5772 posts, RR: 47
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 16485 times:

Quoting DL021 (Reply 15):
So the Lionair thing is still news, but the Qatar story is premature? Or are they simply going to wait for the ink to dry in order to prevent any further false hopes based on "commitments"?

It's the former. The 20 777s has been on Boeing's order book for sometime now. Qatar was just waiting for Farnborough to announce the order. It seems like someone in Boeing's PR department got a little too excited and probably sent out the wrong release. Someone was downing a few too many at the local pub it seems.  drunk 



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User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4165 posts, RR: 90
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 16392 times:
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Quoting DL021 (Reply 15):
but the Qatar story is premature?

I believe that to be the case as it was released prior to their scheduled briefing.

Quoting DL021 (Reply 15):
Or are they simply going to wait for the ink to dry in order to prevent any further false hopes based on "commitments"?

There shouldn't be given that from the press release that I copied it stated that;

Quoting PanAm_DC10 (Thread starter):
This order was previously attributed to an unidentified customer on Boeing's Orders and Deliveries website.

which means that deposits had been paid and it met Boeings order booking chriteria. However, it is my understanding that the 777 announcement is not the only announcement that QR have planned and by releasing it early QR may have wished for a dual announcement.

Regards, PanAm_DC10



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User currently offlineN328KF From United States of America, joined May 2004, 6489 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 16220 times:

According to The Wall Street Journal (fair use excerpt):
A Qatar Airways spokeswoman said the press conference was canceled because the chief executive was unwell. She declined to comment on the earlier Boeing statement. She said a press conference may be rescheduled in the next day or two, but there was no certainty of that.



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User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 16196 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 16):
It's the former. The 20 777s has been on Boeing's order book for sometime now. Qatar was just waiting for Farnborough to announce the order. It seems like someone in Boeing's PR department got a little too excited and probably sent out the wrong release. Someone was downing a few too many at the local pub it seems.

Hang on, wasn't there supposed to have been a press conference at 13:00LT by QR? That time has passed... did the conference even take place?



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User currently offlineLeelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 16121 times:

Here's a link to the aforementioned WSJ article:

The fate of a Qatar Airways order for 20 Boeing Co. 777s aircraft was shrouded in mystery Monday as Boeing removed from its Web site an earlier statement saying it had secured the sale...

...Qatar Airways was scheduled to hold a press conference at the Farnborough International Airshow at 1200 GMT but canceled it Monday morning. Boeing then removed the statement from its Web site...


http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20060717-707889.html

Perhaps "Mr. Swiss-Cheese" decided to have luncheon with John Leahy instead...sure hope the "deposit" check has cleared the bank.

[Edited 2006-07-17 16:43:54]

User currently offlineRAPCON From Puerto Rico, joined Jul 2006, 671 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 16085 times:

Airbus unveils projects, ideas, designs, etc,......Boeing bags orders.

This is starting to irritate me!  grumpy 



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User currently offlineClickhappy From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 9635 posts, RR: 68
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 16002 times:
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any chance the state of the order has anything to do with events in the middle east? Not trying to inject political drivel into this thread!

User currently offlineKL808 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1584 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 16002 times:

This seems to be in the bag for Boeing.

But what a big scandal this would be if QR cancels this order again and orders the A350XWB aircraft instead.

Drew



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User currently offlineLotsamiles From United States of America, joined May 2005, 323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 15965 times:

Quoting Clickhappy (Reply 22):
any chance the state of the order has anything to do with events in the middle east?

Sitting here watching the news the thought crossed my mind!


25 Ikramerica : Hey, pre-MacWorld once ATItech released some PR early and took away Emperor Steve Jobs' thunder, and Jobs immediately pulled the ATI cards out of Appl
26 NYC777 : Boeing has already booked the order and they have a signed firm contract. QR might not make an annoucement but they are still obliged to take an dpay
27 Post contains links and images Halibut : Bloomberg . com just 30 minutes ago ! Halibut http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...1085&sid=aomBHZ1SElUo&refer=europe Boeing Top Airbus With $4.9 Bl
28 Hamlet69 : I think it is more likely what the WSJ reported: Boeing put up the press release, knowing the information would probably start truly spreading worldw
29 N328KF : It gets murkier. With customers like this, who needs enemies? Fair use excerpt from The Wall Street Journal:FARNBOROUGH, England (Dow Jones)--Qatar Ai
30 Ikramerica : As I said a while ago, I stopped caring what QR does a long time ago. Sound like a bunch of attention hog babies and they play with B and A (and the
31 Lotsamiles : Since there was a quote in the press release from QR's chief certainly there was a coordinated effort to put it together. If QR are really putting do
32 N328KF : More fuel for the fire from The Wall Street JournalFARNBOROUGH, England (Dow Jones)--Airbus is still in negotiations with Qatar Airways about a possib
33 Post contains links Leelaw : From James Wallace of the Seattle PI (Fair Use Excerpt): ...Boeing and Qatar Airways put out - and then recalled - a release announcing an order for 2
34 Scbriml : I'm sure he's talking about A350X vs 787. The 777 is a done deal, just a PR cock-up over the announcement.
35 Clickhappy : well, I have done some emailing, and calling. There are political forces at play, sadly. I was given a cryptic "see who Qatar donated money to." I bel
36 PolymerPlane : It does not matter when QR wants to announce this order. The fact of the matter is that the 20 UFO 777s are already listed as firm order on Boeing's w
37 NYC777 : Thanks Clcikhappy, this kinda confirmed my suspicion that the whole Mid East political dynamics is (Unjustifiably) effecting commercial dealings betw
38 Post contains images WorldXplorer : Son of a .... Man it infuriates me when government run airlines pull this stuff. QR and SU being latest examples. At least when EK flip-flops it's st
39 Legoguy : So whats happening. What are the chances of Qatar somehow ordering the airbus??? And why would they retract the 20 x777 statement if they knew people
40 Post contains links and images Debonair : and what will happen to the A350-order??? Nothing, a dual-fleet??? last years news: As expected, Qatar gave Airbus the big A350 order that it coveted
41 JoKeR : Not that I'm an expert in global politics but I do believe that Qatar plays home to a massive US military base and is a strong and close ally of the
42 NYC777 : QR stinks to high hell....let's look at the facts: 1) QR says they're going to buy ( a year ago) 20 777s 2) QR later says they're reviewing the 777s L
43 Dutchjet : Maybe the guy is just ill and the press conference and press release were killed to accomodate him - he is chairman of the airline after all. When the
44 Katekebo : Maybe QR CEO received a phone call from Leahy at noon making him an offer he couldn't refuse?
45 NYC777 : All well and good but why did QR say that they do not have a firm 777 order and that it was still under negotiation(They could have just said no comm
46 YOWza : Arm twisting, simple as that. AAB is quite the ball-breaker and is very sneaky, hence his nickname - the Snake. YOWza
47 NYC777 : How could the Snake get out of contract he's already signed unless he's willing to amend it by also buying 60 787s?
48 Post contains images Scbriml : Surely it couldn't be that simple could it? I doubt that very much - I suspect Airbus's best and final offer was made before QR ordered the 777s. May
49 NYC777 : They could have said a simple no comment to questions about the order and still save face.
50 Dutchjet : They could have, they did not.....probably everyone was caught offguard with this small screw-up and the standard " we are still in negotitations" li
51 NYC777 : I'm not but something does smell fishy.
52 Scbriml : Maybe it was something fishy that made AAB ill?
53 NYC777 : Maybe it was the fish (he should have had the chicken)!
54 WorldXplorer : LOL. Scbriml, I hope you are right and this is all an innocent health related delay. At this point I agree with NYC777 though. There is something abo
55 Scbriml : For a lot of people in the Middle-East a "no comment" response just doesn't cut the mustard. It kind of implies that you're not in control of the sit
56 Post contains links WestWing : According to Bloomberg, Boeing clarifies the release was a "mistake" , not that it was "premature". Boeing spokesman Jim Condelles refused to comment
57 NYC777 : WEll maybe I'm wrong (I'm hopig) and the delay is only due to QRs desire to finalize the 60 x 787 order!!!!
58 Post contains links Leelaw : From an AP story (Fair Use Excerpt), now Mr. Leahy says the Boeing deal ain't done, what a weird day: ...Boeing spokesman Peter Conte later said that
59 Zkojh : this goes backwards and forwards like the price of oil does! lets see what airbus come out with now,
60 BoeingBus : It has to be over as the order for 20 777 were signed and recorded already in Boeing's order book. Unless, Lehey is referring to the 787 vs. A350 v5?
61 Post contains images KL808 : Well it could be ordered. BUT.... there's a chance that Airbus gave QR a very good deal to make the 20 B777's ordered put on hold indefinitely leaving
62 BoeingBus : it's already been discussed why this the Press Release was retracted... the Qatar CEO got sick and couldnt make it to the announcement... Leahey is re
63 ETStar : Oh my god! With all the spinning and speculation on this thread, what is CNN going to be left with? So if there are quotes from the airline that state
64 Cloudyapple : Never accuse/bite your customers. Don't read too much in between the lines. American-styled conspiracy thoeries are not as rife in the real world.
65 Atmx2000 : While Boeing shouldn't say anything, if QR is playing games again, Boeing shouldn't give them the time of day in the future. I believe QR has been si
66 Airbuspilot : It is a well known fact that all major arabic carriers like to brag about their new orders on major airshows. Most of the times two airlines will figh
67 Amirs : Maybe QR is trying to renegotiate the order and tie it up with an order for 787. Since they might get more a/c from boeing (787) they might want to ge
68 A342 : Make that 60 x A350 ! But, there is one thing that is confusing me: Do we REALLY know those 20 UFO 777s are for QR ? After all, the new A350XWB cover
69 Katekebo : Given how much Airbus needs to bring some credibility to the A350 program, I would not be surprized that they made an offer for the A350 that QR can n
70 NYC777 : Yeah and QR would get a 777 starting in 2007 vs the A350whatever in 2012-2013. What are they going to do for capacity in between? Anyway they're are
71 DAYflyer : The whole thing is just silly.
72 Scbriml : Indeed, they need capacity and they need it now - which is why they're still taking their A346s. I'm still convinced that QR will take the 777s. Howe
73 PlanesNTrains : Thank you for your rational post. Perspective is very important in a thread like this, and the most obvious logical observations are usually the accu
74 Post contains images JoKeR : And considering what we have seen from this airline in the past, unexpected developments are more than likely in the future!
75 PolymerPlane : Of course not, the deal is already signed and sealed. It's already in Boeing's order book. It is impossible that Boeing's PR will even write about th
76 PlanesNTrains : Well if you believe what some say, QR has all the money in the world. They could just walk away, which I guess is their right. I doubt they'd do that
77 Post contains images PlanesNTrains : If this were a story, you just skipped from the intro to the last page, missing all the juicy stuff in the middle. -Dave
78 MEABeirut : LOL, yea, that is what I did. I guess I will go back and read through. -Tim
79 Post contains images Tugger : DON'T DO IT! In the name of all that is good and kind and holy and wonderful and..... (well you get the idea) DON'T DO IT! Tug[Edited 2006-07-18 23:1
80 Post contains images PlanesNTrains : Probably good advice . Why scar himself! -Dave
81 MEABeirut : :::::shiver::::: Yikes, your right I shouldn't have read that. And yes, I am scarred now. -Tim
82 Tugger : Sorry, MEABeirut, I tried to warn you..... Of course I seem to be a pretty big abuser too, I haven't posted one damn thing on the order. I will be ve
83 MEABeirut : They totally did. Heads will roll. I love Boeing like none other, bu QR has every right to be angry at them. Someone took a chance, and it blew up in
84 Post contains images Halibut : Sounds like a case of Sour grapes to me . Agreed PlanesNTrains & nicely done , QR's actoins are childish . If QR pulled this stunt with Airbus , I ce
85 ETStar : Hahhahah I don't care whether or not Boeing gets the deal, but I cannot get over the feather rufflings that are going on in this thread! Plane (pun) s
86 Post contains images Leelaw : Has there been a news bulletin reporting the status of Mr. "Swiss Cheese's/Flip-Flop's" "health?" Has John Leahy been spotted visiting a London area h
87 YOWza : They can backout and pay the penalty fee for doing so, QR have very very deep pockets and in the GCC saving face and making a point are often placed
88 Wingman : Without reading every post in the thread, I find it curious that the primary quote in the opening statement is directly from the QR CEO. QR clearly ap
89 Stitch : QR might also be just trying to be different from EK. As Airbus didn't have a viable competitor to the 777, QR had no choice but to buy the 777 as wel
90 Post contains links PanAm_DC10 : The latest in the saga! FARNBOROUGH (England) — Qatar Airways yesterday said it would delay indefinitely a long expected $4.9 billion order for 20 B
91 Columba : Say what you will but I see political issues behind that.
92 Dank : Seems like some combination of that and the fact that airbus might have sweetened the pie. If they can get one family to cover their needs (350), why
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