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GE Will Power A350-800, Possibly -900  
User currently offlineFD728 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 136 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2238 times:

Bloomberg reports that GE agreed to power the -800 and is in talks about putting engines on the -900 as well. They definitely won't power the -1000 as this plane is in direct competition to the 777-300, where the GE90 is the exclusive engine. Plus, the GE90 cannot be used on the A350-1000 as there is an exclusive agreement with Boeing in place.

To me, this is a rather bad solution. Why the heck is PW not jumping on the train??? They wanted to supply engines for the 787, so I'm sure they would still be capable of doing so for the A350. This way they could regain market share big time.

My 2cents,

Manu

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User currently offlineIkramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2208 times:

Are these going to be GEnx engines? If so, 85k will fit mighty nicely on the 787-10 and 787-9LR...

And a GE90NG at 100k would power a lightened and more efficient 772LR/773ER (as well as 777F) quite nicely...



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User currently offlineA350 From Germany, joined Nov 2004, 1101 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

That's actually the worst solution. Good solutions would be upgraded GeNX engines or Engines Alliance powerplants, and for all three A350-types. But I agree with FD728, that's the opportunity for PW, although a very risky one.

A350



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User currently offlineFD728 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1860 times:

Yep, definitely, an Engine Alliance Solution could be best, but then GE would go into the 773 territory as well.
Anyone knows why Airbus and PW don't talk about the A350?

FD728


User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4881 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1830 times:

Quoting FD728 (Thread starter):
Why the heck is PW not jumping on the train?



Quoting FD728 (Reply 3):
Anyone knows why Airbus and PW don't talk about the A350?

One plausible reason was already given......

Quoting A350 (Reply 2):
that's the opportunity for PW, although a very risky one.

It could well be that P&W's resources are already stretched, or they already had studiously decided the best application for those resources.



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User currently offlineFD728 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1806 times:

Quoting DEVILFISH (Reply 4):
It could well be that P&W's resources are already stretched, or they already had studiously decided the best application for those resources.

That's why MDD's commercial business went down the drain. They didn't risk enough to stay afloat. PW should have enough financial ressources from the military business to get their commercial arm back on track. MDD could have done that, but they chose not to. See where they are today (or where they are not today).

FD728


User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2014 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1806 times:

I suspect that the loser on the 787 bid battle (PW) would automatically be out of A350 contention, unless they could demonstrate something significantly better, enough to make people buy the A350 instead of the 787...

Having lost that bid, I would be very surprised if they continued development work on engines in that band, I think PW are concentrating on the A320/737 replacements...

Of course, if Boeing had allowed all 3 manufacturers the chance to power the 787, then presumably all 3 manufacturers would be able to power the A350...



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User currently offlineDEVILFISH From Philippines, joined Jan 2006, 4881 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 1754 times:

Quoting FD728 (Reply 5):
They didn't risk enough to stay afloat.

Maybe P&W do not believe the A350 as worth the risk? Besides, are we sure Airbus still really want P&W onboard after the PW6000 issues on the A318? The following post pictured P&W as a non-starter after losing the 787 bid, although I'm unsure how a P&W engine that is significantly better as to sway 787 orders to A350 was not offered to, or could be passed up by Boeing.

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 6):
I suspect that the loser on the 787 bid battle (PW) would automatically be out of A350 contention, unless they could demonstrate something significantly better, enough to make people buy the A350 instead of the 787...



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