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Is ATR Just Sitting And Watching?  
User currently offlineFD728 From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 136 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 2276 times:

How come ATR doesn't discuss challenging Bombardier on the Q400X? Just imagine the Q400X being a huge success. Very likely IMO with oil prices increasing and larger size turboprops getting more attractive.
The sales of the ATR-42 are not exactly good. The -72 is getting old. But with the financial ressources increasing by having sold many ATR-72s lately, shouldn't ATR use that extra cash to invest in future projects? This must be the only manufacturer (which still exists) not having developed anything new within 20 years.

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User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 2252 times:

very good question indeed.... as the ATR42 was the first plane I ever made a commercial flight on (NUE-CDG on good ol' NFD) and also rode on the ATRs also quite frequently when I was young, I always kinda liked the ATRs, even if partly just for sentimental reasons...

but it made me wonder, given the huge success of the CRJs and ERJs, why doesn't ATR develop an "ATR-Jet" or so...?



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User currently offlineKappel From Suriname, joined Jul 2005, 3533 posts, RR: 17
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2211 times:

Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 1):
but it made me wonder, given the huge success of the CRJs and ERJs, why doesn't ATR develop an "ATR-Jet" or so...?

I read in one of my aviation books that was indeed a plan for a while at ATR, just like the ATR82 (or 92, whatever they would call it). I don't think at the moment the jet is a smart idea, better go ahead with the stretch of the ATR 72. BTW the ATR72-500 is not that old, and IIRC burns less fuel (is also lighter) than the Q400, although also slower.



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User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2013 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2151 times:

Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 1):
but it made me wonder, given the huge success of the CRJs and ERJs, why doesn't ATR develop an "ATR-Jet" or so...?

Aren't ATR partner Alenia investing in the RRJ project?



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User currently offlineTangowhisky From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 929 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2104 times:

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 3):
Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 1):
but it made me wonder, given the huge success of the CRJs and ERJs, why doesn't ATR develop an "ATR-Jet" or so...?

Aren't ATR partner Alenia investing in the RRJ project?

Yes, and the other 50% partner is EADS who ownes a company that makes Airbus jets. Both partners seem un-interested in terms of large scale investments for ATR.



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User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1312 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2098 times:

Quoting Kappel (Reply 2):
like the ATR82

Correct.

Quoting FD728 (Thread starter):
How come ATR doesn't discuss challenging Bombardier on the Q400X? Just imagine the Q400X being a huge success. Very likely IMO with oil prices increasing and larger size turboprops getting more attractive.

Turboprops may have become more attractive as of late, but they are still servicing a niche market. With one manufacturer enjoying only modest success with their model (and it really is only modest when compared to its regional jet counterparts), I don't know if it would be wise to produce another rival for such a small market. Besides, ATR is winning business for their used aircraft, and are still producing new aircraft for their new clients in India/Pakistan.



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