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My Idea: NW/CO/DL Merger  
User currently offlineBillReid From Netherlands, joined Jun 2006, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6700 times:

Here's an Idea take 30 Billion, combine NW, DL, And CO.

NW flies only International to the far east ONLY.
Continental flies only international to Europe ONLY.
Delta connects everything within America, is the domestic component ONLY.

NW Int gateways MSP, SEA, LAX, DTW, ATL
CO Int gateways ATL, EWR, IAH, DTW, MSP, JFK

DL Hubs ATL, EWR, DTW, IAH
DL Focus Cities CVG, SLC, CLE, MEM

Now thats a major airline system!


Some people don't get it. Business is about making MONEY!
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User currently offlineDtwclipper From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6692 times:

Quoting BillReid (Thread starter):
Here's an Idea take 30 Billion, combine NW, DL, And CO.

NW flies only International to the far east ONLY.
Continental flies only international to Europe ONLY.
Delta connects everything within America, is the domestic component ONLY.

NW Int gateways MSP, SEA, LAX, DTW, ATL
CO Int gateways ATL, EWR, IAH, DTW, MSP, JFK

DL Hubs ATL, EWR, DTW, IAH
DL Focus Cities CVG, SLC, CLE, MEM

Now thats a major airline system!

And you needed to start a new thread because.......


User currently onlineTugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 5729 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6664 times:

Noreltanental Airlines!

Now THAT is one hell of a good name (if I do say so myself).

Tug



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User currently offlineBillReid From Netherlands, joined Jun 2006, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6641 times:

I started this thread as a response to all the lunacy about all the mergers between US and NW. Jeez, they haven't even got 25% of the US-HP merger done yet. So I created a dream.


Some people don't get it. Business is about making MONEY!
User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6632 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6641 times:

I don't think that they would continue to operate separately, and would prefer to consolidate as one. The airline would be called Delta and would combine all the destinations.

Hubs: IAH, ATL, EWR, MSP, DTW, SLC
Focus cities: CVG, JFK, MEM, CLE

Fleet
Embraer 190
Boeing 737-700
Boeing 737-800
Boeing 737-900
Boeing 757-200
Boeing 757-300
Boeing 767-200ER
Boeing 767-300
Boeing 767-300ER
Boeing 767-400ER
Boeing 777-200ER
Boeing 787-8
possibly Boeing 787-3



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User currently offlineBillReid From Netherlands, joined Jun 2006, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6641 times:

Quoting Tugger (Reply 2):
Noreltanental Airlines!

That is wonderful!



Some people don't get it. Business is about making MONEY!
User currently offlineFleet Service From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 623 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6641 times:

Personally, I'd take the Thirty billion and flee to an island. Big grin


Yes, I actually *do* work for an airline,how about you?
User currently offlineBillReid From Netherlands, joined Jun 2006, 1021 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6566 times:

Quoting Fleet Service (Reply 6):
Personally, I'd take the Thirty billion and flee to an island.

I can't do that because it isn't my own money. I think that is against the law unless the airline would be called Air Enron?

See, I truly believe it is great to build a great airline ...... but never ever use your own money just in case there are some speed bumps along the way!



Some people don't get it. Business is about making MONEY!
User currently offlineLitz From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1773 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6517 times:
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Quoting BillReid (Reply 7):
I can't do that because it isn't my own money. I think that is against the law unless the airline would be called Air Enron?

Well, you forgot about the part where you insulate yourself against any wrongdoing by funnelling all the funds into a protected trust fund, so the creditors can't touch it ...

Then you take your 30bil and buy your three airlines (or your tropical island) ...

Oh wait ... that's Delta's previous management.

 biggrin 

- litz


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6517 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 4):
I don't think that they would continue to operate separately, and would prefer to consolidate as one. The airline would be called Delta and would combine all the destinations.

I think it would still be called CO..as CO has much more brand recognition around the world..

though I'm sure Keesje would dream of seeing this one day.. spin 



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User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4760 posts, RR: 44
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6443 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 9):
though I'm sure Keesje would dream of seeing this one day..

His dream is my nightmare!



Some see lines, others see between the lines.
User currently offlineBohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2738 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6407 times:

Quoting BillReid (Thread starter):
Here's an Idea take 30 Billion, combine NW, DL, And CO.

NW flies only International to the far east ONLY.
Continental flies only international to Europe ONLY.
Delta connects everything within America, is the domestic component ONLY.

NW Int gateways MSP, SEA, LAX, DTW, ATL
CO Int gateways ATL, EWR, IAH, DTW, MSP, JFK

DL Hubs ATL, EWR, DTW, IAH
DL Focus Cities CVG, SLC, CLE, MEM

Now thats a major airline system!

Put the crack pipe away.  dopey   Big grin


User currently offlineDL4EVR From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 641 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6328 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 9):
I think it would still be called CO..as CO has much more brand recognition around the world..

And DL doesnt???? They're in Europe more than any other US carrier!



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User currently offlineJahmike From United States of America, joined May 2006, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6285 times:

I guess some people just live for stuff like this....

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6083 times:

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 10):

His dream is my nightmare!

mine too...though I have to admit, that A346 looks REALLY nice in DL colours..!

Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 12):
And DL doesnt???? They're in Europe more than any other US carrier!

Not compared to CO it doesn't.... no 



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User currently offlineMastaHanky From United States of America, joined May 2006, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6065 times:

From what I've been hearing, Bill Gates is going to purchase all six of the majors in the US, and combine them into one huge carrier called Microsoft Air. 95% of travel in the US will occur in Microsoft Air.

The remaining 5% will be a bunch of tiny airlines which fly routes that are actually useful, their planes won't crash, and they will be much more efficient than Microsoft Air. Unfortunately, their insanely technical booking procedures will prevent most consumers from flying them.


User currently offlineGoCOgo From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5990 times:

Can we change the title of this thread to "CO Merger Possibility # ‡


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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25553 posts, RR: 86
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5928 times:
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Quoting BillReid (Thread starter):
Here's an Idea take 30 Billion,

So I am still not sure where the 30 billion is coming from?

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 9):
I'm sure Keesje would dream of seeing this one day.

It looks terrific. I'm with Keesje.

Quoting GoCOgo (Reply 16):
Can we change the title of this thread to "CO Merger Possibility # ?‡

Or - "CO Merger Fantasy"?

 Smile

mariner



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User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5799 times:

Quoting Tugger (Reply 2):
Noreltanental Airlines!

Now THAT is one hell of a good name (if I do say so myself).

I don't know about that... Conorta would be so much easier to say.

Then again, that sounds a little like a drug cartel.hmmm...

I hope it never happes, though.

Lincoln



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User currently offlineJoeman From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 771 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5774 times:

Quoting GoCOgo (Reply 16):
Can we change the title of this thread to "CO Merger Possibility # ‡

Folks must have fun speculating and trying to guess the future which history shows will evolve towards something probably much different than what exists today.

To keep the subject of these three airlines merging alive, new threads are started since there "might" be one new idea thrown into the mix like at the beginning of this one. But, from there on the repetitition starts, similar to but distantly less annoying or active as the never ending "Wright Amendment" threads for which there should be a separate website devoted.


User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5631 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 9):
I think it would still be called CO..as CO has much more brand recognition around the world..



Quoting DL4EVR (Reply 12):
And DL doesnt???? They're in Europe more than any other US carrier!



Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 14):
Not compared to CO it doesn't....

Sorry, Delta is larger, both domestically and internationally than CO. Feel free to count the destinations flown with own metal. It has been discussed in some of the CO/DL threads already and proven that DL is larger, domestically, and internationally, especially in Europe.



OttoPylit


User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5576 times:

Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 20):

Sorry, Delta is larger, both domestically and internationally than CO. Feel free to count the destinations flown with own metal. It has been discussed in some of the CO/DL threads already and proven that DL is larger, domestically, and internationally, especially in Europe.

I know, you're totally correct. But people seem to be insistant that CO would take over DL and crap like that. Pure speculation. If DL/CO were to merge, DL would be the carrier. DL has WAYYY more brand recognition than CO, in the US especially and also worldwide.

Jeremy


User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9262 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 5481 times:

I don't know which is sillier, this thread, or the whole shebang with T.O. blaming the media for his image...


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User currently offlineCentrair From Japan, joined Jan 2005, 3598 posts, RR: 20
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5414 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 4):
Hubs: IAH, ATL, EWR, MSP, DTW, SLC
Focus cities: CVG, JFK, MEM, CLE

Hubs: IAH, ATL, EWR, MSP, DTW, SEA, NRT, GUM
Focus cities: CVG, JFK, MEM, CLE, SLC

SEA has more O&D and used to be huge NW ops and stil has a lot of it. SLC just doesn't cut it.

NRT is NW's Asian hub and would have to remain that as it is worth more money than you can imagine.

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 4):
Fleet
Embraer 190
Boeing 737-700
Boeing 737-800
Boeing 737-900
Boeing 757-200
Boeing 757-300
Boeing 767-200ER
Boeing 767-300
Boeing 767-300ER
Boeing 767-400ER
Boeing 777-200ER
Boeing 787-8
possibly Boeing 787-3

I think it would be more like
E 190
737-700
737-800
737-900
757-200
757-300
777-200ER
787-3*
787-8
787-10*
777-300ER*
* Possibly

Reason: having 787-3 and -8 would defeat the purpose of the 767s. They are the repacement. Add the -10 (when offered) to offset 777s. Add the 777-300ER for NRT hub.

Call the airline:
1) BAAC (Big Ass American Carrier)
2) Triad
3) the Guild
4) Continental



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User currently offlineAlaska737 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1063 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5360 times:

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 10):
His dream is my nightmare!

i agree, that is horrid.


here's a merger idea for you, AS and HA, form Outcast Airlines and the tail people could fall in love. there express carrier could be a Half Eskimo Half Polynesian tail baby. Big grin  Big grin  Big grin


25 Post contains images Jacobin777 : I'm sure you are Mariner, I'm sure you are...
26 VS773ER : As a Mac user I find that comment highly insulting... (Funny tho!)
27 LawnDart : So, how do you make a million dollars in the airline industry? Well...
28 Deputydawghere : Thank you.
29 PITA333 : My Idea: A Perfect Airliners.net........ where all these meaningless merger threads would either A.) Become one thread or B.) Go away all together unt
30 SLCUT2777 : SLC is a MUCH BETTER central location in the western US (okay, maybe not as good as DEN) to operate a domestic hub. SEA lacks the runway capabilities
31 Post contains images Jacobin777 : I've never argued that DL has more destinations or isn't larger...I think CO's name is more recognised than that of DL...
32 OttoPylit : Well, in Central and South America, I would certainly agree with you, I just feel otherwise elsewhere. We'll just agree to disagree on this point. Ot
33 Bobnwa : Do you really think that CO has more brand recognition than DL in Asia, Europe, South America, the Middle East, Africa, etc. I don't think so! Not ev
34 Post contains images Jacobin777 : yes (for the most part) and.. yes......
35 Garri767 : to make it fair, i searched Airline logo on an image search on google. first three US airlines that came up were , NW , CO, and DL. I guess the debat
36 SESGDL : Not even close. Especially not in the US, where it's most important. The number of people who fly Delta (more than double that of Continental) speaks
37 Post contains images B777A340Fan : A possible merger amongst DL/NW/CO would be nonsensical! Well not to mention that it would put thousands on the unemployment list, the "new" airline w
38 SLCUT2777 : UA might be out of Chapter 11, but they are far from being healthy!
39 Bobnwa : I believe that DL and NW are healthier than UA even though they are in bankruptcy.
40 Jacobin777 : I was talking only about "recognisable" names..has nothing to do with number of boarding passengers or revenue...DL boards more pax and has more reve
41 B777A340Fan : And that is based on.....? To me, UAL is at least doing something right. It seems to be expanding and from the little research that I've done so far,
42 NorthwestEWR : If Northwest, Continental and Delta merged the fleet would look something like this right after the merger. Including regional partners the new airlin
43 B777A340Fan : I doubt the "big" company would retain every single aircraft.
44 NorthwestEWR : No of course they wouldn't but at the moment the merged they would have all those aircraft.
45 Post contains images SLCUT2777 : Profitable ? My A$*! UAL lost over $300 million 1st quarter out of Chapter 11, and you call that profitable? They had 3.5 years to get things reorgan
46 Post contains images Haggis79 : well, I think for Germany at least, this is not true... Delta had this highly successful "Synchronisation"-commercial in Germany in the mid-90s (the
47 SESGDL : I would agree that that is the case in most places. In most places in Europe and North America Delta is more known than Continental. Jeremy
48 NASCARAirforce : If they keep all those planes they could be called "Noreltanentaloflot Airlines"
49 Letsgetwet : Continental serves 137 International destinations with their own metal. What's the # for Delta? As far as Germany goes, Continental serves 4 cities,
50 M404 : Actually, their are a few of us who have always figured that at the very least two would merge. DOJ, Skyteam, DOT, KLM, AF, EU not withstanding. I'm s
51 Haggis79 : I know of at least five of them (FRA, MUC, TXL, CGN and STR). But I think, when it comes to how well-known a foreign airline brand in Germany is, the
52 Fewsolarge : DL serves DUS, not CGN. But five is the count.
53 Letsgetwet : I know you're wrong about at least one. Continental is the only airline to fly non stop to CGN non stop. Delta does not fly there.
54 Post contains images Haggis79 : sorry, you're of course right... I was thinking of DUS and accidently wrote CGN... but may I add as an excuse that I am from the southern part of Ger
55 B777A340Fan : The fact of the matter is that they're on the right track to reach profitability. Were there people hurt in the process? of course! were there people
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