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User currently offlineBOE773 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 6963 times:

Why are most airports in the kingdom (isles of brit) just one runway?
It can't be just because of the NIMBYS.

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User currently offlineBDKLEZ From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 1735 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 6886 times:

Quoting BOE773 (Thread starter):
Why are most airports in the kingdom (isles of brit) just one runway?

Well, LHR isn't, LGW isn't, BHX isn't, MAN isn't, GLA isn't, EDI isn't, BFS isn't, DUB isn't. That's the majors taken care of. What airports are you specifically referring to...???



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User currently offlineFlyKev From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 1380 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 6857 times:
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LGW operates as a single runway airport, as does STN. Thats two London ones.

I think its space related, though there are plans to massivly expand STN.

Kev.



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6870 posts, RR: 63
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 6836 times:

Quoting BDKLEZ (Reply 1):
LGW isn't,

LGW was for many years the world's busiest single runway airport and unless I've missed something pretty significant, it still is. Pray tell us where the second runway is...


User currently offlineFlyMatt2Bermud From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 563 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 6820 times:

Bermuda International (Kindley Field) BDA/TXKF has been down to one runway for decades. I just love carrying enough fuel to divert to Boston, plus.


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User currently offlineCharlipr From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2005, 340 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 6809 times:

LGW has two runway parallel to each other:

RWY 08R/26L & 08L/26R


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6870 posts, RR: 63
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 6789 times:

Quoting Charlipr (Reply 5):
LGW has two runway parallel to each other: RWY 08R/26L & 08L/26R

Wow, news to me. But how 'equivalent' are these and can they be used simultaneously? (I still remember a BIA MD80 landing on a taxiway at LGW in the 1980s...)

[Edited 2006-07-25 00:10:18]

User currently offlineBDKLEZ From Ireland, joined Jun 2005, 1735 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 6775 times:

Quoting Charlipr (Reply 5):
LGW has two runway parallel to each other:

RWY 08R/26L & 08L/26R

Got there just before me, damn!

Quoting PM (Reply 6):
But how 'equivalent' are these and can they be used simultaneously?

They are not "equivilent" as such, one is the emergency runway, and is significantly shorter, however if the sitiation dictates, then either can be used.

Edit to add link for the benefit of those who were not aware...!

http://www.ukaccs.info/gatwick/profile.htm

[Edited 2006-07-25 00:17:25]


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User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 6756 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 6):
Wow, news to me. But how 'equivalent' are these and can they be used simultaneously? (I still remembeer a BIA MD80 landing on a taxiway at LGW in the 1980s...)

08L cannot be used at the same time as 08R, they are far too close together and the eastern end is blocked by the terminals a hundred yards or so from the runways threshold.


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6870 posts, RR: 63
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6739 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 8):
08L cannot be used at the same time as 08R, they are far too close together

Right, so LGW remains to all intents and purposes a "single runway" airport.


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6724 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 9):

Right, so LGW remains to all intents and purposes a "single runway" airport.

Ahh but the thread title wasnt 'Airports restricted to operations on one runway'  Wink


User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6711 times:

many carabean airport got only one runway: HAV, CYO, ccc, HOG,AVI, SDQ, POP, PUJ, LRM, STT, BDA, SXM,

User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6711 times:

Quoting YULYMX (Reply 12):
many carabean airport got only one runway

They havent exactly got much space tho, have they?


User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6693 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 13):

They do specialy in cuba and Dominican republic but with dominant wind they only need one...

SJU got more than one


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6870 posts, RR: 63
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6693 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 11):
Ahh but the thread title wasnt 'Airports restricted to operations on one runway'

Why isn't there an emoticon for "hair-splitting"? Nice try, Richard, but I suspect you're with me on this one!


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6679 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 15):

Why isn't there an emoticon for "hair-splitting"? Nice try, Richard, but I suspect you're with me on this one!

Quite right you are, on both counts.


User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2097 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6660 times:

In terms of regularly operational runways, only LHR, MAN and DUB have more than one, and the reason is this........(thinking)

Because...........there's still not a compelling need for any more runways, with the exceptions of LHR and possibly LGW. BHX needs a longer runway, but the planning process in the UK means that big infrastructural projects take a long, long time to materialise.

With 60 million people crammed into area the size of the Montreal-Toronto corridor, there isn't enough room in the UK to build new runways or even roads without a big ensuing fight. Every time something does get built, it also means the demolition or relocation of 500 year old architecturally listed buildings, or destruption to ancient woodland habitats etc, so it generally doesn't happen.

It's a bit different in North America....there's plenty of r-o-o-m!


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6870 posts, RR: 63
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6652 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 16):
Quite right you are, on both counts.

 bigthumbsup  LoL!


User currently offlineYULYMX From Canada, joined May 2006, 977 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6644 times:

IN North america i think that only San Diego (SAN) use a single runway out of major metrpolitain city of course

User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6604 times:

In short, the reason most airports have one operational runway is because they are all derived from WW2 airbases - the land was set aside, and by todays standards its too small for multiple runways.

User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6870 posts, RR: 63
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6604 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 19):
In short, the reason most airports have one operational runway is because they are all derived from WW2 airbases - the land was set aside, and by todays standards its too small for multiple runways.

Gatwick?!


User currently offlineMainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2097 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6583 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 19):
In short, the reason most airports have one operational runway is because they are all derived from WW2 airbases

Precisely.


User currently offlineRichardPrice From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6569 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 20):
Gatwick?!

Gatwick (as did Heathrow) started off as an aerodrome prior to WW2, but it was massively expanded as RAF Gatwick under No. 11 Group Fighter Command. In 1958 it was revamped and opened as London Gatwick, an alterantive to London Heathrow.


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6870 posts, RR: 63
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 6547 times:

Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 22):
In 1958 it was revamped and opened as London Gatwick, an alterantive to London Heathrow.



Quoting RichardPrice (Reply 19):
by todays standards its too small for multiplerunways.

Rubbish! They built the North Terminal where there was plenty of room for a second runway. Gatwick is not located in a high density population centre!


User currently offlineCRGsFuture From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 536 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 6508 times:

My favorite one is of course, GVA. What a place with one runway.


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25 PM : What's the problem? When was GVA ever overwhelmed by traffic with only one runway? It's not that big of an airport....
26 CRGsFuture : I'm saying its a cool place for a one runway airport, as it does make sense. Their is no negativity, or hidden sarcasm in the post.[Edited 2006-07-25
27 RichardPrice : No, but theres still population surrounding it, enough to raise serious opposition to having their homes replaced by a second runway. If a second run
28 Post contains images PM : Show me an airport of any significance where the locals won't be happy about any expansion...
29 Isitsafenow : RSW stands out. 6-24 is 12,000 feet long for in-season international trips to Germany. The Germans love southwest Florida. The airport has one and onl
30 Irish251 : A northern parallel runway is planned for Dublin, to be completed in six or seven years' time. Currently DUB operates virtually as a single-runway air
31 MainMAN : Ringway/Wythenshawe has a similar history. It started in 1929 as a Manchester minicipal alternative to neighbouring Barton Aerodrome in Salford, and
32 PM : A deeply problematic concept. The "Britsh Isles" is a geographical concept that has absolutely nothing to do with politics. We could refer to the isl
33 Zkojh : JER- only has one runway, which is rather great if you miss it, yoiu have a choice of either hitting a garden centre or going over a cliff, and landin
34 Dogfighter2111 : EDI may have 2 runways, RWY 06/24 (Main Runway) and RWY 12/30 (Secondary Runway), but RWY 06/24 is the only runway used everyday of the year. RWY 12/3
35 BOE773 : Why are the islands not commonly called the 'United Queendom' since it is currently being ruled by a queen?
36 Nwafflyer : Now, compare the volume of traffic at the various airports in this thread to say Atlanta -- Also compare the local weather to Atlanta, and compare the
37 Post contains images AeroWesty : Blatant thread creep. Shocking, I say.
38 Post contains links Qantas744ER : Emmmm. Why is the World round? What kind of questions are you asking.. Go to the " Stupid Questions Forum" it can be found under www.bullshit.com Che
39 Post contains images AirbusA6 : Maybe us Brits use our runways more efficiently than other countries LGW for example carries a lot more traffic than most European airports, many with
40 Gilesdavies : BHX effectively only has one runway now: 15/33 - 8,546ft/2,605m. Runway 06/24 only measures 4314ft/1315m, and part of this has now been built on and u
41 MCOflyer : Ive heard Gilbratar has one runway, SAN only has one. Patrick AFB may have 2 but only one can handle the large amount of military traffic we get. ITH
42 BOE773 : I liked the looks of Madeira when we sailed past on a cruise ship. A fair amount of the rwy is supported on concrete reinforced piers. Not much level
43 Post contains links Boeing7E7 : Its a maintenance runway so they can shut down the primary runway. They also plan a second runway but are prohibited from building it until 2019. The
44 PITrules : However, 26R and 26L can be used at the same time. 26L for landing and 26R for takeoff. For whatever reason , they choose not too. Any way you slice
45 BOE773 : They have insufficient lateral separation for simultaneous ILS approaches and departs for some ac types.
46 Coronado990 : SAN is the busiest U.S. single runway commercial airport...twice as busy as the runner up which is RSW.
47 Post contains images MainMAN : So as not to confuse our poor colonial subjects in the Dominion of Canada Good point, but no government wants the responsibility of making such decis
48 Cloudyapple : Absolute utter BS. We TEAM every morning and whenever necessary where we land simultaneously and independently on BOTH runways. There are no airspace
49 Gilesdavies : Luton can bearly justify submitting plans for a two runway operation when airports like STN and LGW are 2-3x more busier than Luton and operate with
50 Post contains images Scbriml : Heathrow's runways are too close together? They're nearly 1.5km apart! If they were any further apart, they'd be in different counties.
51 Jetpixx : FLL - for all intents and purposes - thanks to the idiot NIMBYs who move to the area around the airport AFTER it was built and then complain about noi
52 Starlionblue : Political expedience. Make the NIMBYs happy but leave the door open for sanity in the future (long after that generation of politicians have retired)
53 Post contains images Steeler83 : MDT and I think Seattle-Tacoma are one-runway airports IIRC. I know that MDT is; it's sandwiched between the Norfolk Southern/Amtrak lines and the Sus
54 Keego : EZY dont operate out of DUB it could have been one of the new Eastern European airlines. They were using 16/34 quite extensevly the other day. We too
55 EI787 : He's talking about EDI, not DUB!
56 LV : RSW.... it amazes me.... but I guess with the predominate winds there is no need. I guess the only time the wind changes here is during a hurricane.
57 Dogfighter2111 : haha, as EI787 says i was talking about EDI. Might i ask though, what made you think i was talking about DUB? Thanks Mike
58 Post contains images Keego : Sorry guys my bad I misread the code!
59 Keego : I dunno maybe cause the other code for DUB is EIDW and EDI at a quick glance is similir, that or just plane stupidity (No pun intended)
60 Post contains images Boeing7E7 : And technically the busiest in the world given Gatwicks maintenance runway.   SAN has no such luxury. Uh... No. And they're adding a third which may
61 Post contains images Dogfighter2111 : haha, ok. I can see where it could get confusing. I have done it before Thanks Mike
62 Coronado990 : Yes, I remember reminding the captain of our BA 777 that we were flying non-stop between the two busiest single-runway airports in the world (SAN-LGW
63 FlyDreamliner : San Diego is awful. One fairly short (for a modestly major airport) with one runway and that parking structure at the end that makes landing interest
64 Teixeim : Several major airports in Brazil have only a single physical runway such as CNF, PLU, Fortaleza, Manaus, VCP, and many more. I think only one runway a
65 Ncelhr : LHR could better utilise its two runways by having simultaneous landings & take-offs on each runway and this is in the works... but as usual there ar
66 Starlionblue : Classic. This transfers into homes as well, especially rentals ***shudder***. My friend calls London "The World Biggest Temporary Structure".
67 Steeler83 : Throw in PHL, MDW, DAL for that matter as well... I did not realize that. Thanks for the correction; didn't they have only one runway at one point th
68 Boeing7E7 : They converted a taxiway to a maintenance runway. The third runway was prevented until 2019 and plans are in the works to add a second independent ru
69 Post contains images OHLHD : Thank´s for that info! ???????
70 Kazzie : LTN just has one Runway.....
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