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SQ 747-400, Which Ones Are No Longer In Service?  
User currently offlineSQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1568 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2388 times:

I was browsing through the photo database and came across this photo of Air Pacific. It looks like the interior of a former SQ 744 aircraft.


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a) Can anyone tell me what is the config of Air Pacific's B744s that were formerly SQ aircrafts? Did Air Pacific retrofit their first and business class cabins or did they retain SQ's Skysuites and Spacebed in First and Business respectively?

b) Can anyone advise how many of SQ's B744 have left the fleet (what are their reg.numbers?) and where/whom were they sold/leased out to?

Thanks


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User currently offlineCornish From United Kingdom (England), joined Feb 2005, 7934 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2385 times:

Quoting SQ772 (Thread starter):
b) Can anyone advise how many of SQ's B744 have left the fleet (what are their reg.numbers?) and where/whom were they sold/leased out to?

I don;t know the registration numbers, but two of the earliest ones went to Air Atlanta and have now been sold on to the new carrier Oasis Hong Kong Airlines which intend flying HKG-LGW from the autumn.


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User currently offlineKL5147 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

4 will be converted for MP as cargo a/c (24061, 24066, 24226, 24975) The last 3 are currently in service with Air India.
See MP 744SF, When? (by A388 Jul 23 2006 in Civil Aviation)


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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 3951 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2328 times:
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Two were flying for Iberia until recently, leased from Air Atlanta. The aircraft are now headed for Oasis Hong Kong. The Singapore regs were 9V-SMC and 9V-SME. The two Air Pacific birds were formally 9V-SMD and 9V-SMB.


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[Edited 2006-07-25 19:07:18]


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User currently offlineAJO From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 503 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

747-412 9A-SPK was written off in a crash at TPE:

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User currently offlineSQ772 From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 1568 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2277 times:

THanks guys for the update. It looks like the ones that had been sold/leased were all from their first batch of 744s... pretty old aircraft by SQ standards.

Can anyone tell me if Air Pacific retained SQ's FIrst and Business class seats on those ex-SQ aircrafts?


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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 4322 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

Quoting SQ772 (Reply 5):
Can anyone tell me if Air Pacific retained SQ's FIrst and Business class seats on those ex-SQ aircrafts?

FJ doesn't offer F class, but i'm pretty sure J class seats are the same ones used by SQ.

9V-SMQ is flying for EL AL now. And 3 are also flying PAX for CX and another 3 to be converted to 744BCF's for CX Cargo.

6 more 744's are due to leave this year as SQ takes delivery of its A380's and 77W's. Always sad to see great aircraft leave their original owner.

User currently offlineJoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 478 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2000 times:

Quoting SQ772 (Thread starter):
It looks like the interior of a former SQ 744 aircraft.

Hi, those two Air Pacific 744's as far as I know are OWNED by SQ however are on a lease (dont ask what type of lease!!)

Before entering service with Air pacific, they were operated by ansett Australia as ANA and ANB before the collapse.

When Air pacific take delivery of the 787's in 2009?? The two 744's will go back to SQ.

User currently offlineSpeedbirdEGJJ From United Kingdom (England), joined Nov 2003, 406 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 1980 times:

Full List of the former SQ Airframes

9V-SMB 24062 to Air Pacific as DQ-FJL
9V-SMC 24063 to Air Atlanta / Iberia as TF-AMA
9V-SMD 24064 to Air Pacific as DQ-FJK
9V-SME 24065 to Air Atlanta / Iberia as TF-AMB
9V-SMF 24066 to Boeing as N728BA
9V-SMG 24266 to Air India as VT-AIE
9V-SMI 24975 to Air India as VT-AIQ
9V-SMK 25127 to Cathay Pacific as B-HKE
9V-SML 25128 to Cathay Pacific as B-HKF
9V-SMN 26548 to Cathay Pacific as B-HKD
9V-SMO 27066 to Air Atlanta as TF-AMI
9V-SMQ 28263 to EL AL as 4X-ELS

Cheers
Ryan


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User currently offlineTL925 From United States, joined Jun 2006, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1965 times:

Quoting SpeedbirdEGJJ (Reply 8):
Hi, those two Air Pacific 744's as far as I know are OWNED by SQ however are on a lease (dont ask what type of lease!!)

Before entering service with Air pacific, they were operated by ansett Australia as ANA and ANB before the collapse.

When Air pacific take delivery of the 787's in 2009?? The two 744's will go back to SQ.

The 2 x Air Pacific aircraft (MSN 24062 and MSN 24064) in addition to the 2 x future Oasis Hong Kong aircraft (MSN 24063 and MSN 24065) were sold by SQ in late 2004. The aircraft are no longer affiliated w/ SQ, except for maintenance agreements.

User currently offlineSpeedbirdEGJJ From United Kingdom (England), joined Nov 2003, 406 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1963 times:

TL925

Not sure what happened there but thats not my post??

Incidentally the list i posted if of the 747-400's that once formed part of the SQ fleet which no longer do, whether it be they've been sold or leased.

Thanks Ryan


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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 4322 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

Quoting Joffie (Reply 7):

When Air pacific take delivery of the 787's in 2009??

2011 that will be.

Quoting SpeedbirdEGJJ (Reply 8):
Full List of the former SQ Airframes

Cheers for that.

Adding to that list.

9V-SMA will go to MP as a 744BCF, there is a photo in the database of it parked up all white.

And any idea on SMH? Maybe to CX?

User currently offlineJoffie From Australia, joined Mar 2006, 478 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1932 times:

Quoting TL925 (Reply 9):
The aircraft are no longer affiliated w/ SQ, except for maintenance agreements.

Really?? didn't know that.

thanks for that info. Do you know who they were bought by?

User currently offlineTL925 From United States, joined Jun 2006, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1915 times:

From a Flight International article in March:

"Used 747s find home at Oasis
Long-haul start-up carrier Oasis Hong Kong Airlines has acquired two used Boeing 747-400s, moving it a step closer to launching services.Oasis has purchased two ex-Singapore Airlines 747-400s from Deucalion Capital, which is owned by Germany’s DVB Bank.
The aircraft, which were built in 1989, are due for delivery in July, after which they will undergo maintenance. The 747-400s are currently in service with Iberia, which is wet-leasing them from Air Atlanta.
Oasis is aiming to launch services in September between its Hong Kong base and London Gatwick. It says it will offer fares substantially lower than the incumbent airlines operating between Hong Kong and London Heathrow."

User currently offlineTL925 From United States, joined Jun 2006, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1909 times:

Apologies SpeedbirdEGJJ, I'm not sure what happened when I selected the Quote option since the post I quoted was the one right above yours???

User currently offlineNZ747 From Fiji, joined Dec 2004, 908 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1870 times:

Quoting TL925 (Reply 9):
The 2 x Air Pacific aircraft (MSN 24062 and MSN 24064) in addition to the 2 x future Oasis Hong Kong aircraft (MSN 24063 and MSN 24065) were sold by SQ in late 2004

DQ-FJK and FJL are still owned by SQ.

User currently offlineTL925 From United States, joined Jun 2006, 63 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 1841 times:

A brief quote from an article from Air Transport Intelligence (unfortunately subscription only website):

"German transport finance specialist DVB Bank has revealed itself as the buyer of four Singapore Airlines Boeing 747-400 aircraft, taking the jets through its Deucalion Capital aviation fund.

Singapore Airlines (SIA) stated last month that it had signed a conditional agreement to sell the aircraft which are presently on lease to other operators – two are with Fiji’s Air Pacific and two with Air Atlanta Icelandic.

Each of the aircraft with their associated leases has been acquired by a separate special-purpose vehicle company."

User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 4322 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

Interesting TL925. I wasn't aware of that. Thanks for that.

User currently offlineBabaero From Philippines, joined Jan 2002, 385 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1685 times:

Dont forget the forth one which went to CX as a BCF conversion

B-HKH this is also ex SQ

User currently offlineKL5147 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2005, 176 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1627 times:

Quoting SpeedbirdEGJJ (Reply 8):
Full List of the former SQ Airframes

Don't forget
9V-SMA 24061/717 to N733BA. Now in Xiamen for conversion to BCF for Martinair as PH-MPP


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User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1580 times:

9V-SMA 24061 to Martin Air as PH-MPP (BCF)
9V-SMB 24062 to Air Pacific as DQ-FJL
9V-SMC 24063 to Air Atlanta / Iberia as TF-AMA
9V-SMD 24064 to Air Pacific as