Gemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5457 posts, RR: 6 Reply 4, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2202 times:
It's a difficulty route because:
1) It's long & thin, which means high costs.
2) You ideally need a big hub on the west coast, or at least a big focus city.
3) You need feed on the Oz end. There is nobody except for QF & LCC DJ.
4) Compertation is veryhigh from two first class carriers who have no where else to go, ie QF & NZ.
5) Because of this Return on Investment is low and there are better optunities else where, eg North Asia.
Funny enough the best placed US carrier to serve Oz/NZ is AA, who discovered many years ago that a code share arrangement with QF was far more profitable than running their own metal down here.
Dont expect too much change unless something big happens, eg sub-ortibal flight, UA going Chapter 7 or Star Trek transporters being deployed.
Gemuser From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5457 posts, RR: 6 Reply 8, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2100 times:
Quoting AirCop (Reply 6): Missed that one, that how invisible that service is. Can only use the service if one lives on the west coast, otherwise its a day or more layover.
I think they are one to watch. As they emerge from their recent troubles and aquire more aircraft and mainland destnations their oppunities for development of a South Pacific route structure will increase and they could offer an attractive service from any US point that does not have non stop to Oz, but does have non stop to HNL.
ETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2036 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 1836 times:
How many USA mainland based pax fly to Australia via CO/GUM?
Next to no-one. Most pax on GUM-CNS are Asian originating and transiting GUM... I don't even think CO makes any special fares available for Mainland-GUM-CNS.
Londonlady71 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 152 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (7 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 1606 times:
I wish united would put someextra ones on that flight is always busy and I am trying to get there tomorrow lol....given up trying to get out of heathrow and am id90'ing on BA and QF via japan! Whoever says id 90's are cheap....err no way its costing me £478! one way!! lol...ah well it means a round the world trip as I am coming back via nz and LA!