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User currently offlineNwafflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1050 posts, RR: 2
Posted (8 years 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2373 times:

I've flown too may NWA flights lately, where the seat (first class) - reclines the moment you sit in it -- same seat has you upside down during takeoff

It doesn't matter what you do with the button on the side - the seat does it all by itself

I don't think this is particularly safe, so - first time it happened, I notified the flight attendant - next thing I knew, I was back in middle seat, aisle 12. That isn't satisfactory, so now I try and literally hold the seat in it's position, and I don't report it (or my back/neck muscles) to the FA

Are there any other alternatives?

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User currently offlineBrettdespain From United States of America, joined May 2005, 178 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (8 years 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2362 times:

Keep reporting it. It is a safety issue for ground evacuations. If you keep having problems, write a letter to customer service. Often, they can offer you some incentives to keep you as a customer.

I know this sounds terribly obvious, but also make sure your leg or knee isn't touching the button. (I know, I know but it still happens to me once in a while.)

Brett



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User currently offlineSfomb67 From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 417 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2336 times:

These are called "rockers." Broken recline mech.


Not as easy as originally perceived
User currently offlineCVG2LGA From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 630 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2309 times:

WOW! I thought maybe I was just crazy the first time, but then today I thought well I should get to the gym. Now I realize its probably a little of both and this new revelation. I flew ORD-LGA on 7/22 and the seat would not stay up, made me feel like an idiot the whole flight to LGA, especially on t/o and landing. Then this afternoon, I board another flight back to ORD and the same dang thing! But what can you do? Just go with the flow.
And I did make sure, cause at first I thought ok I must be touching the button, but after careful consideration not too it still happened. Great service on AA this weekend.
Tchau
DA-



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User currently offlineOutlier From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2286 times:

This really should be "Broken Seats"

User currently offlineMotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3139 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (8 years 5 days ago) and read 2173 times:

Fly a different airline perhaps?! Unless you're in Detroit.

Regards
MH



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User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5398 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (8 years 5 days ago) and read 2163 times:

Quoting Nwafflyer (Thread starter):
I don't think this is particularly safe, so - first time it happened, I notified the flight attendant - next thing I knew, I was back in middle seat, aisle 12. That isn't satisfactory, so now I try and literally hold the seat in it's position, and I don't report it (or my back/neck muscles) to the FA

In First Class seats it seems to be fairly common. I fly 4 legs/week and I must have been in 2 or 3 seats past few months that had the same problem.

Quoting Brettdespain (Reply 1):
Keep reporting it.

Problem is....2 weeks ago I was on US air flight. Guy in FC reported problem ... engineers came onboard and spent an HOUR trying to fix seat. Couldn't fix it and ended up removing seat! The poor guy who had a FC seat had to get next flight!

Jimbo



I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
User currently offlineBaroque From Australia, joined Apr 2006, 15380 posts, RR: 59
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

Quoting Nwafflyer (Thread starter):
I don't think this is particularly safe, so - first time it happened, I notified the flight attendant - next thing I knew, I was back in middle seat, aisle 12. That isn't satisfactory, so now I try and literally hold the seat in it's position, and I don't report it (or my back/neck muscles) to the FA

You are lucky the FA did not blame you for causing the problem! Gulf FAs especially do not like to be told of faulty seats, you end up feeling you personally caused all the trouble.


User currently offlineL1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1670 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2039 times:
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Over the past two weeks I was on two different KLM MD-11s in economy, and both times the seat kept reclining by itself. I tried to keep it up during takeoff and landing when the flight attendants walked by, but it was impossible to keep it up all through the meal service. Thankfully, the person behind me didn't complain. I've had this happen on quite a few flights. I don't report it before takeoff on a full flight because they might put me off. I usually tell them as I am deplaining, since by then I am already at my destination.

Bob Bradley
Richmond, VA



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User currently offlineJAFA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 782 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1969 times:

If this happens please tell the crew otherwise it won't be fixed. As a last resort tell they crew before deplaning. Otherwise it will continue to fly around that way. Preflight checks don't involve checking the recline mechanism.
Some seats can be fixed by pulling forward and then pushing it back into its upright position. Others can be fixed by holding in the recline button and "pumping the seat back" between its reclined and upright postition.


User currently offlineMendaero From Australia, joined Jul 2006, 62 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1892 times:

The recline actuator (hydrolok) could be stuffed, or it could be the recline button/cable could be binding, or the adjustment nuts on the end of the actuator could have come loose, stoping the actuator from locking. Either fault, it is not usually a bid deal to fix, given 30 mins max. Locking it up is usually the quick fix. But if it cant be fixed or locked upright, the seat should not be sold.
ie "tray tables must be stowed and seats in the upright position for takeoff and landing"


User currently offlineBond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5398 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1849 times:

Quoting Mendaero (Reply 10):
The recline actuator (hydrolok) could be stuffed, or it could be the recline button/cable could be binding, or the adjustment nuts on the end of the actuator could have come loose, stoping the actuator from locking. Either fault, it is not usually a bid deal to fix, given 30 mins max. Locking it up is usually the quick fix. But if it cant be fixed or locked upright, the seat should not be sold.
ie "tray tables must be stowed and seats in the upright position for takeoff and landing"

On the US flight I was on, something like a metal pin actually sheared off! They tried to fix it so it was fixed in upright position but couldn't...after one hour delay missed my connection!


Jimbo



I'd rather be on the ground wishing I was in the air, than in the air wishing I was on the ground!
User currently offlineZSOFN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1413 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

I remember a few years back my dad telling me that on an AC 744 flight (YYC-LHR) he reported the same problem, with much regret as it turns out, as the F/A reported it up front and departure was delayed a good 45 mins as someone came on to try to fix it. Apparently they were adamant that the aircraft was "unsafe" until fixed.

User currently offlineJohnKrist From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 1399 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1799 times:
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I had an experience like that on a UN leased Tu-154, when I sat down I fell into the lap of the person behind me and I had to sit upright for 4,5 hours with no backrest. When I complained to the russian crew they only said "no understand, no understand". That's safety at it's best, and not to mention the radial thread sticking out of the very well worn tires Big grin


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