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DET Airport Launches Air Passenger Service  
User currently offlineNeilalp From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1034 posts, RR: 1
Posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4609 times:

Per the news...

Flights will run between Detroit, Cleveland and Cincinnati.
The service is from a Cleveland-based Charter Company called Destination One. A round-trip ticket to Cleveland will cost $341.00 and a round trip ticket to Cincinnati will cost $428.00.

The service will start July 31.

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/9571894/detail.html


Seems costly to me but at least they are giving it shot.

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User currently offlineFOMEA From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 849 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4597 times:

Quoting Neilalp (Thread starter):
Seems costly to me but at least they are giving it shot.

Exactly my thoughts.
Whats with those Prices? Are they usually that high?



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User currently offlineLesMainwaring From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 542 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4562 times:

the airlines web is ... www.flydestinationone.com

they are flying from downtown airports in detroit (city), cleveland (burke) and cincinnati (lunken) ... other destinations include hilton head and kiawah, s.c. using embraer 120s



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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4537 times:

Someone started a thread on this not long ago from the BKL perspective.

User currently offline2H4 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 8955 posts, RR: 60
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4537 times:
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I wonder if that price includes armed escorts to and from the DET terminal...




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[Edited 2006-07-25 20:45:01]


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User currently offlineKevin82277 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 179 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4497 times:

Cleveland to Hilton Head. I am not sure I want to spend over 3 hours in a EMB-120 for $395. I can buy a much cheaper airfare to SAV for much shorter time.

User currently offlineLuv2fly From United States of America, joined May 2003, 12103 posts, RR: 49
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4477 times:
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Quoting 2H4 (Reply 4):


I wonder if that price includes armed escorts to and from the DET terminal...

Yeah since airports tend to be located in only the best areas of town, i.e. EWR!



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User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8671 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 4447 times:

I've 1hr and 30min on a Comair E120 MCO-NAS and back to MCO. Not that bad. I could do 3hrs on Dash 8 easily.

Btw, $849 rond trip. I can get a chaper walk up fare.

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User currently offlineTheLUREnyc From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4349 times:

Does anyone have any photos of this new carrier?

User currently offlineScutfarcus From United States of America, joined May 2000, 398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4245 times:

fascinating... it's a very good idea, but gonna take a lot. I'm suprised they don't go from DET to bigger markets like New York or MDW. Well, this is worth watching for sure.

User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4192 times:

DET didn't work for Southwest. It will be interesting to see if this works.


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User currently onlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5418 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4100 times:

Quoting Neilalp (Thread starter):
Seems costly to me but at least they are giving it shot.

They must have some guaranteed business to be starting up these routes. Cleveland has three really big law firms that could be behind it. They can't be planning to live off of walk-up tourists.

One-stop to Hilton Head at over three hours does seem a bit long, although it's had to get to SAV in less time. Two and a quarter to Kiawah isn't bad at all, though. The fares? If you can afford the greens fees, you can afford the fares.

Added: For comparison, CLE-DTW r/t fares for a two day trip next week on CO or NW are over $400.

[Edited 2006-07-26 07:55:19]


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User currently offlineNtspelich From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4059 times:

A relative of mine is tied in with this venture, and he was telling me that they already have pretty solid bookings for both routes. Lots of business travellers willing to pay for the convience. The parent company also runs lots of charters on ERJs that they picked up from, I believe, ExpressJet.

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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 3959 times:
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I've checked on fares from DTW-CLE and these guys seem to be competitive. DET is in a ROUGH part of town and I would worry about my car if I left it in a parking area at DET.


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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7565 posts, RR: 28
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3853 times:

This is basically a glorified charter operation. I wouldn't get to excited about the return of air service to DET. This is a niche operation at best.

User currently onlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5418 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3774 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 14):
This is a niche operation at best.

Anything commercial activity, even public charters, at DET, BKL, and LUK is exciting.  Smile



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User currently offlineOptionsCLE From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 3751 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 15):
Anything commercial activity, even public charters, at DET, BKL, and LUK is exciting.

I agree! Flights from BKL would be very convenient for east-side Clevelanders. Of course CGF would be even better...we can all dream.

I just checked out a ticket BKL-DET-BKL and it's $212.85 for mid August, that's pretty reasonable.

Best of luck to them!


User currently offlineChrisjake From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 869 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 3714 times:

they currently have 3 aircraft tied to this service. N651CT and N652CT will be doing most of the flying at 1st. N267AS is the other one, its in Fla right now and will probably be there for awhile yet.


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User currently offlineMbm3 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 839 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 3698 times:
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It will be interesting to how these new routes do for Destination One. I agree that a lot of the big legal and financial firms here in Cleveland would love the easy logistics of this service, though the weekend golfer flights seem to be a bit of a stretch.

I am surprise that Columbus or Pittsburgh were not on the list, though they may not have a smaller airport closer to downtown.



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User currently onlineMasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 5418 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3652 times:

Quoting Mbm3 (Reply 18):
I am surprise that Columbus or Pittsburgh were not on the list,

Pittsburgh has Allegheny County Airport, about 8 miles SE of downtown. Maybe it will be come with the arrival of the third aircraft.

I remember liking Brasilias (need for speed); hope I get a chance to try this service.



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User currently offlineFalstaff From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 6088 posts, RR: 29
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3622 times:
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Quoting Jetdeltamsy (Reply 10):
DET didn't work for Southwest

An article in 7-27-06 Detroit Free Press stated that the best year for the airport was in 1990 with 782,679 passengers. That was when Southwest was there. How long was Southwest at DET?



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User currently offlineFI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3561 times:

Don't forget ProAir who operated from DET for several years.
Early on they were quite successful.



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User currently offlineEXAAUADL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3499 times:

Their frequency doesnt seem high enough. Also the EM-120 might be a bit big for these routes. Nothing good can come from low frequency with "large" planes in a business market.

Fly those routes 5-7x Mon-Fri with Beech 1900s or Cessna 402s.

Weekends charter them out. I am not sure that would work either, but a business plan with a EMB-120 and 1-2 weekday flights per market wont work unless they have a contract with some big company already.


User currently offlineFilejw From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3476 times:

The might make it. Long time ago wright Airlines flew DET to BKL with CV 440's and did well.

[Edited 2006-07-29 15:02:23]

User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3466 times:

There once was a very successful operator between BKL and DET; TAG Airlines.

The fare oneway between the two airports was $14.00, which by the way was higher than the $10.00 fare charged by the major airlines between DTW and CLE.

They did really good business until a fatal crash squashed public confidence.

$14.00 in 2006 dollars is $89.16.



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25 OptionsCLE : Add in 2006 fuel prices and $99.00 one way on this new carrier looks pretty reasonable.
26 KarlB737 : I believe DET was working for Southwest. I flew out of there during that time and the terminal was packed. However WN wanted longer concrete from the
27 Jetdeltamsy : Whatever the reason, they pulled out. So clearly, as i said, it wasn't working for them. I couldn't understand why they tried to service both fields
28 Stirling : I have heard from those on the inside at WN, that DET became an issue of safety. Nothing more.
29 SBNair3022 : how did this airline go undetected for so long? Shouldn't it have been big news if the airline wanted to make a splash and really get into the market?
30 OPNLguy : True. The existing 15/33 couldn't be extended due to cemetaries at either end, so there was talk of building a parallel to 15/33. That ran into a sna
31 MasseyBrown : Given their route system, they don't really need much of a splash outside of Cincinnati, Cleveland, and Detroit. In the days of Tag, Wright, Freedom,
32 Post contains links KarlB737 : Courtesy: Mercury News Passenger Service Restart Delayed At Detroit City Airport http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...ws/news/breaking_news/15170804
33 Post contains links KarlB737 : An Update On Detroit City Airport - DET Courtesy: The Detroit News A New Hope For City Airport http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll...e?AID=/20060812/
34 Access-Air : no but I think that Wright Airlines did.....before they merged in the mid 80s with Aeromech they flew Convair 600s and 640s into and out of Burke and
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