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Kingfisher's Engine Choices  
User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6938 posts, RR: 63
Posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

Kingfisher (IT) have been ridiculed (somewhat) for buying 5 x A330-200, 5 x A350-800, 5 x A340-500 and 5 x A380-800. I'm not sure the sniggering is deserved but they appear to be adopting a similar eccentric policy regarding engines.

Their A350s will have GE (assuming the order for the previous version of A350-800 is converted to the new one and assuming that GE continue to offer the GEnx on it).
Their A340s only come with RR.
And now they've selected PW for their A330s.

So, without further orders, they'll have 5 widebodies with PW, 5 with GE and 5 with RR. I'm sure they know what they're doing but it does seem an unnecessary and avoidable extra cost.

So, we should assume they'll choose the EA GP7200 for their A380s to complete the set?

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User currently offlineRaggi From Norway, joined exactly 14 years ago today! , 1001 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2092 times:

Yes, very peculiar indeed.
It's nice to see PW get some new orders on the 330.
I guess GP for the 388s, and, (if they get them) RR for the 350-1000, that would be the icing on the cake! =)

raggi



Stick & Rudder
User currently offlineAviator27 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1992 times:

Keeping the same manufacturer across different engines doesn't really have any benefit. There is no commonality between engines from same manufacturer for A330, A350, and A380. There are just no interchangeable parts. So why not take the best deal you can get?

User currently offlineGEnxPower From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 121 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1962 times:

They should get A320's with IA and get some B737 with CFM's! They will operate a little engine museum on the side.

On a more serious note, I would assume it is easier to work with one engine manufacturer just to keep the services eaiser. It is probably easier to train your workers and MX crew.


User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6938 posts, RR: 63
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1920 times:

Quoting GEnxPower (Reply 3):
They should get A320's with IA

They already have. Lots of them!

Quoting Aviator27 (Reply 2):
Keeping the same manufacturer across different engines doesn't really have any benefit.

You may be right but...

Quoting GEnxPower (Reply 3):
I would assume it is easier to work with one engine manufacturer just to keep the services eaiser. It is probably easier to train your workers and MX crew.

That would be my guess too. It certainly seems to be the case that airlines often tend to stick with one engine supplier where they have a choice.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 1904 times:

Interesting to note Kingfisher operates their A320s powered by V2500s,Where as most operators out here are opting for CFM56Bs after their Initial Aircraft on V2500.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6938 posts, RR: 63
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1875 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 5):
most operators out here are opting for CFM56Bs after their Initial Aircraft on V2500.

You're obviously thinking of Indian Airlines but who else has made the switch? IndiGo, for example have chosen IAE.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1783 times:

Quoting PM (Reply 6):
You're obviously thinking of Indian Airlines but who else has made the switch? IndiGo, for example have chosen IAE

IC & GOair some Aircraft currently.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineCricket From India, joined Aug 2005, 2971 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1762 times:

Quoting HAWK21M (Reply 7):
GOair some Aircraft currently.

The first three leased GoAir aircraft have V2500's but the 30 new planes they're buying will be CFM56 powered. However, the point has to be made that India is such a huge market that most engine manufacturers are looking up at setting maint and overhaul stations here - GE is already talking about one in DEL thanks to the AI order and this will also benefit all CFM56 operators and 9W thanks to the 777-300ER and A330 orders. Kingfisher opting for Pratt's on the A330 is surprising because it seems that PW engines had almost gone out of style on that aircraft, great for Pratt since they've not been in the best of form after the AI 744 order. Even RR needs to work a bit on the Indian market.



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User currently offlineCalvin99 From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2001, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 1728 times:

Quoting Cricket (Reply 8):
Even RR needs to work a bit on the Indian market.

RR is certainly lacking within India market and they are trying hard to penetrate into the market. Recently, RR did a study on India's market to study a possibility of a new engine overhaul base (currently in Asia Pacific, they have one in Hong Kong, HAESL, and one in Singapore, SAESL). They study concluded there is no prospoect in short to medium term to open up new overhaul bases as they simply do not have enough RR engines operating there.

IMHO, Kingfisher A340-500's engine will be overhauled at either HKG or SIN.


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