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User currently offline767-300ER From United States of America, joined May 1999, 130 posts, RR: 0
Posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2290 times:

ok, i really like the dc-10 dont get me wrong. but they are old, mechanics who work on the d10s in houston say they wouldnt fly the 10s as far as Brazil, they wouldnt feel comfortable flying it cause of the maintnance on them, the flights from iah-gru, which are one of the few international flights left from houston, on the 10s are delayed almost everytime the flight departs b/c of maintnance, or if not delayed, Cancelled. people who fly this route frequently, such as business travellers arrive @ the departure gate and flat out ask, how long is the delay? the 10 is great, but they are becoming too old. the DC-10s flying out there are always plagued w/ maintnance problems. i cant wait till CO puts the 767 on the IAH-GRU route in December.

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User currently offlineDelta777-XXX From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1017 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2031 times:

I'm sorry but... I don't like Continental... nothing against you people who do. I think that Continental probably treats the DC-10 like crap! Other DC-10s are in better shape than that.


   


User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 1977 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2004 times:
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What is the point of this thread?

"CO's 10s will be gone soon." So what? Everyone knows this.

CO's DC10 flights to Zurich, LGW(EWR morning flight), and Dusseldorf have an outstanding on-time record. Is that supposed to prove anything?


"I think that CO probably treats the DC10 like crap! Other DC10s are in better shape than that."

My, my what brilliant, articulate comments we have on this thread ladies and gentlemen.


User currently offlineDelta777-XXX From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1017 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1992 times:

LOL!!! Klwright69... you are right!   sorry guys!  

User currently offlineAdam84 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1400 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1983 times:

I flew 2 CO DC-10-30's in the Hawaii configuration, they were the cleanest 10's (inside and out) that I have ever seen. My only gripe was the comfort level in coach was nothing to write home about.To Delta777-XXX, I guess your airline DL treats the L1011 like its the queen of the fleet, anyhow how do you "think" they treat the 10 like crap?

User currently offlineDelta777-XXX From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1017 posts, RR: 8
Reply 5, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

Adam84... I was just being difficult... sorry.

But... if you think about it... you find more people scared to fly DC-10s than L-1011s. Delta has done a great job with the L-1011 if you ask me. MOST people enjoy their Delta L-1011 flights. Continental just suks if you ask me. Just my opinion though. The CEO really pisses me off. He thinks he some kind of a big shot or something. The paint scheme is boreing too... but that doesn't have anything to do with it.  


User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 1977 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1970 times:
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Of course I'm "wRIGHT"! That's not my name by accident you know! LOL!!!

User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 10992 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

Delta777-XXX is still jilted by the recent Gordon Bethune comment about Delta.


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User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 1977 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1959 times:
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Well looking at what CO's CEO has done, you have to give him some latitude in the bragging department.

User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 1977 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1953 times:
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Yes, I know D L X. You gotta love it!

User currently offlineCba From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 4530 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1929 times:

CO's DC-10s, although old, are in much better condition then some of NW's old DC-10-40's. All of CO's DC-10's will be gone in another year, they are being replaced by 762's, 764's, and 777's.

Personally, I like CO's livery. It looks really nice, and especially nice on the 777 and 764. And don't even start about Gordon Bethune. He has done great things for that airline. CO was one of the crappiest airlines up until a few years ago. He's really turned them around.


User currently offlineTWAneedsNOhelp From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Cba, you don't say? Co has been turned around and used to be one of the crappiest airlines???? Boy I guess my head has been stuck in a cave! AND GUESS WHAT, YOU "PERSONALLY" LIKE CO'S LIVERY!!!!!! Because if you "professionally" liked CO's livery than.......oh the insanity that would cause!

Now about CO's route map.....if they bought Alaska, Airtran, and Reeve Aleutian, err add Pakistan Int'l to the mix, than we'd really see a world class carrier take shape!



User currently offlineDelta777-XXX From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1017 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

Continental is and will always be a crappy airline in my mind!

Although back to the DC-10. I used to hate it... but now it's not so bad. It is still not on my favorite's list... but it seems like a good airplane.

Gordon Bethune... hmm.... he is an @$$. The "recent comments" that he made did kinda make me mad,but he seems kinda... i dunno. I don't know him so... i shouldn't be judging him. But by what I have heard... he is not someone that I would like.


User currently offlineKlwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 1977 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1912 times:
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TWAneedsNOhelp, since you brought up route maps, isn't the new acronym for TWA "Teeny Weeny Airlines?" I 've heard it's almost official!

User currently offlineAdam84 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1400 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1901 times:

Why do you hate CO so much? Because they have treated you badly, or just because they told Delta to get a life?

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29693 posts, RR: 59
Reply 15, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1898 times:

CO buy Reeve???

As a former Reever I might have been offended by that.





OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1890 times:

Let me get this straight- You think Continental's scheme is boring? Then obviously you haven't seen the new DL colors yet. Or your father is Leo Mullin.

User currently offlineAWA320 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1888 times:

OK this is ridiculous... you may not like Continental, but what exactly are you complaining about???? You haven't exactly given any valid points for hating Continental or Gordon Bethune.

Gordon Bethune has done a terrific job with Continental Airlines... He has every right to brag. I think you're just mad because he said "Delta needs to get a life." Rejection.

Anyways, I've personally met Gordon and he's a VERY friendly person... probably the most down to earth, nice guy, CEO of any airline. He's real, and you can actually tell exactly what he cares about.

Delta is a great carrier... I'm not bashing Delta here. I'm just having some trouble figuring out why you hate Continental and Gordon so much.


User currently offline767-300ER From United States of America, joined May 1999, 130 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1879 times:

im talkin about DC-10s maintnance, not delta vs cal

User currently offlineSOUTHPACIFIC From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

Aloha!
AWA 320, you actaully met Gordon Bethune?! Wow, that's an accomplishment!! Congrats.

As far as CO's livery, I love it! I love the meat ball tail especially. I think though the livery could use a blue belly under the gold stripe below the windows. That'd spice it up a bit!  

I agree the Gordon does have some bragging to do, but I think he can do it without insulting another airline. Remember, bad remarks just breed more bad remarks. Delta lovers now hate his ass!!

Speaking of hate, why can't we quit fighting here, guys? Can't we have a clean discussion here? Nobody has to go kicking other people in the ass to make a point here, no fighting required!!

BTW, I like CO, but I am not offended by people's comments here!! I guess I don't have a very short fuse!!
 

One thing though, when I get out of college, I might have to opportunity to work for CO as an internship plan my college, Sierra Academy, offers, and I'd be proud to do it!!!

SOUTHPACIFIC


User currently offlineDelta777-XXX From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1017 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1868 times:

You guys are right! I liked Continental untill Gordon Bethune opened his big mouth. I guess I am just immature. "short fuse" is exactly what I have. Anyways... I'll cool down eventually.  

User currently offlineLahaina From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 258 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

Why can't you people act like civilized adults and stop bashing one another. We are all entitiled to our opinions, but can't we state them in a more professional, diplomatic way. I have flown CO, delta, NW, TWA, UAL, Hawaiian, and Aloha. I have had good services and bad services on all of them--which is mainly flight crew dependent. I flew HNL to LAX on Delta and back to HNL recently, with excellent service to LAX and lousy service back to HNL. The L-10ll broke down at Salt Lake City, and the flight was cancelled. Waited in LAX for the last flight home. Delta didn't even offer me the option of putting me on a different carrier. Flew NW on the same route as well. On the way back to HNL, the plane broke down, and I was offered the option of going on Hawaiian or wait for the next available NW flight to HNL. I have flown CO to EWR from HNL, EWR to FLL, FLL to Houston, back to HNL. The planes all left on time, including the DC10-30 to EWR and Houston to HNL. I also noted that the HNL to EWR service was much better than Houston to HNL, due to a grumpy flight attendant. I also had the same experience on Hawaiian and UAL. The only airline that I have flown on which provided consistently good service was SQ.

So guys, keep cool. Stop bad mouthing one another. You are entitled to your opinions, and if you state them diplomatically and tactfully, this website would be a much nicer place to visit.


User currently offlineAdam84 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1400 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1833 times:

How long was the IAH-HNL leg? When I flew it in June we left about 25 minutes late (not a mechanical delay), yet we got into HNL about 30 mins early. Anyhow on my flight there was a flight attendant that didnt seem to be to happy about her job, she wasnt rude or anything, she just looked and sounded very very unhappy.

User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1831 times:

Some of the comments posted here, particularly those by Delta 777-XXX are totally incoherent and really not
very well thought out or factually correct.

Continental's DC10-30's (all 24 of them) are old and
do require more maintenance, but the airline spent a
lot of time upgrading interiors and comfort levels on
them. These are some of the cleanest DC10's you
will ever fly on. As for their realibility, they are some
of the best performers in the Continental system.
I recently flew a DC10-30 from Houston to Newark
and again from Houston to London/Gatwick. Both
flights were on time, trouble free as far as any
maintenance goes, and perfectly comfortable and
well maintained.

The DC10's will be aggressively replaced one for
one by the 767-400's, and 767-200's as well as
2 more 777's.

It's your priviledge not to like an airline as well
as to state it, but at least know what you are
talking about before you make bold statements!

The Houston-Sao Paolo flight has an 85% on
time record according to many internet travel
websites that measure these things. You can
also check with the airline (no one ever really
does) but they are required to tell you. That
is pretty good. After all, in a difficult summer
exacerbated by greedy pilots and an over-
stretched system, Continental achieved the
best on-time performance, even improving
it from the year before, over all US airlines,
including pesky little Southwest.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineAdam84 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 1400 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (13 years 7 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1819 times:

Everyone dont let Delta777-XXX get you down, he kinda stretches the truth a little bit, for example on his profile it says he is 26-35 years old, but on his webpage he says he just started high school.

25 Lahaina : The flying time from Houston-Honolulu was about 8 hours 30 minutes. Honolulu-Houston is about 7h 45 minutes (I was told that this is due to tail wind)
26 FLY777UAL : 767-300, just to show you how jaded you are by the mechanics, I've had more mechanical-related delays with the 777 than the DC-10 if you compare actua
27 Ben88 : Delta777-XXX, Be careful what you say. You may beg CO to hire you one day. If you think that you're just going to cruise through flight school and the
28 EWR757 : Ben: Good reply, but it would probably go unheard. When you're dealing with the ignorant, facts and logic are lost within the delusional mind. Our 10
29 Mx5_boy : My oh my, It's interesting that American airlines still fly these dreadful (but sexy) three hole-ers? Does no-one remember the reason why MDC had to m
30 TheCroupier : I see Gordon B. at Kroger once or twice a month. Completely friendly. Yep, he does his own grocery shopping - pushing the cart and comparing prices.
31 Nwa747-400 : No major airline treats its aircraft like crap guys. be realistic. If airlines treated aircraft like crap they would be falling out of the sky left, r
32 Post contains images Delta777-XXX : Alright... I'm sorry guys. Continental is okay. My statements were not based on facts... at all. They just my opinion. The only thing that I am mad ab
33 Post contains images SOUTHPACIFIC : Aloha! DL777-XXX, it takes a very brave man to do what you jut did, you have balls, man! Three cheers to DL777-XXX!!!! SOUTHPACIFIC
34 SKYTEAM : Continental is one of the best airlines in the world, But the DC-10 is one of the worst aircraft ever built. I cant wait to fly on one of Continental'
35 CAL737Pilot : Folks, You know not what you talk if you think the DC 10 is a bad plane. Highly reliable, versatile airplane with very simple mechanical systems. I wa
36 SKYTEAM : 1. The DC-10 was grounded at one point of time. 2. The DC-10 is a poor persons L-1011. 3. The DC-10 was poorly built!!! SKYTEAM
37 Exnonrev : You just proved CAL737Pilot's point. Let's take your three examples: 1. The DC-10 grounding was the FAA's caving in to the media hysteria and related
38 Post contains images Delta777-XXX : Let's not turn this into a DC-10 vs L-1011 thing. 767-300ER said that he had nothing against the DC-10 and neither do I. Let's just drop it.
39 Post contains images Superfly : My best DC-10 experiences were on CO and American. The first CO experience was in 1986 LAX-ORD with a stop at Denver's Stapleton airport. I like the o
40 Wingman : I hate DC10s too! I dated one of them once and she dumped me for a 744. I was heartbroken and very very depressed for a long time. I should've known s
41 Ishky15 : HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....... Not
42 RayChuang : Since CO is an ETOPS-certified airline (otherwise they couldn't fly the 772ER and soon the 764ER on long overwater routes), I think that CO has over 2
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