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UA DC10's SEA-HKG  
User currently offlineAlexinwa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1150 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2644 times:

Back in the good ole' days UA ran DC10's SEA-HKG (Flt 17 or 22) until the 747sp took over and then UA dumped that route. (Which I still can't understand)

What series DC10 was this?
What was the config? Did UA run this 3 classes?
What was the range?

DC10 range Vs. 747sp Vs. 747-100 or 747-200?

I remember the 747-100 or 747-200's that ran ORD-SEA-NRT had 3 class service and I know that the 747sp's did as well.


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User currently offlineMason747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2622 times:

Most likely was the -30ER series. The -40 series was only ordered by JAL and Northwest. It was the first long range variant that was offered. The DC-10s most likely had 3 class service as well. The 747-200 had a full range of 6700 miles and the -30ER had a range of 6500 miles. The SP had the same range as the 30-ER at 6500. The 100 only had a range of 4500 miles.

User currently offlineAlexInWa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2583 times:

I show SEA-HKG at 6500nm. I don't ever remember the DC10 or 747sp having an issue making the trip either way.

Wouldn't this be a little tight for both A/C?

The 747sp did SFO-HKG/JFK-NRT/LAX-SYD,....which are all quite a bit longer than SEA-HKG!!



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User currently offlineFL370 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 252 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

ya i remember being on one of those flights back when i was a little kid. the flight was only like 11-12hours
wasn't that bad, but i remember landing in tapai or japan, don't remember that part. but it was deffienently and DC-10-30er


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2502 times:
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Quoting Mason747 (Reply 1):
Most likely was the -30ER series

These were the DC10-30's that they picked up from World Airways, Laker Airways in the mid 80's



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User currently offlineFLY777UAL From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4512 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

Quoting Jetjack74 (Reply 4):
These were the DC10-30's that they picked up from World Airways, Laker Airways in the mid 80's

I thought they were the leased birds from CP...

They were in a three class config, with Business as 8 abreast (the "norm" at the time!). I have a seat map and brochure floating around somewhere, so I'll try to get that scanned and up here!

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User currently offlineMason From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 748 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2222 times:

Yes, in fact they were -30s. My neighbor is a retired UA captain, and flew that route many times. No way could a -10 make that. Don't understand why UA dropped that route? Well, NW couldn't make it work either. I would love to see CX try it, the A343 would be a great fit. I don't see UA or NW starting this one up any time soon. Next intl destination from SEA: CDG or FRA.

User currently offlineRoseFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9634 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2201 times:

It amazes me that there are two airlines flying to Taipei and two airlines flying to Seoul from Seattle, yet there are no airlines flying to HKG.


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User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8016 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2185 times:

I believe the DC-10-30's UA flew on the SEA-HKG route were leased from CP Air--these DC-10's were fitted with extra fuel tanks so they could fly the route non-stop.

User currently offlineAlexInWa From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 1150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 2171 times:

How long did UA lease the DC10-30's? That route was a DC10 for about 10 years or more if I'm not mistaken. It only went to the 747sp after UA bought the Pan Am pacific routes.

Quoting RoseFlyer (Reply 7):
It amazes me that there are two airlines flying to Taipei and two airlines flying to Seoul from Seattle, yet there are no airlines flying to HKG.

Could not agree more. And don't forget the double daily to NRT.

I never thought that UA would pull SEA-HKG. And I doubt it was due to the flight not making money. The reason I remember it being cut was the thinking that going to HKG via SFO was no big deal.

Personally I would like to see SQ in SEA. Maybe a SEA-HKG-SIN route? I think the connections in Taipei/Seoul/Tokyo are good and with almost double daily flight on all those it's makes for alot choices. However I think SEA-HKG would work very well for any airline that started it!!



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User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26484 posts, RR: 75
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2087 times:

Quoting Mason747 (Reply 1):
The SP had the same range as the 30-ER at 6500.

Whomever told you that was rather ill-informed. The 747SP was the longest ranged passenger aircraft ever built until the 777-200ER came along.



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User currently offlineMagyarorszag From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2075 times:

Quoting AlexInWa (Reply 9):
How long did UA lease the DC10-30's?

DC-10-30 C-GCPF 46543/341 11/07/1983 31/05/1987
DC-10-30 C-GCPG 48285/352 05/04/1983 19/04/1987
DC-10-30 C-GCPH 48288/364 25/03/1983 21/05/1987


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User currently offlineKiwiandrew From New Zealand, joined Jun 2005, 8565 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2067 times:
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Quoting AlexInWa (Reply 9):
I never thought that UA would pull SEA-HKG. And I doubt it was due to the flight not making money. The reason I remember it being cut was the thinking that going to HKG via SFO was no big deal.

I could be completely wrong here - but I thought that they were required to relinquish the rights when they bought PAs transpacific routes



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