Lredlefsen From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 151 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 9738 times:
So... they've built and flown 6 airframes, yet plan to deliver only 1 this year (barely!).
What's the status of the remaining 5 airframes? I gather there's a problem with the electrical harnesses, etc. Are they going to have to refit all of them one by one before customer delivery? Or are the first 6 machines going to be hand-built "one-offs", ie the wiring harnesses in those are OK for customer delivery, but mass-production has hit a snag?
I have no doubt that the A380 is going to be a long-term success.
WingedMigrator From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 2066 posts, RR: 56 Reply 3, posted (7 years 5 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 9655 times:
MSN001 F-WWOW is at the Farnborough airshow
MSN002 F-WXXL is in Toulouse (?) with a 474-seat test cabin
MSN003 F-WWSA is in Hamburg for cabin fitting for Singapore Airlines
MSN004 F-WWDD is in Abu Dhabi for hot weather testing
MSN005 F-WWSB is in Hamburg for cabin fitting for Singapore Airlines
MSN007 F-WWSD is in Hamburg for cabin fitting (another three-class test cabin)
MSN009 F-WWEA (with GP7200 engines) is supposed to fly by the end of this month. Notice the new EA registration for Engine Alliance
They are both on the assembly line and will both go to Singapore Airlines when completed. MSN008 was used for a show-and-tell for the media a few weeks ago to illustrate the difficulties Airbus was having with the wiring and how they were being resolved. I'm told that, besides French newspapers, Flight International was there as well...
Leelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 10, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5118 times:
Quoting WingedMigrator (Reply 3): MSN007 F-WWSD is in Hamburg for cabin fitting (another three-class test cabin)
IIRC, this aircraft was originally scheduled to be re-engined with GP7200s during the flight-test program for route proving of the EA engine. I didn't see any mention of re-engining this aircraft in the FI article; perhaps the second program delay has obviated the necessity of doing this as the schedule isn't quite as compressed as before?
Lredlefsen From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 151 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (7 years 5 months 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 3144 times:
Quoting NAV20 (Reply 4): It's already been a pretty LONG term, though.
Come on -- it's a brand new plane!
I know nothing about airplane design for fun or profit (I'm a SW engineer by trade), but it seems like this is a complicated project.
Is there anything on this machine that isn't new, or treading new territory? It's a brand-new fuselage, new wing, new gear, ... did I mention it's really, really big?
Yes, they've slipped their schedule, and yes, they're having some problems, and they're probably not going to make any profits on it for quite some time... but 10 years from now, won't we look back at the slips, problems, etc as blips in history? (Either that, or the thing that killed Airbus, I guess...)
I'm sure there will be other slips in similarly ambitious projects. The 787 project is having hiccups (although those seem to be under control for now, according to Boeing), I'm sure next-gen products from both competitors will have problems along the way...
Heck, Toyota just recalled like half a million (!!) cars. The difference with cars is that if your single engine fails, you pull over.
Nudelhirsch From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 1438 posts, RR: 19 Reply 14, posted (7 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2635 times:
Quoting Moparman (Reply 17): 'm not critizising the A380 either. I think it's just plain overblown when someone installs a toilet seat on one, that there is immediate mention of it calling it "news".
True to some point, but people like Aboulafia make news out of it, and Leelaw and BoomBomm spend all day looking for the news and posting them here when Aboulafia then announces that the toilet seat is slightly less comfortable than the one on a Boeing...
Apart from that, it's a new model, one that already created a ton of news, so another of them flying is newsworthy too. It'll quiet soon as they start delivering, we'll then see 10 threads per day about how Boeing is baking the 787 and when those start flying, there will be the same hype. This is an aviation site, and for us, this is news...
Leelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (7 years 5 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2353 times:
Quoting Nudelhirsch (Reply 14): Leelaw and BoomBomm spend all day looking for the news and posting them here when Aboulafia then announces that the toilet seat is slightly less comfortable than the one on a Boeing...
Thankfully, the membership can rely on you and other vigilant members with superior understanding of the subject matter to immediately debunk the boatloads of nonsense we post originating in the mainstream media and specialized trade publications.