OttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7372 times:
Just noticed today that the Shuttle America/DL Connection E70 has made its debut in scheduled service in ATL. Flying as DL 6454, it is the 4:08p departure to JFK. And even though I expected C or D Concourse to be its assigned area, it is parking on B Concourse. Freedom ERJ's have also began parking on A or B Concourse as well, as compared to C. Good to see the well-liked E70 make her debut with us in ATL.
DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 50 Reply 1, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7365 times:
Yup was about time, our all hope is that the E-Jets will replace the CR7s on the Caribbean routes asap .
Didn't know they are using Concourse A now as well. It was known that Chautauqua would be operating from B19/20 (and 18 appearantly as well as seen on a recent pic), due to those gates being too narrow for mainline, but Concourse A is a surprise. I suppose they will be using the gates close to the central area as well?
FlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6049 posts, RR: 25 Reply 2, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 7345 times:
The E70's have been serving ATL since June. Routes include ATL-MDW, ATL-SAT, ATL-JFK and ATL-TYS.
While I like the EMB170's, seeing RJ's slowly takeover mainline gates in A and B is not so exciting.
OttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7345 times:
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 1): Didn't know they are using Concourse A now as well. It was known that Chautauqua would be operating from B19/20 (and 18 appearantly as well as seen on a recent pic),
I wasn't exactly sure of the gates for CHQ, so it is B-19 and 20. The E70 is also being operated out of a narrowbody B gate. I do hope to see more arrive. Neat looking little birds, if I do say so myself.
DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 50 Reply 4, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 7309 times:
Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 2): While I like the EMB170's, seeing RJ's slowly takeover mainline gates in A and B is not so exciting.
Well, as said, those gates in B that CHQ operates out of can't be used for mainline planes, not even 732s, and have been pretty much unused ever since DL retired the 727s. Personally, I'd rather have Embraers at those gates than see them not being used at all . Allows DL to add quite a few additional flights at ATL.
DL787932ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 597 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7208 times:
I hope you're not thinking today is the first E70 to ATL...I flew MDW-ATL back on the 13th on a Shuttle America E170.
Fantastic airplane, BTW...it was my first time on one and I think it's my new favorite shorthaul airplane. Takes off and climbs like a rocket, big windows at the proper eye level, and the little 6-seat F cabin is great - the seats in the second row have tons of recline (all the way back into the mesh net that separates F and Y ). Only disappointment was that I wanted to try the mojito and they don't have it on Connection carriers. I won't miss the 732 if the replacement is mainline E190s or 195s.
OttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7171 times:
Quoting DL787932ER (Reply 6): I hope you're not thinking today is the first E70 to ATL...I flew MDW-ATL back on the 13th on a Shuttle America E170
Yup, just noticed it today while passing through on a 757 and decided to find out when I got off the plane. Can't believe I never noticed any before or heard anything of them.
In either case, I'm sure most a.netters were also not aware of the newest addition to ATL.
AvConsultant From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1360 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7096 times:
That's the truth, the one thing that irritates me with the CRJ. Even the ERJ has a large window
Quoting OttoPylit (Reply 7): In either case, I'm sure most a.netters were also not aware of the newest addition to ATL.
I saw the 170 in Atlanta in June and wondered why no one mentioned this. It's weird seeing someone other than EV or OH not being the darling in offering new DL service. I'm sure some group in DL will be a little upset seeing a DCI aircraft on A or B.
DeltaDAWG From United States of America, joined May 2006, 620 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7056 times:
They are also serving MEM from ATL with the E70. I am flying on it tomorrow morning at 9am.
Flew it once before from SLC to DFW, great plane.
Also, saw this morning where Embraer got 30 more firm orders from Republic.
Loggat From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 660 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6963 times:
S5 and RP are using gates B16 (not very often), B17 (145, mostly 170 now), B18 (170), B19 (145 - no jetway access), B20 (145 mostly). I used B19 twice today. It's still just the B concourse, nothing on A, and Freedom is over at C.
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DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 50 Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6941 times:
Quoting Loggat (Reply 11): S5 and RP are using gates B16 (not very often), B17 (145, mostly 170 now), B18 (170), B19 (145 - no jetway access), B20 (145 mostly). I used B19 twice today.
Except B-16, which I see as a waste for any non-mainline plane, makes sense to have those gates used for RJs, as they are all somewhat limited due to the Concourse's central hall.
BR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 6913 times:
I have also noticed these E70s in ATL... Good to see them... Shuttle America is expanding with Delta, and its good... I wish DL and S5 the best of luck...
Loggat From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 660 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6853 times:
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 12): Since when has Freedom been operating from ATL?
I think about a month or two now, not a large operation
B16 is just used as an overflow if the other gates are used or there is a delayed aircraft there. I think Delta also realizes that it is a mainline gate. There was also an E70 at B15 today too, possibly for the same reason. With the transfer of E70 flying from SLC to ATL, I expect that many more of the "mainline" gates will have the E70 utilizing them.
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TheLUREnyc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6847 times:
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 4): Well, as said, those gates in B that CHQ operates out of can't be used for mainline planes, not even 732s, and have been pretty much unused ever since DL retired the 727s.
Why is that? How could 727s have used those gates but not 737s?
FlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2260 posts, RR: 11 Reply 16, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6823 times:
Quote: Good to see the well-liked E70 make her debut with us in ATL.
Expect to see even more of them when the September schedule change goes into effect. Word is that most, if not all of Shuttle America's E70 flying for Delta Connection will shift from SLC to ATL.
TheLUREnyc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6786 times:
Quoting FlyCMH (Reply 16): Expect to see even more of them when the September schedule change goes into effect. Word is that most, if not all of Shuttle America's E70 flying for Delta Connection will shift from SLC to ATL.
Let's see a HVN-ATL route in that plane .. pleeeeeease, DL!! We deserve far better than US Dash8s to PHL !!
DAL767400ER From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 5721 posts, RR: 50 Reply 18, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 6664 times:
Quoting TheLUREnyc (Reply 15): Why is that? How could 727s have used those gates but not 737s?
The 727 had wings which were angled way more than the 737 series, plus the fact that it had its engines on the tail, so there was no need for engine safety zones in front of the wing, which of course take away quite a bit of valuable space at those gates.
Quoting FlyCMH (Reply 16): Expect to see even more of them when the September schedule change goes into effect. Word is that most, if not all of Shuttle America's E70 flying for Delta Connection will shift from SLC to ATL.
What would the replacements be, CR7s *shudders*? Also, some routes would require an upgrade to mainline, as I believe some routes, e.g. CLE or MZT are out of the range of the E-Jets.
Quoting TheLUREnyc (Reply 17): Let's see a HVN-ATL route in that plane .. pleeeeeease, DL!! We deserve far better than US Dash8s to PHL !!
Dream on. Comair couldn't make HVN work with 40-seaters, how should S5 be able to do it with a 70-seater? With a First Class as well. Waste of resources.
Loggat From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 660 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 6636 times:
Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 18): What would the replacements be, CR7s *shudders*? Also, some routes would require an upgrade to mainline, as I believe some routes, e.g. CLE or MZT are out of the range of the E-Jets.
The new Skywest CRJ-900 series airplanes will be taking a number of the routes, and the rest will be mainline replacements. Off the top of my head, I think CLE, DTW and probably ORD will have mostly MD-90 service (I suspect slightly reduced).
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FlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2260 posts, RR: 11 Reply 20, posted (6 years 10 months 3 days ago) and read 6608 times:
[quote]Quoting DAL767400ER (Reply 18):
What would the replacements be, CR7s *shudders*? Also, some routes would require an upgrade to mainline, as I believe some routes, e.g. CLE or MZT are out of the range of the E-Jets.
The new Skywest CRJ-900 series airplanes will be taking a number of the routes, and the rest will be mainline replacements. Off the top of my head, I think CLE, DTW and probably ORD will have mostly MD-90 service (I suspect slightly reduced).[/quotw]
You got it. CLE and DTW were reduced to 1x daily service to SLC with the E70s, then mainline (MD-90s) quickly replaced the Embraer in both markets. The fall schedule has several routes, such as SLC-BNA, flying with Skywest's CRJ-705s in place of Shuttle's EMB-170s, while other routes, like SLC-IND/CMH have been reduced to 1x daily service with the E70. Not sure whether those two routes will see mainline or Skywest, since both are major Shuttle maintenance and crew bases.
B4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2595 posts, RR: 6 Reply 23, posted (6 years 10 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6449 times:
I am excited for the E-series for DCI also. In fact, I'm flying IND-SLC-CVG-GRR just to get the E170 early next month. Funny thing is, it is all a married route, so my fare was the same!
ROA757 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 22 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (6 years 9 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 6290 times:
I flew out of FLL this am and one of the e170s was sitting on the tarmac near where DHL parks...looked mighty good in DL Colors.
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25 UAX170: Yeah we are surely opening shop in ATL, we just picked up GPT as well, because that market is screaming for more seats, with its intense booking level
26 OMA2FAI2SAV: When are they going to send this little honey to SAV? Sounds like a great plane for the SAV-ATL route. Does anyone agree? I mean, We are getting upgra
27 UAX170: I see it coming into SAV, but its not official. We are waiting to see if DL will allow us to do more flying, and the rumors have it we plan to establi
29 OttoPylit: Well spoken! And true, I hope. I have not yet had the chance to ride an E70, but I sure can't wait to do so. I've heard many good stories and hope th
30 FutureFO: The Yoke on the EMB's is perfect and it is unique. The pilots that I fly with find it easier to fly than the traditional yoke. Sean
31 Lapper: I'm booked on ATL-JFK this week on one, looking forward to it! New type for me!
32 UAX170: Yeah hopefully we'll get rid of the S3C, or DL will make all DLX carriers S3C, either way is fair. I just find it funny how a mainline F/A can bump a
33 OttoPylit: Wait a minute, you serve meals on the E70's on the NY flights in F? The E-170 has ovens? Oh my, the days of knowing I'm on DL Connection and having t
34 FutureFO: Even on the UA E70's there is meal service. Sean
35 UAX170: The funny thing is, we have ovens on the UAX birds (Not used), not on DLX. But, we serve cold meals in F/C on DL, and they are nice. We offer turkey w
36 Lapper: I will. I did a trip report for my O/B which was on DL mainline from JFK-ATL. I'll try and post some pics up for the return.
37 FutureFO: Don't you mean DLC not DLX. DLX was all 737-200's a few years ago. Sean
38 Stirling: Who was the first to bring the E-Jets to Atlanta? Air Canada?
39 B4real: No meals on the E70's operated by Shuttle America.
40 UAX170: Oh yes we have meals, I served numerous meals the other day out of LGA, you will probaly get a meal on one of our flights, if you are seated in F.
41 Cessna157: That is not possible. If the mainline was positive space, and the OH f/a was non-rev, then yes that is true. If both are non-rev, then they are both
42 UAX170: Right, about it being seniority based, but the COMAIR F/A should have higher seniority than mainline, regardless of when they were hired by COMAIR, be
43 FutureFO: Same thing with ASA currently. Until DL adjusts the boarding priority for them. It should be adjusted on the BP for the different carriers. I mean we
44 UAX170: You should be S3 on Shuttle, period. If ASA is going to keep S3 despite being bought by SkyWest, then you, as a CHQ employee should be able to bump an
45 Lhrmaccoll: You guys are lucky to hve the 170s in service so much over there. I wish we could have a bit more action over here in Europe, at the moment all we can
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