Jumbojet From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1159 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 years 11 months 3 hours ago) and read 2181 times:
I know in the past there have been north american airlines that have served CAI direct from the states though since 9/11 I believe those flights ceased. Now, to travel to the great country of Egypt one has to connect from a myriad of other countries, most commonly France, Italy, and Spain among others. I am sure it is only a matter of time until a north american airline begins non stop service from the states (New York? Atlanta?) to CAI. The question is, what airline is most likely to start this service and from what airport? CAI is rich in history and appears to be a huge tourist draw. Also, CAI doesn't appear to be that distant from the NY area and would a B767-300ER have the legs to make such a trip?
CaptinTuT From United States of America, joined May 2005, 345 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (6 years 11 months 3 hours ago) and read 2126 times:
hi jumpoJet
this subject has been discussed so many times, and lots of people including myself think that a Us carrier will start flying to CAI after the New Terminal T3 Opens in 2007.
the following link to another thread where you going to find lots of answers to your questions .US Airlines And Cairo hope that helps.
yes MS985 CAI-JFK and MS986 JFK-CAI is going daily now.
Quoting YULYMX (Reply 1): As far as Us carrier... probably CO from EWR, Delta or AA from JFK and UA from ORD and IAD would be a Start
I do agree with you that CO or DL might be first to go to CAI, AA i don't think so for now, and UA I hope even though i don't see it happening soon.
I think once one US Airline start flying that Route it will encourage others to fly there.
CaptinTuT From United States of America, joined May 2005, 345 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (6 years 11 months 1 hour ago) and read 2020 times:
Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 5): would like to, saw a special on Cairo on the history channel last night and it looks unbelievable.
yea, lately there is always something on History Channel about Different Egyptian History, its really a well done documentary. which one did you see last night? last week they had one called "Seven wonders of Ancient Egypt" it was amazing hope you can catch it again.
Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 5): Thanks for the link to the other post.
You welcome
Quoting Jumbojet (Reply 5): Looks like I'd be taking DL from JFK to CDG then Air France the rest of the way.
well from JFK you have many options, only EgyptAir fly Non-Stop to CAI.
but since you thinking about DL from JFK so i'm guessing that you are a delta frequent flyer, which still gives you couple of more options since you can fly any skyteam member and earn millage.
from JFK you can fly either DL, AZ, AF, KLM, CSA plus there is more options LH, BA all of this have easy connection to Cairo since they fly from their home town directly to CAI.
Horus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 62 Reply 7, posted (6 years 11 months 1 hour ago) and read 2013 times:
I'd like to add my two cents to this thread simply because it's something I've been talking about since 2002. As you may (or may not) know pre-9/11 2 US carriers served the Egyptian capital:
Both TWA and DL cancelled their flights in September and October 2001 respectively. DL were supposed to restart flights on 15MAR2002 but it never materialised. Egyptair continued their CAI-JFK route but discontinued their LAX extension and since 2002 their CAI-JFK-CAI flights have gone from strength to strength and from June this year it became a daily B777 service ( Egyptair Go Daily To JFK (Year-Round) (by Horus Mar 24 2006 in Civil Aviation) ). This was soon followed by the launch of dedicated cargo flights to JFK with leased Evergreen B742Fs ( Egyptair To Launch 747 Freighter Flights To JFK (by Horus Apr 14 2006 in Civil Aviation) ).
Several sources have suggested US carriers will once again initiate services to Cairo. No airline has been mentioned, so I can only speculate about the future. I can see DL launching B763 JFK-CAI flights during Summer06 or Summer07 at the latest. ATL-CAI is a good possibility considering the amount of connections DL have out of the airport but the length of the trip might be pushing the B763 to the limit and the airline has no spare B777s to utilise.
CO is another possibility with their rapid international expansion and EWR-JFK seems to be the logical choice. Again I see the B763 being the aircraft of choice here.
UA is an unlikely contender however they did surprise us all earlier this year when they announced IAD-KWI flights. AA are unlikely to return to CAI too.
Until any of the above carriers make a move, MS and European carriers like BA, LH, KL, AZ, etc (via their respective hubs) will continue to dominate the US-CAI market.
On a personal note Jumbojet, I'm glad to hear you're real interest and enthusiasm regarding Egypt and hope you get the opportunity to visit the country soon.
"Egypt Continues to Experience Double-Digit Growth in U.S. Tourism in 2006 Americans continue to visit Egypt in numbers not seen since record setting 2000. The trend continued in May 2006 when 18,935 Americans visited Egypt, a 16.3% increase over the same period in 2005."
Panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4595 posts, RR: 25 Reply 8, posted (6 years 11 months ago) and read 1942 times:
Quoting Horus (Reply 7): CO is another possibility with their rapid international expansion and EWR-JFK seems to be the logical choice. Again I see the B763 being the aircraft of choice here.
While CO is a possibility, they do not operate any 763s and are short of a/c with legs to do EWR-CAI nonstop.
CaptinTuT From United States of America, joined May 2005, 345 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1855 times:
Hey Hours Ops i mean Hours
Thanks for the thoughts
Quoting Panamair (Reply 8): While CO is a possibility, they do not operate any 763s and are short of a/c with legs to do EWR-CAI nonstop.
I do agree with you but at the same time with the competition between CO and DL for NY Market, i would say if DL relaunch CAI we might see CO following soon.
WesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5395 posts, RR: 25 Reply 11, posted (6 years 10 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 1743 times:
Theres a few more 777's being built, and of course the 20 787s. Hopefully, they can find a 762 or 764 to do EWR-CAI, it'll save me from doing SLC-IAH-EWR-FCO on CO then FCO-ATH on Aegean and ATH-CAI on EgyptAir, although that WAS quite fun. I might do that again next spring, who knows!
Woohoo! Back to Beirut in Oct '13! (Along with a stop in DOH for 4 days)
CaptinTuT From United States of America, joined May 2005, 345 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1664 times:
Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 11): it'll save me from doing SLC-IAH-EWR-FCO on CO then FCO-ATH on Aegean and ATH-CAI on EgyptAir
wow what a trip, i'm sure there was more shorter way to do that trip, on the other hand i'm like you i would take this long one just to enjoy the different airlines and different aircrafts
WesternA318 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 5395 posts, RR: 25 Reply 13, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1633 times:
Quoting CaptinTuT (Reply 12): wow what a trip, i'm sure there was more shorter way to do that trip, on the other hand i'm like you i would take this long one just to enjoy the different airlines and different aircrafts
Exactly why I did it. The girlfriend at the time though, thought otherwise, lol.
Woohoo! Back to Beirut in Oct '13! (Along with a stop in DOH for 4 days)
CaptinTuT From United States of America, joined May 2005, 345 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (6 years 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1625 times:
Quoting WesternA318 (Reply 13): The girlfriend at the time though, thought otherwise, lol
I smell my wife there,
No one will ever understand the love of being on aircraft expect one of us, No one will ever understand why we always look up in the sky and grab our cameras to take a pictures once we see a plane up in the sky, No one will ever understand why we love to go to the airport.
man lots and lots that many people will think we are crazy(including my wife) lol