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Ecuador Aviation Thread (Last Habitat Of The 721)  
User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3836 posts, RR: 51
Posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4655 times:

Hola Amigos,

They always have those Aviation in India / Ireland / Brazil / Australia / Hawaii ... threads, so I decided to start one about Ecuador where we can discuss anything of interest to civil aviation in this small country. (And the only place where you can fly as a passenger on a 721, F28 and Hercules in one day)

First of all, I was wondering about the fleet status of TAME. Have they received all of their Embraers yet? How far are they in their process of gaining CAT 1 to operate flights to Miami again? Remember, TAMEs route map once went to the USA, Cuba, Colombia and Chile.

Also, I'm interested to know the status about the new airport at UIO. When I worked for EMSA a year ago, all they did was slowly postpone the date from 2008 to 2009 to 2010.

Saludos!
Soren  santahat 


All the things you probably hate about travelling are warm reminders that I'm home
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User currently offlineTjr16698 From Italy, joined Feb 2004, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4632 times:

Hi Soren
Can't answer any of your questions I'm afraid, but your comments do take me back to October last year, and my flights to and from the Galapagos on those 721s. She really did take a long time to get airborne fron the high altitude of Quito! When she did get off the ground though it was very very quiet.
cheers
Russ


User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4607 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Remember, TAMEs route map once went to the USA, Cuba, Colombia and Chile.

It still does to Colombia, though it would be ideal to see more frequencies on the market.

Regarding Ecuador-Colombia flights, AeroGal is supposed to be flying to Bogota and Medellin, the company's first two international destinations, since July 10. They should be flying UIO-BOG twice daily, GYE-BOG once daily, and UIO-MDE twice weekly. Can anybody confirm they are doing so?


SOUTHAMERICA


User currently offlineAirportmanager From Ecuador, joined Mar 2001, 558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
First of all, I was wondering about the fleet status of TAME. Have they received all of their Embraers yet? How far are they in their process of gaining CAT 1 to operate flights to Miami again? Remember, TAMEs route map once went to the USA, Cuba, Colombia and Chile.

Tame 727-100, OUT, HC-BLE is out of service now and wont fly again. No more 721's in Ecuador.

Tame has

2 B722
2 F28MK4
2 EMB170
2 A320
1 EMB 190

And thats it. Tame plans to fly to CARACAS, miami.

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Also, I'm interested to know the status about the new airport at UIO. When I worked for EMSA a year ago, all they did was slowly postpone the date from 2008 to 2009 to 2010.

Quito's New Airport Ready By 2010 (by MaverickM11 Jul 25 2006 in Civil Aviation)

There you go. new topic about this "GREAT" new airport

Quoting SOUTHAMERICA (Reply 2):
Regarding Ecuador-Colombia flights, AeroGal is supposed to be flying to Bogota and Medellin, the company's first two international destinations, since July 10. They should be flying UIO-BOG twice daily, GYE-BOG once daily, and UIO-MDE twice weekly. Can anybody confirm they are doing so?

Tame flys to CALI daily I think. Aerogal startd flights to bogota yesterday, twice daily and also 2 times a week to medellin. Thats all I know about aerogal


Any other questions regarding ecuadorian aviation?


User currently offlineErikgnoha From Venezuela, joined Jun 2006, 214 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4558 times:

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 3):
Tame plans to fly to CARACAS, miami.

Excellent news. The route CCS-GYE-UIO deserves competition. Do you know how in Santa Barbara doing in that route? I think they are flying 5 times a week.



Venezuela, donde los suenos renacen
User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4544 times:

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 3):
Tame flys to CALI daily I think.

It's only three times a week, unless they changed it very very recently.

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 3):

I see. Almost 15 days after the initially planned launch date then.



SOUTHAMERICA


User currently offlineLVZXV From Gabon, joined Mar 2004, 2041 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4525 times:

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 3):
Tame 727-100, OUT, HC-BLE is out of service now and wont fly again. No more 721's in Ecuador.

Now that is sad, I was planning a trip to Ecuador in September (not for reasons of aviation) during which I was kinda hoping I could fly on her--probably just as well as my trip has been postponed to February 2007.

Oh well, there is still CP-861 in Bolivia operating for LAB, quite possibly the last 721 in all of Latin America flying passengers (just think how many there were barely two years ago!).

Saludos,

ZXV



How do you say "12 months" in Estonian?
User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3836 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4469 times:

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 3):
Tame 727-100, OUT, HC-BLE is out of service now and wont fly again. No more 721's in Ecuador

That's really sad. So is BLE going to be scrapped, or put into the static collection of the FAE at Mariscal Sucre (unlikely, because of the space?) or is she going to keep flying for the FAE as an executive transport? From all I knew, and from the various flights I've been on -BLE and -BLF (rest in peace), those 721s were in great shape. While it may be true that TAME has lost a considerable amount of planes in crashes during the last couple of decades, I believe that none of these were lost due to technical faults.

Quoting Airportmanager (Reply 3):
Tame has

2 B722
2 F28MK4
2 EMB170
2 A320
1 EMB 190

Is this final, or are they receiving any more in the future? That's a lot of new metal there, 5 brand new planes. But I see a shortage coming, when the Embraers replace the Fokkers and the 727-100 and the A320s do the Galapagos flights, there's need for at least one more A320 or 722 sized plane for the proposed CCS flight.

Soren  santahat 



All the things you probably hate about travelling are warm reminders that I'm home
User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4462 times:

Hi!

This getting exciting, South America at their best! Well maybe only in Ecuador you can fly has a passenger the 721, but in Colombia I saw a few 721's still flying strong. LAS have at least 2 around: HK-4401 and HK-1273, and I also noticed an AEROSUCRE 721 but I couldn't get an hold on the registration. It was amazing in the morning, you could listen to those engines and you imediatelly knew that it was a 727 flying around! Simply great!
Regards


User currently offlineAtnight From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 607 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 4398 times:

This is a great thread!! Glad someone started it!
I am wondering what are the news from Icaro? Are they planning to go International? I heard somewhere they were planning to start flying to the US... Anyways, is sad to see the B721 go, but the new EMBs are soo nice... super quiet! About time we see newer planes flying around...

Quoting CV990 (Reply 8):
in Colombia I saw a few 721's still flying strong. LAS have at least 2 around: HK-4401 and HK-1273, and I also noticed an AEROSUCRE 721

As I think you tried to say, in Colombia you still see a few B721 flying around, but as cargo if I'm not mistaking...



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User currently offlineAirportmanager From Ecuador, joined Mar 2001, 558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4380 times:

Quoting CV990 (Reply 8):
AEROSUCRE 721 but I couldn't get an hold on the registration.

WOWOW! IS that the one with the Thumb on the tail? I wonde what ever happened to HK-727. The flying museum! That 727 has some hisotry, or had???

Quoting Atnight (Reply 9):
they were planning to start flying to the US.

Theres a charter to orlando in a few days, nothing else so far  Sad


User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4372 times:

Quoting Birdwatching (Thread starter):
Remember, TAMEs route map once went to the USA, Cuba, Colombia and Chile.

Peru and Brazil as well, IIRC.

One other thing worth noting, unless things have changed. It's the only place I know of where you can fly a commercial flight(C-130) with a USAF pilot on duty at the controls. When I was living down there, there was always a USAF pilot with the milgroup assigned to help with flying their C-130s.

I even had a chance to take a C-130 to Galapagos (they were even going to let me jump in from the ramp!) but had to pass due to work.

 banghead 



Where are all of my respected members going?
User currently offlinePRGLY From Czech Republic, joined Dec 2004, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 4372 times:

Since it is very complicated to get detailed info from TAME website, can somebody help me to know what routes are operated by E-jets. TAME schedule info does not include type of aircraft used on particular route.


just fly - it is nice
User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 5 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4349 times:

Hi!

After what Airportmanager said about AEROSUCRE 721 I feel REALLY guilty I didn't got the registration and a photo of the plane!!!
Regards


User currently offlineClo1973 From Colombia, joined Apr 2006, 243 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 5 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 4279 times:

Quoting PRGLY (Reply 12):
can somebody help me to know what routes are operated by E-jets. TAME schedule info does not include type of aircraft used on particular route.

Tame flies Quito - Tulcan - Cali (its only regular international route as far as I know) in a Embraer 170, three times per week.


User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4359 posts, RR: 35
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4198 times:

Great thread, I was actually considering an Ecuadorian trip this fall, also because Avianca has interesting fares from Miami to Quito.
Soren, I remember last year you went on the Fairchild F-27 of Petroecuador. I will try and get on that one, you or 'Airportmanager' have an idea if it still operates? Which days would be best to try?
The Hercules pax flight would be absolutely great as well, what routes? Do they have a ticket office at the airport?
Any other suggestions of do's and don't there, other rare routes, types and airlines?
Even If I only manage to get on half of the 722, F-28, F-27 and C-130 I'll have a great trip.



nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlinePRGLY From Czech Republic, joined Dec 2004, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4177 times:

Quoting Clo1973 (Reply 14):
Tame flies Quito - Tulcan - Cali (its only regular international route as far as I know) in a Embraer 170, three times per week.

What the hell they do with E-jets rest of the time



just fly - it is nice
User currently offlineAV757 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 662 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4139 times:

Ex AV HK727 is still flying with Aerosucre with its thumb up livery on the tail.

AV757


User currently offlineAirportmanager From Ecuador, joined Mar 2001, 558 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4098 times:

Quoting PRGLY (Reply 16):
What the hell they do with E-jets rest of the time

Umm TAME, the airline, doesnt only fly to CALI, so, they use the ejets on other routes such as

San Cristobal (Galapagos)
Baltra (Galapagos)
Cuenca
Guayaquil
Nueva Loja
Manta
Esmeraldas
Panama (Charter)
Tulcan

Quite good I say


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