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Chautauqua Will Fly 44 RJ's For CO  
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5857 times:

http://www.continental.com/vendors/d...4B4CCFA6585FC275087D96&s=&i=PRNews
Then go to the first press release listed.

Good news, as this will fill some of the gap left by the departure of the 69 xjt aircraft.

Add the 24 Q400's that CommutAir will take a hold of, and that pretty much makes up for everything.

[Edited 2006-07-21 20:39:14]

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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3420 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5832 times:

so it seems that 44 50 seat RJ plus the 24 Q400's will replace the 69 ER4's Express Jet is pulling out of the CO system. Although the Q400's aren't finalized yet, I have to assume this is CO's plan versus losing 25 RJ's worth of capacity overnight...

User currently offlineCslusarc From Canada, joined May 2005, 843 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5808 times:

-It may take years for those 24 Q400s to arrive.

-where will Chataqua source 44 50-seat RJs?
-will they be crj-200s or erj145s?



--cslusarc from YWG
User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3420 posts, RR: 16
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5717 times:

Quoting Cslusarc (Reply 2):
It may take years for those 24 Q400s to arrive.

the order book for Q400's is hardly large. They could get them as fast as Bombardier could make them. The RFP for them went out a while ago, so an announcement could be made very soon which would still leave 3-5 months before next year...

I was wondering where the 50 seaters were coming from as well (and what type) - also wondering where the 69 Express Jet RJ's will end up.


User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5713 times:

Will be E145's delivered fresh from the factory, if not they will come from our DL codeshare.



Sean



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently onlineTVNWZ From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 2409 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5713 times:

Quoting Cslusarc (Reply 2):
where will Chataqua source 44 50-seat RJs?

I was in Tucson Monday and Tuesday. One stop shopping. Tons there just waiting to go somewhere. Lots of Flyi birds.


User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5651 times:

We do not want nor need CRJ's, our CEO has stated that emphatically. There are still plenty of E145's coming off the line in Brazil plus if we get rid of our DL codeshare that will free up some jets there. Also we still have 4-11 months before service is supposed to start.



Sean



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineBNAtraveler From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 412 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5634 times:
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Interesting that RP will operate as Continental Express per the press release and not as Continental Connection.

User currently offlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5599 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5594 times:

Quoting PVD757 (Reply 1):
so it seems that 44 50 seat RJ plus the 24 Q400's will replace the 69 ER4's Express Jet

Plus CommutAir is adding 16 planes larger than their B1900s. How many are growth and how many are replacement, they haven't said.



I love long German words like 'Freundschaftsbezeigungen'.
User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2450 posts, RR: 30
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5504 times:

Quoting BNAtraveler (Reply 7):
Interesting that RP will operate as Continental Express per the press release and not as Continental Connection.

Not really all that interesting....Continental Connection flies turboprops... Continental Express flies jets....

Now...my question. Is there any actual confirmation that there were 24 Q400's ordered? I dont' remember seeing anything offical on it.....

 coffee 



You can't fix stupid.... - Ron White
User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5481 times:

Also the press release does not say anything about replacing the other a/c being removed from service. So I do not see where the Q400's are coming from. Re-read the press release:



http://yahoo.reuters.com/financeQuot...06-07-21_19-26-08_n21197850_newsml



Sean



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5456 times:

Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 9):
Now...my question. Is there any actual confirmation that there were 24 Q400's ordered? I dont' remember seeing anything offical on it.....

Very valid question, there has been a lot of talk about CO and the Q400.....and its more than just rumors, the talk is based in fact. CO has been studying the Q400 for quite a while; and everyone seems to know its 24 airplanes: 12 of which will to be based at EWR with the other 12 based at IAH but the Q400s will make appearances at CLE. As for anything official, I also dont remember anything being officially announced.

It is interesting to note that in this latest press release, CO specifically says that it does not plan on replacing the 25 remaining regional jets (69 - 44 = 25).....what do you make of that statement?


User currently offlineS5FA170 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 534 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5360 times:

Our CEO has stated both that 20 of the 44 aircraft are already firmly sourced, and our company does have and is exploring the option of operating 50 seat CRJ's for Continental Express.

Never say never.

-Tony



Prepare doors for departure and cross-check.
User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7768 posts, RR: 27
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5284 times:

I can't imagine CHQ obtaining new aircraft for this, considering the way the regional industry is going and the glut of RJ's sitting out in the desert.

User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5279 times:

Quoting Cactus739 (Reply 9):
Not really all that interesting....Continental Connection flies turboprops... Continental Express flies jets....

Not really....
Continental Express is a part of main line Continental.
Continental Connection is contracted service.

Any new service not part of Expressjet, either jet or turboprop will be Continental Connection. This also marks the fourth carrier, not second as the artical said. You have Expressjet, Colgan, Regions Air and now Chautauqua.

[Edited 2006-07-22 01:28:07]


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5254 times:

However we are actually going to be referred to as COEX. Not CoConnect.


I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 16, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5234 times:

Good, maybe RP will transfer my application over to Chautauqua. I couldnt attend the May 25 due me being in school.

Hope all this works out.

MCOflyer



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5227 times:

Your application is for all 3 companies, not just for one. Call HR and check your status for a new class date. I know we have a CHQ class starting next week.



Sean



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5212 times:

Thanks. I will call HR on tomarrow on my break.

MCOflyer



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5212 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 14):
You have Expressjet, Colgan, Regions Air and now Chautauqua.

And don't forget Commutair.


User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5206 times:

How you gonna call HR on Sat. Wait until Monday.


Sean



I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5196 times:

Quoting Falcon84 (Reply 19):
And don't forget Commutair

...and Gulfstream.

I just read the Continental press release. I guess they are talking 'Continental Express'..which there will now be two. Very odd as I always understood that Connection was used on everything other then Ejet..



"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 22, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5190 times:

Jet is Express and turboprop is Connection


I Don't know where I am anymore
User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8690 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5185 times:

If I get employed I thank FutureFO. Congrats on RP. They're number 1 in my books.

FutureFO,

I sent you a message. I hope you get it.

MCOflyer



Never be afraid to stand up for who you are.
User currently offlineCactus739 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2450 posts, RR: 30
Reply 24, posted (8 years 5 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5128 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 11):
It is interesting to note that in this latest press release, CO specifically says that it does not plan on replacing the 25 remaining regional jets (69 - 44 = 25).....what do you make of that statement?

I don't know what to make of it. The way it reads they're just saying bye bye to those 25 planes, and therefore saying bye bye to about 150-200ish flights a day that those 25 planes would operate. (assuming 6-8 flights each a day) Unless they have some strategy up their sleeve that we obviously don't know about, that's a huge chunk of flights to drop....so they almost have to replace them with something. SO the Q400 rumors might be true... but I've come to not believe very much on here without some sort of source.... too many threads go on and on without any kind of solid proof (i.e. the new B6 city thread today)

Quoting FutureFO (Reply 22):
Jet is Express and turboprop is Connection

Thanks for repeating what I said hours ago  Smile

 coffee 



You can't fix stupid.... - Ron White
25 Lt-AWACS : From the news post: Chautauqua, a subsidiary of Republic Airways Holdings Inc. (Nasdaq: RJET), will operate 50-seat regional jets on Continental's beh
26 Post contains links and images EMBQA : Until today, that was not a true statment.... View Large View MediumPhoto © Geoff OttingerView Large View MediumPhoto © Yo Tanaka[Edited 20
27 FutureFO : Back in the day when the Be-1900's and the EMB120 and the ATR were around. I am talking of current conditions. Sean
28 Mitchell Gant : It appears that the first victim of the 25 departing airplanes is Boise. CO looks to be discontinuing IAH-BOI service effective 21 Sept.
29 ANNOYEDFA : So much for a uniform product........ Kellner is slowly killing everything Gordon has done and everyone is noticing it.
30 Post contains images Wyorca : A brand new Chautauqua FO and you think you know everything? I got hired with what, maybe 1000 hours? I've been reading your kool aid laced posts for
31 WestIndian425 : Well, I'm certainly glad that Chatauqua is going to find the planes to fulfill this service agreement. I'm sure ExpressJet will find assignments for i
32 Post contains images Garri767 : Hope AMA is not a victim either way congrats to Chautauqua for getting the position and hope to see some of their planes up here!
33 N1120A : No it isn't The "uniform product" was the product of a deal made with ExpressJet that was a massive drain on Continental's finances. The Q400 deal an
34 FlyHoss : Good catch. I know an ExpressJet IP that commutes to IAH from BOI, I'm sure he won't be happy to learn this. But the "draw-down" of RJs from CO Expre
35 KAUSpilot : "Massive Drain"? Is that how CO pulled a $200 million dollar profit last quarter with Expressjet operating 30% of their domestic capacity?
36 EMBQA : Yes it is....although they have spun off some what, they still have very close ties to main line Continental. I have a long time friend that is in mi
37 ANNOYEDFA : ExpressJet only generates $658 Million dollars a year for CO out of the $3.3 Billion but they are SO draining. The first plane will come out of servic
38 KAUSpilot : Now that's funny.
39 Dutchjet : Question - the 69 airplanes will be used for three seperate operations? 1. Charter work. 2. Point to Point Flying.....under the ExpressJet name with
40 KAUSpilot : Nothing is set in stone yet. Those are the scenarios that have been communicated to the unions as possibilities. Leasing all 69 planes to someone else
41 Loggat : Flight Attendant per the profile That's an opinion. Bryan Bedford has been quoted as saying he is not interested in purchasing 50 seaters, hence the
42 EMBQA : ..and let me guess. They'll already be in Continental colors....?? I guess I know where those are coming from as they are the only E145's in the worl
43 Falcon84 : You're back? God help us. Since Larry has taken the reins, CO has remained the most financially sound legacy. It has done so with a hell of a lot les
44 KAUSpilot : I would like to see some hard facts and figures that show Expressjet as a "massive drain" on CO's finances. Those figures don't exist, because we can'
45 MasseyBrown : The latest 10-Q shows a $19 million net profit from "regional operations", which includes XJT as well as the others. I believe this is the first repo
46 Cactus739 : Still waitin for somethin official on this "deal"..
47 Post contains links OptionsCLE : Can someone put and end to the rumors on here? Everything that I've read on the forum so far has seemed to confirm what ANNOYEDFA is saying, the airc
48 KAUSpilot : ANNOYEDFA is correct. Expressjet will retain the 25 newest LR's and the 44 newest XR's. It was done this way because the newer planes have more expens
49 FutureFO : Ok well it seems that you do not know how to read a profile. I am not a pilot for CHQ, I am a FA, but I do not see what matters in the job that I hol
50 FutureFO : Also, I am very happy to work for CHQ. I have had the opportunity to work for other carriers. I have worked for many airlines and actually prefer CHQ.
51 Ncflyer : Can someone just get down to brass tax in simple English. Will there be a disruption in service in any of the 3 hubs? A major reduction in seats? An e
52 777WT : I read the news about CHQ and CO at my company's news when I went to work Saturday morning. Good news for CO and CHQ. I work on 135, 145 and 170 for C
53 Falcon84 : I would think "still unknown" is the answer right now. It may all depend how fast CHQ gets those 44 aircraft in the CO system, and how fast the Q400'
54 Loggat : The latest rumor I heard is that 20 ERJ-145's are being taken from the US Air side of the operation and being put in for the new CO stuff. In place of
55 Post contains images N1120A : Notice you didn't say a $200 million profit on the domestic network. CO's prudent international expansion is what has made them money, not their regi
56 Falcon84 : Not hard to figure out. All you have to do is see DL leasing a bunch of 757's to run European routes to know that. CO hit the jackpot with that one,
57 KAUSpilot : Yes, but Expressjet also operates a significant portion of CO's international network. Expressjet serves 25 destinations in Mexico, 7 Destinations in
58 N1120A : Oh get over it. ExpressJet operates a minute portion of CO's international RPMs
59 EMBQA : They always have operated under their own certificate and work rules....even when fully owned by Continental. Even now Continental has a big say in h
60 KAUSpilot : No need to get rude about it, friend. CO is making a huge mistake by further outsourcing their regional jet product. I believe they will come to regr
61 H53Epilot : Nope. XJT is the one who decided to keep the XR's, not CO. The XRs are much more capable aircraft in regards to range and weight limits. CO would lov
62 ANNOYEDFA : THEY DID NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTT MAKE THE DECISION!!!!!!!!!!!!! I SAT IN THE MEETING WITH JIM REAM NOT EVEN A WEEK AGO. I KNOW WHAT HE SAID! UGH!
63 FutureFO : In regards to 777WT, I bid away from the US flying ever month. I avoid PHL/LGA and ORD. I have no problem with DCA, I much prefer to fly in there. Als
64 PVD757 : OK, so 69 are leaving. 20 of the 44 CHQ 145's are coming from the US flying. That leaves 24 more 50 seaters from somewhere. The 24 DH4's are more than
65 FutureFO : But yet no official announcement regarding them. Hmmmmm Sean
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