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Major Qantas Japan & Hong Kong Changes  
User currently offlineFuffla From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 401 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 6339 times:

Changes to Qantas International Operations - Tokyo, Hong Kong, Auckland, Singapore

Qantas Airways will be implementing a series of changes to its Tokyo operations, effective from the 2nd of October 2006. The changes are as follows -


The current daily 743 service between Tokyo and Sydney will be replaced by eleven (11) services per week between Tokyo and Sydney, operated by A330-300 aircraft. The days where there will be two services operating will be Monday, Wednesday, Friday and Sunday.


The current timings of the QF 21/22 will remain. The additional four (4) services will be operated at the current Melbourne / Narita timings.


The current daily 763 service between Tokyo and Melbourne will now be operated by A330-300 aircraft and will be operated four (4) times per week - nonstop on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday and one-stop via Sydney on Sunday. On other days domestic connections will still be available via Sydney.


The current three (3) per week A330-300 service between Tokyo and Perth will be changed to a 763 operation. No change to timings will be made.

[Edited 2006-07-21 14:34:17]

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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4923 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6246 times:

What changes are there at Hong Kong, Singapore and Auckland?


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User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5525 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6191 times:

Does anyone know where the B743 will be utilised after being removed from SYD-NRT?
I think these changes being made to coincide with with the start Jetstar International

Quoting Humberside (Reply 1):
What changes are there at Hong Kong, Singapore and Auckland?

The changes with AKL are probably in regards to the new codeshare agreement which may come into effect in OCT 2006 i think


User currently offlineFly2YYZ From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 1046 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6008 times:

Are QF even still operating to BOM? Maybe they can deploy them on this route and quit the DRW stop? At least this is what I thought they were doing.

User currently offlineMalpensaSFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6008 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 1):
What changes are there at Hong Kong, Singapore and Auckland?

Wasnt the heading about more than Tokyo?


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8142 posts, RR: 54
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5967 times:

Goddamit, I want to know about Singapore, Auckland and Hong Kong RIGHT NOW!!


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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7591 posts, RR: 42
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5866 times:

Has QF determined already whether it will serve SYD-CNS-NGO with mainline QF planes after the demise of Australian Airlines, or if this route will go to JetStar?


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User currently offlineANstar From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2003, 5263 posts, RR: 7
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5778 times:

Quoting Cedarjet (Reply 5):
Goddamit, I want to know about Singapore, Auckland and Hong Kong RIGHT NOW!!

I presume Hong Kon would be due to the loss of skybed on those routes from SYD/PER/BNE????

As for AKL & SIN no idea


User currently offlineCRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5768 times:

So why IS MEL being cut, is this because of the upcoming codeshares with OneWorld between JL and QF?


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User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5525 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5640 times:

Quoting Fly2YYZ (Reply 3):
Are QF even still operating to BOM? Maybe they can deploy them on this route and quit the DRW stop? At least this is what I thought they were doing.

QF are still operating to BOM with a TECH stop ub DRW. They used to operate a direct service to BOM with the B743


User currently offlineBA787 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2006, 2596 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5601 times:

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 2):
Does anyone know where the B743

How old is the B743


User currently offlineFuffla From Australia, joined Feb 2004, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5457 times:

Singapore is still a mystery, since there was nothing about it where the information came from. I am presuming that the Auckland changes are the trans-tasman agreement with Air New Zealand.

763's will replace all BNE-HKG-BNE, PER-HKG-PER and some QF187/188 SYD-HKG-SYD services from October.


User currently offlineJupiter2 From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 906 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5397 times:

In regards to the 743's, the only international flight I could find them doing is the SYD/HNL, 3 times a week.

However there are twice daily PER/MEL and twice daily PER/SYD flights on the domestic front.

Having had a quick look at the QF on line schedule, I cannot see many extra flights except the additional SYD/NRT flights with the 333's replacing 743's. I presume what growth there may be will be sighted when the Jetstar flights are loaded into the system.

RL


User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1563 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5337 times:

Quoting Fuffla (Reply 11):


763's will replace all BNE-HKG-BNE, PER-HKG-PER and some QF187/188 SYD-HKG-SYD services from October.

What about services MEL-HKG-MEL? Any changes on that route?



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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5351 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5317 times:

Quoting CXA330300 (Reply 13):
What about services MEL-HKG-MEL? Any changes on that route?

No that service remains a daily 744 continuing to LHR!

AKL will lose 1 daily flight from SYD the afternoon flight ex AKL QF119/120.

I notice CNS-DRW-SIN goes daily from 5 weekly 763's. Not sure if there is more or not.


User currently offlineJupiter2 From Australia, joined Jan 2001, 906 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5311 times:

MEL/HKG/MEL is still part of the QF29/30 service to LHR, daily 744.

MEL looses out on the NRT flights, goes from daily 763 to 4 weekly 333's, 3 non stop, one via SYD.

RL


User currently offlineBlrBird From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5293 times:

Quoting Humberside (Reply 1):
What changes are there at Hong Kong, Singapore and Auckland?

SIN:
QF81 Adelaide - SIN 3x weekly(Th,Sat,Tu) will be extended to SYD.

AKL:
4x daily instead of 5x now.



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User currently offlineAndrewtang From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 461 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5250 times:

It's shocking to see QF downgrading PER-HKG-PER & certain SYD-HKG-SYD flights from A330 to B763.

Considering they changed it to Airbus A330 to be more competitive with CX.


User currently offlineAlaskaqantas From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 905 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5191 times:

Qantas right now is trying to get rid of the 747-300, so part of this could be that they are trying to slowly get them out of their fleet.

Quoting BA787 (Reply 10):
How old is the B743

yup.
It was put into service 03/28/1983 and the first airline to buy it was Swissair, then the last delivery was in 1990 to Sabena. The -300 was the first 747 to really change, the upper deck was extended, they moved the circular stairwell to the back and made it straight. it also had better engines, thus resulting in 25% less fuel burn per passenger. -300 also increased passenger loads by 10% (mainly because of the extended upperdeck and the move of the stairwell to the back) there were 81 aircrafts made in total.

theres alittle history on the -300 if you want to know anything more I got my information from www.boeing.com

I'm glad Qantas has gone for 45 787 aircrafts, they look amazing!
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User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5525 posts, RR: 18
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5191 times:

Quoting BA787 (Reply 10):
How old is the B743

i'm not sure how old it is but is has been refurbished and will stay in the fleet for at least another 4 to 5 yrs


User currently offlineAlaskaqantas From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 905 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5154 times:

Quoting VHVXB (Reply 19):
has been refurbished and will stay in the fleet for at least another 4 to 5 yrs

what kind of refurbishment?
for the seats last I heard (back in April when my brother flew the -300) that it still had the old business class seats. he said that they seemed less nice then the old 747-400 seats.
I don't know if you mean refurbished in any other way, or possibly if they been done up since April.
As of July 1st Qantas has 6 747-300
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User currently offlineAirnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5144 times:

OK...here is what i just got out of a 767-300ER captain...

SIN/HKG/HNL changes

As of October 767 aircrafts will be flying to these destinations... from PER/ADL/SYD/BNE/MEL.

HNL will no longer see the 747-300...it is going to a 767 aircraft.

AKL will see the 747-300 on QF43/44 as per years gone by.

Cheers hope that helps.


User currently offlineVHVXB From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 5525 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5084 times:

Quoting Alaskaqantas (Reply 20):

The QF B743 were refurbished and reconfigured for High density routes. Basically the have had PTV's Installed as well as new seats

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User currently offlineAirnewzealand From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 2542 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5053 times:

2012 to be exact...

they ae the only aircraft Qantas own.


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5351 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 4745 times:

Quoting Airnewzealand (Reply 21):
AKL will see the 747-300 on QF43/44 as per years gone by.

I hope so, especially now that QF119/120 is gone.

QF's first 743 VH-EBT arrived in November 1984 and EBY the last in May 1987.

Quoting Alaskaqantas (Reply 20):
for the seats last I heard (back in April when my brother flew the -300) that it still had the old business class seats. he said that they seemed less nice then the old 747-400 seats.

They are the same seats as the old 744 J seats.

Quoting Alaskaqantas (Reply 20):
As of July 1st Qantas has 6 747-300

VH-EBU Nalanji Dreaming is stored and won't fly again, QF basically have 4 in service with a 5th used as an operational spare depending on maintanence.


25 Fuffla : It still does not make sense to me for QF to downgrade HKG services from SYD, BNE and PER to an inferior 763 product while NRT is getting all the 333'
26 United Airline : I suppose this is only temporary. QF's B 747-300 will remain in service for at least another 5-7 years. They have just been refurblished. The B 747-40
27 Cloudyapple : Well from a utilization point of view it does - if you knew they fly the A333s here in the afternoon, park on a remote for 6 hours until departing la
28 NZ107 : I'm pleased about that! Nice to see that it will be regular.. Far too many 763's heading here making the scenery quite boring. What are the main reas
29 Fuffla : Then why not park a 743? The 763's would use a lot less fuel than the old 743's, the 763's are also in higher demand in the local market, with domest
30 ANstar : Exactly. The cost fo running & maintaining these birds is now getting prohibitive despite them being fully owned. As soon as the A380's come on line
31 ANstar : I wonder how many will be in use after these changes. SYD-PER 2 x daily (1 aircraft) SYD-HNL 3 weekly The other 743 routes seem to be 763 (ie SYD-MNL
32 Planemanofnz : When are the 743's coming to AKL? Will they be here for mid-September?
33 ANstar : All the other changes ar ein the schedules, I don;t see any sign of the 743 going to AKL
34 Airbus A3XX : FYI.... one of QF's flights to NRT arrives at around 6am in the morning and does not depart until around 20:00 in the evening which equates to nearly
35 Post contains images OHLBU : Can the A333 do SYD-NRT comfortably without payload restrictions? I'm planning to non-rev back from Down Under to Europe in Oct and via NRT is one pos
36 ZK-NBT : Yes, SYD-NRT is not that far, 10 hours maybe. Yes she was due for a D-check and QF decided for some other reasons that EBU would not be required in f
37 Airnewzealand : FYI- All these changes are due to the A330-200 going to Jetstar intl. Watch for a release soon regarding other aircraft/destination changes. The other
38 Fuffla : Unfortunately, she is more valuable to QF in pieces than as an aircraft. 743 spare parts are somewhat of a rarity these days that it is essential for
39 Qantas077 : Syd-Per-Syd twice daily Mel-Per-Mel twice daily due to the A332 being removed from domestic service and put into Jetstar operations.
40 VHVXB : Thank for that Qantas077. Now that gives more reasons to go Perth and the west
41 Alaskaqantas : ohh okay thanks, thats good to know! thats what I had heard. the 747-300 is heavier and less fuel Efficient, plus it can't take off with as much payl
42 VHVXB : oh well that is obvious the B743 is an older A/C then B744. Well they are planning to get rid of them in 2010-2012 so the A380 will arrive by then. I
43 ANstar : Yes - but when they were refurbished & had D checks oil wasn;t at the price it is today. I doubt they will stay till 2010-2012
44 VHVXB : yeah probably once the B787 arrive
45 Post contains links VHVXB : Heres an article to Fuffla's thread http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...okyo/2006/07/21/1153166582940.html
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