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LNS Gets Big Offer From Continental  
User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3105 posts, RR: 10
Posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3394 times:

Courtesy: The Sunday News

Lancaster, PA Airport Gets Big Offer From Continental

http://www.airportbusiness.com/artic.../article.jsp?siteSection=4&id=7199

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User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 748 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3363 times:

I wish LNS luck in getting better service. It would be strange to have
LNS-EWR when MDT has no service to the NY City area.

Where is RegionsAir getting all these Saab's?


User currently offlineJerseyGuy From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 1998 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3348 times:
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passengers would get to fly in larger, more comfortable aircraft



Quoting Aiportbusiness.com article:
This service would use 30-seat SAAB 340A planes

I guess I'm spoiled living near EWR, you know the airport is small when a upgrade in service is 30 seat SAABs.



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User currently offline777DadandJr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1516 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3348 times:

Quoting BatonOps (Reply 1):
I wish LNS luck in getting better service.

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Quoting BatonOps (Reply 1):
It would be strange to have
LNS-EWR when MDT has no service to the NY City area.

Hello???? What's up with that?
I have been saying for years, that MDT should have some kind of air service to NYC.

I hope CO does well there, just the same.

Russ



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User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 748 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3326 times:

US Express use to fly Dash 8's on the MDT-LGA route. I actually did that run in reverse several times. I also use to fly CO to EWR from MDT on ATR's.

User currently offlineFCYTravis From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 1191 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3326 times:

Quoting BatonOps (Reply 1):
Where is RegionsAir getting all these Saab's?

That's the rub. They don't have them. Nor do they have any codeshare agreement signed with Continental for Newark. What they do have is the ability to write EAS grant applications with lots of little asterisks.

As pointed out by A330323X in other threads on this subject, RegionsAir's EAS applications of late have been predicated on a number of assertions that either turn out to be flimsy or entirely untrue.

RegionsAir is asking way too much. ZV's gonna keep LNS.



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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 43
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3285 times:

The EAS bids at LNS are already being discussed here if anyone would like more information.

Quoting KarlB737 (Thread starter):
Lancaster, PA Airport Gets Big Offer From Continental

Funny, Continental had nothing to do with this "offer".  Silly

(I know that's just the title of the article.)

Quoting FCYTravis (Reply 5):
What they do have is the ability to write EAS grant applications with lots of little asterisks.

Now, now, let's be fair. Sometimes RegionsAir doesn't even include the fine print and just tells outright lies instead.  Silly

I wonder how they're doing with that BFD/JHW service they started last month...wait, what do you mean they haven't started it yet? I think I've seen this episode before.  Yeah sure



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9211 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3132 times:

Quoting 777DadandJr (Reply 3):
I have been saying for years, that MDT should have some kind of air service to NYC.

That would mean that you would have to drive 50 minutes out of your way for LNS-EWR service, as would someone from the close vicinity of Harrisburg (i.e. Middletown, Hershey, etc...)

The reason why LNS is getting such an offer is because of the reduced service at PIT... It even stated in the article that PIT doesn't have the connections it used to. Many of the routes have been dropped, including transatlantic service, and many of the mainline routes have been replaced with RJs.

If this starts up, I hope it's negative impacts on the LNS-PIT flights aren't too significant. That would be 3 more flights dropped from US' feeble yet sizable network at PIT, unless they'd add frequencies to MDT to PIT, hopefully using larger aircraft, but I don't think that will happen...



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User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3103 times:

Where in the hell do these people of Lancaster want to fly to? Your not going to tell me that most of these people can't make connections in Pittsburgh just fine.


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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9211 posts, RR: 20
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3059 times:

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 8):
Where in the hell do these people of Lancaster want to fly to? Your not going to tell me that most of these people can't make connections in Pittsburgh just fine.

And it's a good place to connect through:

Good location, very nice terminal, not confusing...

I guess some of the pax might want to come into Lancaster from Latin America; Lancaster's latin population is skyrocketing. Then again... the thought of this is just rediculous...

Or...

Maybe some farmers want to go to some international farmers convention up in canada or over in Europe someplace...

Yeah... that's it. HAHA!!!

Really, it kinda sucks for both PIT and MDT, and as 777DadandJr said in his IM, it's a load of crap...

Another thing to add here... The article states that the loads on those PIT flights from LNS are below 60%. Given that the planes are 19 seaters, they only have 10 people on them?

Give... Me... A... BREAK!!!!

[Edited 2006-07-19 04:15:37]

[Edited 2006-07-19 04:17:54]


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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 43
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2991 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 7):
The reason why LNS is getting such an offer is because of the reduced service at PIT...

No, the reason is because the EAS contract is up for bid, and RegionsAir is bidding on every contract that comes up in the area.

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 7):
If this starts up, I hope it's negative impacts on the LNS-PIT flights aren't too significant.

As is fully explained in the other thread, it's a choice between RegionsAir and Air Midwest. RegionsAir will NOT be selected, but if they were, it would mean the end of the LNS-PIT flights.



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User currently offline777DadandJr From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 1516 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2946 times:

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 7):
as would someone from the close vicinity of Harrisburg (i.e. Middletown, Hershey, etc...)

Indeed!
Do you know how close LNS is to MDT?
It's probably a 15 minute drive up 283. When you are coming in to MDT on rwy 31, you can clearly see LNS from the plane! That's how close it is!

Quoting Steeler83 (Reply 9):
The article states that the loads on those PIT flights from LNS are below 60%. Given that the planes are 19 seaters, they only have 10 people on them?

To add to that, being that MDT's loads have been around 71%, wouldn't it make sense to put those 10 people on a flight from MDT?

I still think a shuttle from MDT-EWR would work, given that the train still takes 3 hours from Harrisburg, to NYC. CO would just make sense.

Russ

PS: BTW, does anyone know why LNS gets the privilege of a "mouse-over" ident on A.net, but MDT does not????



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User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2770 times:

Quoting A330323X (Reply 10):
As is fully explained in the other thread, it's a choice between RegionsAir and Air Midwest. RegionsAir will NOT be selected, but if they were, it would mean the end of the LNS-PIT flights.

So Air Midwest (US Airways Express) is going to continue the service through Pittsburgh?



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User currently offlineSteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9211 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2672 times:

Quoting 777DadandJr (Reply 11):
It's probably a 15 minute drive up 283.

It takes me 35 minutes to get from the Harrisburg-East exit off the turnpike to get to PA-741/US 30... I guess the 15 minutes is without traffic on PA-283...

Yes, the fields are close, 10-15 miles apart roughly. Again, when traffic is heavy, the times I have taken 283 it was, it's a slow drive. Then again, I was on that road around the evening rush. Go figure...

Quoting A330323X (Reply 10):
RegionsAir will NOT be selected, but if they were, it would mean the end of the LNS-PIT flights.

Then THANK GOD that RegionsAir isn't being selected...

Quoting 777DadandJr (Reply 11):
To add to that, being that MDT's loads have been around 71%, wouldn't it make sense to put those 10 people on a flight from MDT?

Then those loads would be close to being full (>95%...)



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User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2665 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2572 times:

Don't you have to be so far from a major airport to qualify for EAS?? I'm not sure what the mileage is , but LNS is only about 1.5-2 hours from PHL


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User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 43
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2542 times:

Quoting CentPIT (Reply 12):
So Air Midwest (US Airways Express) is going to continue the service through Pittsburgh?

Read the other thread because I'm sick of repeating myself over and over and over.

Quoting Nkops (Reply 14):
Don't you have to be so far from a major airport to qualify for EAS?? I'm not sure what the mileage is , but LNS is only about 1.5-2 hours from PHL

I answered that question in the other thread, as well as about four other threads in the last week.  Smile



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User currently offlineNkops From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2665 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 2368 times:

Quoting A330323X (Reply 15):
I answered that question in the other thread, as well as about four other threads in the last week

I don't read every thread... I do have a life you know (well, sometimes!!)
 Big grin



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