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What Is The Deal With CO110?  
User currently offlineMoparman From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 411 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 7073 times:

This is primarily to Continental employees who may be able to help. What is the deal with Continental flight CO110 from Newark to Bonn? According to Continental, this flight is constantly late arriving in Germany although it generally leaves Newark on time. I am traveling to Germany in early August via CO110; one of the reasons I chose it was the early arrival time (0810). It seems that most every day, it is more than an hour delayed on average reaching Bonn.

Any ideas why is this happening?


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User currently offlineAmazonphil From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 561 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7021 times:

Lately it's been from alot of bad weather in EWR. On 7/21, it left 6:27hrs late from the gate and then arrived in Bonn 6:31hrs late so when it DOES gate off the gate, it looks like it arrives at the destination in the computer flight time given, at least for that date. Don't have the capability to check other past dates on this end. Let the weather let up and I'll bet the arrival times start getting better.

Cheers,
amazonphil



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6952 times:

EWR has not been a pretty place this summer......flights push back on time and then sit for hour(s) on the runway awaiting clearance to take off.

User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 694 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6861 times:

EWR has been affected a lot by bad weather this summer. On July 18, after flying GVA-EWR and waiting 6 hours for my connection to YQM (Moncton, Canada), we got on board the plane at 1835 (on time), but stayed ON BOARD for 6 1/2 hours because of bad weather. We left EWR at 0100 and arrived YQM at 0330 local instead of 2130. The pilot told us that between 1830 and 0100, 101 planes were delayed for takeoff (after numerous "ground stops"). Not a pretty sight!


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User currently offlineOldeuropean From Germany, joined May 2005, 2090 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6821 times:

Perhaps, because you are talking about Bonn. It looks like you are mixing up the airport (CGN Cologne/Bonn), which is actually in Cologne and the city Bonn, which has a train station with a 3letter code BNJ.

The arrival time by CO is in Cologne (because the flight goes EWR-CGN) and you need some extra time to go to Bonn by train. So the arrival time in BNJ is later.

Axel

[Edited 2006-07-22 16:04:53]


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User currently offlineMoparman From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 411 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 6679 times:

Hey thanks everyone....

The thing that really worries me, is that later that afternoon on the day I arrive, I have business in Frankfurt. I'm seriously considering cancelling my trip and rebooking with Delta as they don't seem to have the delay problems. I was actually hopeing that Continental had started their announced direct service from IAH to FRA already, which they have not.



"Harming a patient is unethical, but I can inflict as much pain as I like" Dr. Phlox
User currently offlineMoparman From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 411 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 6670 times:

Also -

I forgot to mention this: CO50, EWR-FRA seems to depart and arrive generally on-time. Yesterday... CO110, delayed 6.5 hours and CO50 delayed only 45min even while departing at similar times 1845/1920 respectively. It can't always be weather.



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User currently offlineFlyHoss From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 598 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 6651 times:

Quoting Moparman (Reply 5):
I was actually hopeing that Continental had started their announced direct service from IAH to FRA already, which they have not.

Have you considered LH from IAH to FRA? LH 441 (an A340-300) leaves IAH around 3:20 pm.



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User currently offlineMoparman From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 411 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 6623 times:

I haven't considered LH actually. That might be something to look into. Hey Thanks


"Harming a patient is unethical, but I can inflict as much pain as I like" Dr. Phlox
User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 3 days ago) and read 6623 times:

Quoting Moparman (Reply 5):
Continental had started their announced direct service from IAH to FRA already, which they have not.

CO never announced IAH-FRA nonstop service.......its been discussed, rumored and promised, but never officially announced.

Quoting Moparman (Reply 6):
It can't always

It is the weather......one of two things happened, CO110 got caught in a ground hold, lost its sequence accross the Atlantic and had to await re-scheduling while CO 052 made it out just in time avoiding all of the problems, or the inbound aircraft used for CO110 was very late arriving at EWR (due to weather) and took a huge delay.....it could have been that the aircraft that operates CO110 on that day diverted to another city due to EWR closing down. (Frequently, CO schedules 752 on a EWR-Florida City-EWR/EWR-Europe program.)

I speak from experience, as I fly with CO very often, fly transatlantic roundtrips about once per month, and spend a lot of time changing planes at EWR.....dont spend much time worrying about this. If the weather is OK at EWR, everything will probably go according to plans and if the weather is screwed up, everything will go wrong, and there is nothing that you can do about since neither you or CO can control the weather.  Smile Only on two or three occassions in hundreds of trips via Newark have I actually missed a connection or been very late. As stated above, the weather in the NYC area has been nothing short of impossible in the past weeks......things will hopefully improve.


User currently offlineBoysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 937 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 6418 times:

I have no idea if there is a link but CO100 EWR-MAN seems to be more delayed than most whenever I lookout for it. It's routinely over 2 hours late into MAN. Yesterday was an exception, it was over 4 hours late (so was AC in case people think I'm CO bashing). Today however normal service is resumed, its gonna be 2h55m late into MAN! I am intrigued to hear that FRA is on time generally but not CGN. Is the CO B752 fleet overstretched in terms of rostering does anybody think? Or do they prioritise destinations when things go wrong, so that a FRA departure goes ahead of CGN or MAN.

User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6393 times:

Quoting Boysteve (Reply 10):
I have no idea if there is a link but CO100 EWR-MAN seems to be more delayed than most whenever I lookout for it. It's routinely over 2 hours late into MAN. Yesterday was an exception, it was over 4 hours late (so was AC in case people think I'm CO bashing). Today however normal service is resumed, its gonna be 2h55m late into MAN! I am intrigued to hear that FRA is on time generally but not CGN. Is the CO B752 fleet overstretched in terms of rostering does anybody think? Or do they prioritise destinations when things go wrong, so that a FRA departure goes ahead of CGN or MAN.

My guess is that the 757s rotate between domestic and international flying and tend to be more affected by delays......the 757s fly more segments that the larger airplanes and delays can build from segment to segment, its been a tough summer thus far.

An example - the 777 that operates EWR-FRA probably arrives on most days from a European city between 1230 and 1500....has a few hours on the ground, and departs for Europe about 1830....thus, its not that sensitive to delays and problems at EWR. On the other hand, the 757's day could look like this....EWR-FLL 0915-1215, FLL-EWR 1315-1615, EWR-CGN 1830-0800+1.....if the weather is bad, EWR will typically be screwed up by 1400....the FLL-EWR flight will take an air traffic delay and then encounter further delays enroute trying to get into EWR and not be on the ground at EWR until 1800-1900.....the EWR-CGN flight will then not depart until 2000-2030, and then have to get a new slot accross the Atlantic, and sit in the line waiting to take off at EWR,,,,the entire process gets screwed up.

Note that CO 60/61, the BRU flights with 764s have also not been a pretty picture this summer......the turn time in BRU is only 90 minutes....thus if the flight is an hour late in arriving, is an hour late in departing.


User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 694 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6374 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 11):
An example - the 777 that operates EWR-FRA probably arrives on most days from a European city between 1230 and 1500....has a few hours on the ground, and departs for Europe about 1830....thus, its not that sensitive to delays and problems at EWR. On the other hand, the 757's day could look like this....EWR-FLL 0915-1215, FLL-EWR 1315-1615, EWR-CGN 1830-0800+1.....if the weather is bad, EWR will typically be screwed up by 1400....the FLL-EWR flight will take an air traffic delay and then encounter further delays enroute trying to get into EWR and not be on the ground at EWR until 1800-1900.....the EWR-CGN flight will then not depart until 2000-2030, and then have to get a new slot accross the Atlantic, and sit in the line waiting to take off at EWR,,,,the entire process gets screwed up.

I agree with you Dutchet. On a recent EWR-SNN flight on a 752, I spent a few hours chatting with the flight attendants in the galley about their pairings. They did indeed say that due to CO's international expansion, they were a bit stretched. The 757 is being used a lot for transatlantics, which in itself is not a problem; the problem, in terms of scheduling, are the fuel stop in YQX (Gander) that are sometimes necessary on the way back from certain cities. Several of them have had to work flights that have had to make stops in YQX for refuelling (more so in the winter). "Problem" 757 flights were, according to them, ARN-EWR, OSL-EWR, CPH-EWR, TXL-EWR and HAM-EWR. When a stop in YQX is required, that can screw up the schedule if the plane used is slated for, say, a Florida turn-around not long after. As you said, the 764s are not scheduled as tightly as they don't do much domestic flying (between European flights).

On my way back from Europe, I noticed that our 762 used on GVA-EWR (which arrived at 1230) was only scheduled to leave for IAH at 1510, which leaves a bit of a buffer. I believe that EWR-IAH-EWR are the only dometic routes flown by the 762 at the moment.



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 6301 times:

Quoting Matt (Reply 12):
are the fuel stop in YQX (Gander) that are sometimes necessary on the way back from certain cities. Several of them have had to work flights that have had to make stops in YQX for refuelling (more so in the winter). "Problem" 757 flights were, according to them, ARN-EWR, OSL-EWR, CPH-EWR, TXL-EWR and HAM-EWR.

This is completely incorrect...........757s have stopped in Gander a handful of times in the past year, and mainly due to warnings that there would be huge ATC delays at EWR and the stop was a precaution. The problems are during the Summer, when operations at EWR can be difficult, and not during the winter when loads are generally lighter and EWR does not get hit with thunderstorms every afternoon.

I am sure that the F/As were very nice and very capable, but information received from F/As concerning operation matters is usually not correct.


User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 694 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6260 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 13):
I am sure that the F/As were very nice and very capable, but information received from F/As concerning operation matters is usually not correct.

Possibly, but that is what I was told. Three of them recall having had to land in YQX in the spring. Would they just make that up? Possibly.

Just curious, do you work with CO ops? If not, how can you be so sure of the information you possess?



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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6220 times:

Quoting Matt (Reply 14):
If not, how can you be so sure of the information you possess?

Dutchjet is highly knowledgeable about CO. His past posts are very informative and accurate.

I am a CO flight attendant (ISM) and rarely do our long-haul 757s stop for fuel. IF EWR ATC will be busy or if weather is to be an issue, a fuel stop is planned. I fly the 757 a lot. I like to work the a/c and in all the years I have flown it internationally, I have yet to make a fuel stop.

Operationally, our 757s are sent domestically on turns after arriving from a European destination, whereas our 767/777 are turned back to Asia/Europe. The occasional trip down to IAH and vice versa for our widebodies is to rotate them in the system.



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User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 694 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6206 times:

Hi EWR cabin crew! I take it you're a Canadian living in the US working for CO. How does that work in terms of work permits? I know I'm off subject here...

As for the stops in YQX, I never said they were frequent. I just said "sometimes", which in retrospect can be ambiguous. And I was only relating what I was told by the FAs. So are you a "domestic FA" or "Intl. FA". I was told there were two categories? I used to work for a Canadian charter airline as an FA and crossed the pond many times in the 757!



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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 6206 times:

Quoting Matt (Reply 14):
Three of them recall having had to land in YQX in the spring.

Three of them, probably all working together, landed at YQX once - last Spring - that remark leads you to this conclusion?

Quoting Matt (Reply 12):
The 757 is being used a lot for transatlantics, which in itself is not a problem; the problem, in terms of scheduling, are the fuel stop in YQX (Gander) that are sometimes necessary on the way back from certain cities. Several of them have had to work flights that have had to make stops in YQX for refuelling (more so in the winter). "Problem" 757 flights were, according to them, ARN-EWR, OSL-EWR, CPH-EWR, TXL-EWR and HAM-EWR.

---------

Quoting Matt (Reply 14):
Possibly, but that is what I was told

I am sure thats what you were told.....did I doubt that you were told this info?
NO, I did not.......what I said was that F/As are not great sources for reliable operations info for any airline.

Quoting Matt (Reply 14):
Just curious, do you work with CO ops? If not, how can you be so sure of the information you possess?

I dont work for CO ops....but you can trust the info. Its up to you.


User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 694 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6190 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 17):
NO, I did not.......what I said was that F/As are not great sources for reliable operations info for any airline.

I guess I can't agree with you totally on this issue. While some are not reliable sources, I'm sure there are some who are very knowledgable, depending on where they get their info. Kinda like you, I guess.  Smile



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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5174 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6171 times:

F/As are about the least reliable source when it comes to industry info (of course no offense or disrespect to the F/As intended)--in fact you probably will know more from following these a.net threads.


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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6153 times:

Quoting Matt (Reply 16):
Hi EWR cabin crew! I take it you're a Canadian living in the US working for CO. How does that work in terms of work permits? I know I'm off subject here...

Quick off topic, I married a Canadian. We live in AZ for now (subject to change). EWR and IAH bases are divided into three bases, respectively. IAH has IAH designator for domestic flying, HTA for international and HOS for foreign language speaking FAs. EWR has EWR for domestic, NTA for international and NLS for foreign language speaking FAs.

I am an ISM (International Service Manager (read: purser)).

Back to the topic, I wish our 757s would follow in the shadow of our wide bodies and be used for international flying only. It would reduce delays on the outbound (EWR) flying. Just got back from AMS yesterday. The inbound was late because EWR got hammered with weather. It landed at 8:05 local AMS time and we turned it quickly, as we left on time and arrived back to EWR early, by almost half and hour.

Matt, who did you work for?

Cheers,

Bill

[Edited 2006-07-23 17:55:25]


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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5523 posts, RR: 56
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6140 times:

Quoting Drerx7 (Reply 19):
F/As are about the least reliable source when it comes to industry info (of course no offense or disrespect to the F/As intended)--in fact you probably will know more from following these a.net threads.

None taken. I stay abreast of what goes on from here and at work. I will add, I have been here 20 years with CO and have a pretty good idea of what goes on here operationally. There are a few of us who are in tune to what goes on and can offer reliable info to those wanting to know. I give what info I can accurately and if I do not know, I state such or find out for both of us to know.

I love this industry too much not to pass on correct information. It is in my blood.

Cheers



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User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6133 times:

757 fuel stops are 90% of the time due to congestion as a result of FAA-imposed restrictions on NYC airspace. The airplane is quite robust and very capable of operating the dispatched routes with profitable loads, however when circumstances beyond our control come together in such a way, we feel, as professionals, it is a prudent measure to divert and take on some additional juice to avoid the issue of declaring a fuel emergency on our descent.

Oftentimes, a tech stop in Gander or elsewhere usually adds no more than an hour to total flight time.

You'll find that the incidence of such stops are greatly exaggerated on these forums, and that our completion rate for all transatlantic operations is very high.


User currently offlineMatt From Canada, joined May 1999, 694 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 6109 times:

Thanks for the info, EWRCabincrew

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 20):
Matt, who did you work for?

Well, first I worked (in the early 90s) for a now-defunct Canadian charter airline called Nationair. They flew 757s, DC8s and 747s on charter flights from Canada to Europe and the Carribean (among other places). They also did a lot of contracts for airlines such as Gardua and Nigerian (for Hajj flights) and many others (Air France, for ex.).

I liked working the 757 for transatlantic, although I do prefer 2 aisles (for mobility in the cabin). Nationair's 757s, however, had 228 seats (in one class, of course), which made sometimes made uncomfortable for passengers on long flights (such as YVR-YYC-KEF-LGW).



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User currently offlineAmazonphil From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 561 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6002 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 17):
Quoting Matt (Reply 14):
Just curious, do you work with CO ops? If not, how can you be so sure of the information you possess?

I dont work for CO ops....but you can trust the info. Its up to you.

To give credit where credit is due....Dutchjet probably has more accuracy than some of our CO Ops people...
 Smile



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25 Amazonphil : EWRCabincrew, sorry I missed you out here in PHX the other morning, was really busy preparing an IAH flight leaving at 520am! Coming out again soon?
26 Dutchjet : thanks.......re-reading the post, I now feel a bit bad because I was really not challenging MATT, its just that there is a lot of misinformation abou
27 Amazonphil : TO me, and I'm sure others, it didn't seem that you challenging Matt, it is just as you said...alot of info about the 757s transatlantic probably doe
28 EWRCabincrew : Will be going out on 734 to EWR on Wednesday. Maybe see you then? Bill
29 Amazonphil : Sorry this is NOT the subject of the thread about CO110, but yes, will be there...Weds starts my weekend and I leave at 500am..maybe you'll be out to
30 Matt : Hi everyone. Don't worry, I didn't feel challenged at all, nor was I arguing against Dutchjet. I was simply relating what I was told by the FAs on my
31 Dutchjet : Thanks. The 764s are not going anywhere and will fly side by side with the 787s for years to come.....the 764s are extremely effecient airplanes and
32 Matt : Thanks, Dutchjet. It will indeed interesting too see what happens to the 762. I figured, as you said, there was more chance that they keep the 764 as
33 Amazonphil : Matt, if and when you do get the chance to fly on a 764, your in for a treat....very nice aircraft! I've flown it 4 times from IAH-GRU round trip twi
34 Matt : I will definitely have to find a way of getting on board one of those 764. My next potential trips abroad, in the next year, include EZE, HAM and BRU
35 Post contains images Amazonphil : Well, obivoulsy longer for one, but to be honest I haven't had the chance to fly on one our 762s, so I don't know the layout of the interior. I would
36 Cory6188 : I've been on both, and I can say with some certainty that they're virtually identical. About the only difference that I can think of is that the 764
37 Drerx7 : From my experience the 762 and 764 are virually identical--as an aside I'll be on CO52 IAH-EWR on Tuesday.
38 Dutchjet : I agree - the interior of the airplanes are bascially identical.....except of course the 764s are longer with more seats and the 764s have 777-shaped
39 EWRCabincrew : The one thing about the 767-400 that crews are not too hip on, as opposed to the 767-200, is the fact there is no lav in the very rear of the aircraft
40 Dutchjet : Dumb question - is this because the crew itself would find a rear lav more convenient for their own needs (understandable) or because passengers in t
41 EWRCabincrew : Not dumb at all. More convenient is the first response. Especially to wash our hands after picking up the meal service. The second part is passengers
42 Matt : Funny you should mention the lav, because I thought the 762 didn't have any lav at the back of the aircraft. It turns out that there is one, but only
43 Drerx7 : The CO 762 is my favorite CO bird.
44 Letsgetwet : Well, today (Sun) was the first day this week that we did'nt have severe thunderstorms in the afternoon. CO110 left about 10 min late. So you see if t
45 Fetheroleather : Not to be a party pooper here, but I have a couple of beefs with CAL's 767 interiors.First is that there are no air vents for the pax to adjust(777 al
46 Moparman : Hey thanks everyone... I was getting a bit worried as this is business I cannot miss or be late for.
47 Boysteve : Is EWR more prone to weather delays than JFK? Can someone please help
48 Hush-Kit : folks, i travel a lot between Europe and the US, about 10-15 times a yaer. I flew CO 111/ 110 shortly after this leg was launched. Was June 2nd. ETD i
49 777gk : It is rumored that an IAH-FRA flight will be added at some point coinciding with our 787 delivery schedule. Which aircraft type will operate the fligh
50 ADXMatt : BTW..... CO110/27JUL arrived CGN 3 min early.....
51 Hush-Kit : Thanks gk777 for the update on the future nonstop service between IAH and FRA. I never considered it a capacity issue to launch this connection (as it
52 Dutchjet : London and Paris have been served out of IAH for many years......AMS was added when CO and KL began to code share in connection with CO joining SkyTe
53 Moparman : Concerning IAH-FRA, I would agree. However, considering that Germany is served from EWR with 4 flights a day (FRA, TXL, HAM, and CGN), and their co-s
54 Dutchjet : Well, it seems that the men and women at CO disagree with you......CO needs the larger airplane on the EWR-FRA route for cargo and biz first demand..
55 Moparman : That is a good point. I wasn't aware of that. Thanks
56 777gk : EWR is a much stronger market than IAH for transatlantic travel, it is only natural that CO places priority here ahead of Houston. IAH will get its FR
57 Post contains images Moparman : 777gk, When is CO to get their first B787s? I cannot wait. It would be considerable more conveniant for me to fly from IAH.... It would be GPT-IAH-FRA
58 Hush-kit : 777gk, ok, to bring it to the point: EWR to FRA n/s has -of course- the highest priority, as EWR is the transatlantic hub #1 for CO. And I assume ther
59 777gk : Simply an aircraft availability issue, we don't have suitable equipment on hand to operate the route without downgrading an existing (profitable) serv
60 Post contains links Hush-Kit : 777gk.... http://airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/2908673/ just found this in another thread....as we were talking a bit about IAH
61 Moparman : What happened today? The CO website shows the aircraft returning to the gate in Newark. A ---- SINGLE ---- on time arrival in CGN in the last 2 weeks!
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