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A HK Girl Expelled From A Jet Because Of A Hangbag  
User currently offlineCXCPA From Hong Kong, joined May 2000, 387 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 22592 times:

http://community.she.com/messageboar...index.cfm?bdid=11&topic_id=1716869
http://www.yucheecrew.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=13351

Indeed, this incident is well known in many HK forum.

The brief of the event:
On 7 Jul, flight CX504 from Hong Kong to Narita, a HK girl refuse to place her Gucci handbag under the seat. Due to safety, the pilots refuse to take off and annouce to the passenger that due to that passenger refuse to place the handbag under the seat, take-off will be delayed. And then, the Flgiht Attendants explained to that passenger it is a safety measure and she can hold her handbag after take off. And flight attendant also suggested that the flight attendant can help her to place the handbag to the overhead luggage shelf if she think the floor is dirty. But she refused because she think it is too high.
Eventually, the airline called police. That passenger left the flight. It causes the flight delay for more than one hour.

After that, that passenger posted the event on the Web to critise the airline and the HK male passengers not support her. However, many people on the Net critise that passenger.

P.S. Rumors say that passenger has already flied a complaint to Cathay. Hope to see how Cathay response such complaint.

126 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 22582 times:

1. Pax is a silly cow and deserved to get kicked off the flight.
2. Rules are rules, it goes under the seat in the overhead locker.
3. Complaining about it afterwards just makes it worse. She should just shut up and learn her lesson.


User currently onlineTonyBurr From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1030 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 22549 times:

It is standard procedure on any airline to place all bags under the seat or on the overhead bin. This is for safety. If the girl refused to do so, the airline and crew acted correctly. The girl was wrong.

User currently offlineCXCPA From Hong Kong, joined May 2000, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 22549 times:

http://hkadb.no-ip.org:8080/hkadb/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9200

Another HK forum with 2 pictures

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 1):
Complaining about it afterwards just makes it worse. She should just shut up and learn her lesson.

But in HK, every thing can complain no matter right or wrong.

It seems the event is true.


User currently offlineLTBEWR From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13073 posts, RR: 12
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 22482 times:

Is Hong Kong aircraft security under the PRC, or does HK have their own authority?
Probably this woman feared the purse (and it contents) being stolen. Maybe it had counterban in it (that she somehow got through security). Then again, maybe she is from a well off family and thinks is entitled to exemptions from such rules.


User currently offlineSwissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 22482 times:

Just flew with Jazz the other day and a lady had a little puddle as a cabin luggage...... no problem but she refused to close the little doggy bag for take off............ argument with f/a over it, then she finally closed it and put it under the seat for t/o so I thought!!!! she waited until f/a was strapped in and she opened the bag again and before in know that f.... dog was on her lab during t/o...... I wish airlines would start enforcing the rules strictly, I am
so tiered of these kind of idiots..................

Back to topic, the crew did the right thing, CX should charge her for the delay.

Cheers,


User currently offlineTerryb99 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 22439 times:

http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/7752/1wu2.jpg


http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/1293/2wc6.jpg


User currently offlineReyes27 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 22403 times:

I am sure compensation will be demanded....................

User currently offlineN503JB From Hong Kong, joined May 2000, 301 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 22403 times:

CX cabin crew did the right thing, for sure!

N503JB



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User currently offlineBennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7525 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 22374 times:

Not clear how it was "too high". Presumably if she could not reach, then the FA could place it in there.

If the floor is dirty, put it in a duty free bag and then put it on the floor. Alternatively do the FA's have a place to stow it.

Surely this could have been sorted in less than 1 hr.


User currently offlineMattRB From Canada, joined Apr 2005, 1624 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 22330 times:

Quoting Swissy (Reply 5):
dog was on her lab during t/o

Lucky there weren't any problems and the a/c didn't have to perform an RTO.. dog would've been made into hamburger meat pretty quickly.



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User currently offlineCloudyapple From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2005, 2454 posts, RR: 10
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 22330 times:

Quoting CXCPA (Thread starter):
Rumors say that passenger has already flied a complaint to Cathay. Hope to see how Cathay response such complaint.

Duh!? What a dumb a$$! I'm sure the crew dealt with her in the most professional manner. Only in HK can people in the wrong file a complaint! If in the UK, she would have been charged for endangering an aircraft...



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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 22000 times:

CX is very anal about these restrictions. Every time in F/J, I kick off my shoes as soon as I make it to the seat. CX is the only airline who has *every single time* told me to wear shoes for takeoff. Also, my wife's handbag next to her on the seat in J is no good. It needs to go upstairs.  Yeah sure

We certainly wouldn't make a scene that obviously happened in NRT, but it's a bit annoying at times about ridiculously minor things such as shoes. I've seen big 3 suitcases on the floor in LH F with nobody saying anything.



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User currently offlineQantas744ER From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1288 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 21889 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 12):
We certainly wouldn't make a scene that obviously happened in NRT, but it's a bit annoying at times about ridiculously minor things such as shoes. I've seen big 3 suitcases on the floor in LH F with nobody saying anything.

They actually do that in LH aswell, i was flying FRA-LAX last year in F on LH on the upper deck, and i had my eastpack backpack on the floor, infront of my seat, and the FA kindly asked me to put itup because of safety reasons.

And as long its for safety I accept it Big grin

BTW im doing MUC-LAX on Sunday on LH in F again but this time no 744  Sad

Cheers Leo



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User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 21866 times:

Quoting Qantas744ER (Reply 13):
They actually do that in LH aswell, i was flying FRA-LAX last year in F on LH on the upper deck, and i had my eastpack backpack on the floor, infront of my seat, and the FA kindly asked me to put itup because of safety reasons.

I guess it depends. The family on my recent flight had three big LV suitcases right on the floor, nobody said a word.

That's not OK imho though, but this shoes+handbag stuff on CX is a bit extreme IMHO.



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User currently offlineGeniusjacky From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 21866 times:

Lufthansa747, better be safe than regret. It's just in case for the ease of evacuation.
That woman btw, is unbelivable. What is so good about the bag holding in her hand? Was she thinking that would be stolen? I wonder what she would do if CX simply say it does not care about the complain. That is ridiculous.


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 16, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 21843 times:

Quoting Geniusjacky (Reply 15):
Lufthansa747, better be safe than regret. It's just in case for the ease of evacuation.

Sure, but it's ridiculous. AFAIK CX has no infant seat belts - that's what they told me. And then they care about a bloody handbag...



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User currently offlineKlyk1980 From Canada, joined Jan 2004, 153 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 21646 times:

Quoting LTBEWR (Reply 4):

HK police is seperate with PRC. HK with its own law system.


User currently offlineSwissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 21567 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 16):
Sure, but it's ridiculous. AFAIK CX has no infant seat belts - that's what they told me. And then they care about a bloody handbag...

Which is a problem in general with the airlines because there is still that dangerous "Infant" fare............

Any loose stuff should be stowed properly away regardless if you have been ask to do so or not it is about safety not about your bad habits.........

Cheers,


User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 21532 times:

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 12):
it's a bit annoying at times about ridiculously minor things such as shoes

It wouldn't be so minor in an accident. Walking across wreakage barefoot or in stocking feet doesn't sound like much fun to me. Or tripping on someone elses clodhoppers while I'm trying to evacuate no thanks. What is so horrible about waiting an extra 10-20 minutes until the aircraft has cleared the most dangerous period of flight to take off your shoes? You already have to wait to recline your seat it's not like you can get completely comfy.

Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 16):
CX has no infant seat belts - that's what they told me

Many air transportation authorities including the US FAA have determined that the infant safety belts are more dangerous to the infant than just being held. Babies bodies are not designed to take the brunt of the impact soley across the pelvis and in the evacuation the device could prove too cumbersome to escape.

Quoting Swissy (Reply 5):
she waited until f/a was strapped in and she opened the bag again and before in know that f.... dog was on her lab during t/o...... I wish airlines would start enforcing the rules strictly, I am
so tiered of these kind of idiots..................

I like it when the airlines enforce the rules too. But in this example the woman was willfully sneaky and disobedient. What more could the FA do. It appeared the woman complied so the FA took her jumpseat (as is required by law). Should the FA stand next to that woman's seat the whole flight.

Quoting Swissy (Reply 5):
the crew did the right thing, CX should charge her for the delay.

I 100% agree. Delays are expensive. If a passenger causes one they should be held financially responsible.


User currently offlineSwissy From Switzerland, joined Jan 2005, 1734 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 21485 times:

Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 19):
I like it when the airlines enforce the rules too. But in this example the woman was willfully sneaky and disobedient. What more could the FA do. It appeared the woman complied so the FA took her jumpseat (as is required by law). Should the FA stand next to that woman's seat the whole flight.

Well some airlines already band any animals regardless how small they are from the cabin and yes I actually should have informed the f/a again, there is no respect from that kind of people.................

Quoting IAirAllie (Reply 19):
Many air transportation authorities including the US FAA have determined that the infant safety belts are more dangerous to the infant than just being held. Babies bodies are not designed to take the brunt of the impact soley across the pelvis and in the evacuation the device could prove too cumbersome to escape.

Have kids myself I think they should have a "infant" fare (reduced rate) and they should have their own seat................
Go a head and grill me now................, got rear ended by a tractor trailer today and had my kids in the car too.... guess what the kids are fine because they were properly secured in their seat..........

Life is precious and if I can make it safer because I obey the rules....... there is nothing to it.

CX should charge her about 12'500$ for the delay.

Cheers,


User currently offlineIFEMaster From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 21201 times:

Quoting CXCPA (Thread starter):
passenger has already flied a complaint to Cathay. Hope to see how Cathay response such complaint.

Dozy bint. I just don't get people that believe that the rules apply to everyone but themselves.


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 20693 times:

This is really stupid. Safety comes first. Rules are rules.

CX should charge her for the delay

I am sure she is pretty well off since Gucci is an expensive brand.


User currently offlineB707Stu From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 918 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 20588 times:

Silly girl, place it underneath until take off roll and then lift it up if it's so important.

User currently offlineIAirAllie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 20318 times:

Quoting Swissy (Reply 20):
Have kids myself I think they should have a "infant" fare (reduced rate) and they should have their own seat................
Go a head and grill me now................, got rear ended by a tractor trailer today and had my kids in the car too.... guess what the kids are fine because they were properly secured in their seat..........

I completely agree with this one. For the safety of the baby and the sanity of the parent approved carseats are the way to go.


25 CX flyboy : Rules are indeed rules. If you allow one passenger to break them , how about the next? where do you draw the line? Cathay also must be commended for h
26 Spark : Personally it sounds to me like she is just a spoiled rich brat, and CX enforced a regulation, she refused, they asked again, she dug her heels in, an
27 Historic747 : How silly!!!These FAs love blaming anything and everything on safety. It gives them a chance to show their authority. Like somebody above rightly quot
28 Jrosa : I thoroughly disagree! Airline service must be provided according to and respecting safety rules, no matter what you think, safety must come first al
29 Historic747 : It is about using safety as a pretext to vent anger on the customer. Flight Attendants can pretty much use only that in their defense else they would
30 CX flyboy : Perhaps you have never flown with cathay Pacific?...or perhaps any of the top award winning airlines in Asia?
31 Historic747 : Yes I have. CX is a world class airline. That does not mean they do not have a few grumpy FAs.
32 MarkHKG : If everybody knew safety was important, why don't people pay attention to safety briefings? Why was the passenger at the overwing exit during the Man
33 Historic747 : Airbus proved computers have better decision making skills and more reliable than flight engineers. In the 1960s this would have been considered unim
34 Historic747 : I agree completely.I would hate to be on a plane that is delayed due to a fellow passenger. But how about the numerous flights I have been delayed in
35 Post contains links CCA : Quoting Lufthansa747 (Reply 14): but this shoes+handbag stuff on CX is a bit extreme IMHO. Where do you think your shoes will end up after a high spee
36 MarkHKG : I don't see a computer being able to assess an exit for outside debris, smoke, fire or incoming water in the near future. I don't see a computer bein
37 Historic747 : Engineers at Airbus and Boeing do see. Nobody thought of crossing the Atlantic at twice the speed of sound a 100 years ago. This would have sounded i
38 MarkHKG : It's actually fairly remarkable if you think about it. The cockpit has undergone a revolution, particularly with the glass cockpit and fly-by-wire. He
39 Post contains links Xiphias : Move pictures here: http://hk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/vv614vv/my_photos What a dumb brod, it's just a #$%^&@ bag, place is where it is supposed to go,
40 Ua777222 : I would ask her to sign something saying that she won't sue if her and her 'bag' are destroyed in an accident and that she won't sue the airline for h
41 TheSunseeker : the B**ch is lucky I didnt sit next to her! How difficult is it to put a bag away for take off and landing. Just put it under the seat, and take it ou
42 AR385 : A spoiled brat and she got what she deserves. As someone said earlier, she should pay the airline and each passenger for the inconvenience she caused
43 Post contains images Aer Lingus : The F/A's should have asked if she wants an in-flight shopping bag to put the handbag into it and then put it under the seat in front. Some how most
44 Elite : Cathay Pacific is going to throw away her complaint, because they had already wasted an hour on her. She already embarrassed herself by doingrnthat on
45 Superhub : Somewhat true. Some cabin crews try to use safety to "show their power". For example, I have been on a AA flight where I was told to switch off my ce
46 ZRH : What a stupid bitch. She should be banned for all flights.
47 AirCanada014 : You might want to change the title from Expelled to taken off the a/c. You know she can go back flying with CX, CX didn't expelled her otherwise she's
48 Singapore_Air : I am surprised there is no sympathy for the passenger. Imagine her horror at seeing the stained floor while flying Hong Kong's de facto flag carrier.
49 CXCPA : " target=_blank>http://hk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/vv6...hotos I like the tittle of the album I try to translate it to English, but because the title co
50 Starlionblue : Never say never. Robotics are coming, and sooner than you think.
51 Post contains images Swissy : Agree, never say never an remember a computer is only as "smart" as we make them..... Cheers,
52 Access-Air : My Question is why did it take an HOUR for them to kick her little butt of the plane????? Take her off and settle it at the boarding gate.....So EVERY
53 Historic747 : Completely agree and they will be more than a 100 times more efficient, reliable and precise. I think the bigger point is in a world of competition,
54 CX flyboy : Excellent post, SuperHub!! Some passengers just do not get it. Of course they are the customer and they should be treated as such, but only within rea
55 Historic747 : Why do you get so many unreasonable passengers? Why have passengers become so unreasonable? Besides passengers in general why have consumers become s
56 Rdwootty : Of course coming from Hong Kong it was probably a fake Gucci anyway!!
57 IAirAllie : Let me give you a little lesson about crew delays. If a crewmember is even one minute late for check in (which is at least one hour prior to departur
58 Historic747 : So for how long do crew members on SQ, CX and EK work compared to counterparts in North America? You can see crew members on SQ continuously walk up
59 Superhub : Maybe US airlines (especially legacies) have a difficult task keeping customers satisfied. Why? Because they consistantly provide either inconsistant
60 Superhub : Nope. CEOs will tell you that shareholders are their gods. Shareholders want maximum profit. And I own shares of CX. I would rather lose the Gucci gi
61 Superhub : Well, it was on a 767. There were multiple crews. I still saw many people chatting on the phone after the crew member told me to switch it off. The c
62 Historic747 : CX is a great airline. But guess what there are many others. If one goes another will replace. You hold no monopoly. Yes sure. Sounds good and that w
63 Post contains images Superhub : Yes, there are many other airlines around. And yes, CX is very customer-focused. Yes, customers have a lot of powers to choose other airlines. And ye
64 Bennett123 : Personally I want the airlines to apply the rules. An airplane is an aluminium tube with no exits. The last thing that I want is unruly fellow passeng
65 Rikkus67 : wow...this was quite the read! I am on side with everyone who said she deserved to be kicked off the plane. I would notlike to be the recipient of a f
66 Historic747 : If you did that then smart timing in terms of buying. I very well know CX is a profitable company and they are our priority client. The fact though i
67 IAirAllie : That is an entirely different topic. You mentioned crew delays. Now you are talking about quality of service inflight. It's apples and oranges. A que
68 Rikkus67 : wow...this was quite the read! I am on side with everyone who said she deserved to be kicked off the plane. I would notlike to be the recipient of a f
69 AR385 : More than that, and I'm not contradicting you, it's a matter of class, dignity and her upbringing. A classy, dignified lady would understand at once
70 Swissy : Agree 100%, if you take all these stories together and you will find out they are all the "wanna be" ......... pretty sad. Very well spoken AR385, it
71 FL1TPA : Hello all. Good discussion going. I am a F/A with FL and customer non-compliance is a tough issue. Especially in those cases where the customer attemp
72 Post contains images Swissy : Agree 100%, it is nice to see that regardless of nationality, race or belief's we agree on safety in the air. And that is how we get safe from A to B
73 CXCPA : Actually, the demand of flight between Hong Kong and Tokyo is very very high. It is not difficult to get a full loaded plane. In the peak season, the
74 Post contains images Starlionblue : People who play dumb in this way really amaze me. On one memorable Iberia MAD-JFK flight in the mid 90s I ended up on a somewhat worse for wear Tower
75 Naritaflyer : I never place anything under the front of my seat because the floor is usually filty. People puke, drop food and drinks. However, I would not argue wi
76 Levent : The last flight I was on (an A320) we were seated in row 3 and there were two infants in row one (with their parents of course.) The stuff those paren
77 B6sea : I've seen people up in the aisles and going to the bathroom and turning on cell phones while we were around 3,500 feet off the ground and on approach
78 Historic747 : Well said. The only defense they have in hand is 'SAFETY' which is blatantly violated by FAs so as to prove their authority. Unfortunately most peopl
79 Pacific : If the CX crew were so happy to call the cops, that flight wouldn't have been delayed an hour. It should take them 5 minutes to call the cops, anothe
80 Historic747 : True it is for sake of safety. But the open ended law is abused by many crew members to cajole their own ego and to save themselves the wrath of the
81 Post contains images Superhub : As I have said many times again and again. This crew acted on company policy. A request for stowing bags for takeoff is within the limits of what the
82 CXCPA : Right, especially for the mainland China carriers because the mainland Chinese like to spit on the floor. And the curtain make the situation even wor
83 Naritaflyer : It was a new Gucci handbag.
84 CXCPA : So that mean the handbag is not in use?? Then it is better to put it in the plastic bag. If your wife used the handbag immediately after purchase, an
85 Stil : How long was the queue of passengers who wanted to kick her off the plane? Now springs to mind that scene on film Airplane! Oze[Edited 2006-07-28 15:5
86 Swissy : Exactly, why is it so hard to accept the rules?? Lack of respect? Wonder my self for a long time do these people get a sh.. or pi.. attack in a madde
87 IAirAllie : Levant as a frequent passenger and crewmember I'd much rather the babies had all their luggage with them because the alternative is to not having the
88 Historic747 : 99%..from where did that number come up? Given a chance most FAs would love doing nothing apart from some easy safety checks. In any case engineers h
89 IAirAllie : Gee whiz Mr. theory X. Are you always so pessimistic and do you always assume the worst of everyone that they are all lazy and always looking for the
90 Swissy : I absolutely agree with you but I was talking about the people sitting in front of the gate just like me and wait for our turn to board the aircraft.
91 IAirAllie : Um, have you ever seen the lines at these toilets? Oh never mind I just looked at your profile you are Male, big surprise. Female toilet lines in hig
92 Historic747 : Really? My digicam fits into my pocket and I use it to record most take offs and landings. Given the low probabilty of aircraft accidents (and the as
93 Historic747 : NOT ME. That is the impression lagacy carries have succeeded in generating and that is how the financial world looks at them. With extreme pessimism.
94 Javibi : Given a chance most males aged 26-35 working in finance would love doing nothing. j
95 Historic747 : May or may not be. But they do not have a union to protect themselves like most pilots with European carriers do. They are all 'fire at will' employe
96 Javibi : As with every other worker in the world, including FA's. Tough luck. j
97 Post contains images Swissy : You are right, I am married and my wife has MS and quite a weak bladder and it is not easy at all for females in regard of the line up at the pee sta
98 CXCPA : Thx for the explanation. How about glasses?? The glasses we wear on the eyes may throw away and hit somebody when emergency stop. How about I wear my
99 Historic747 : They do not need unions. And those who do will see their demise as is evident in the airline industry. A complete fiasco. Enjoy until then becuase af
100 Post contains images MarkHKG : Interesting point, but some people do need to have glasses during an evacuation. However, during a planned emergency landing, some carriers will inst
101 Historic747 : Apparently seems not wrong either. As mentioned earlier you will find several photgraphs here on A.net taken by flight members while landing and take
102 MarkHKG : I would also point out that "just because a lot of people do it" doesn't make it alright either. Safety is not a democratic issue.
103 Historic747 : Everybody knows safety is not a democratic issue. The point I was referring to is that using a camera onboard might actually not tantamount to be a s
104 Post contains links and images Historic747 : For all those who think using an electronic device such as a camera is a violation of safety regulations....here enjoy this beautiful shot. View Larg
105 Post contains links MarkHKG : While I will not argue with you on it's beauty, the photo has little do with the safety implications of using a camera on board an aircraft. In fact,
106 Post contains links IAirAllie : Anything with an on or off switch is not allowed to be turned on during take off or landing. Submitting proof that someone (even if that someone great
107 Zippyjet : I wonder if this wench has family from New York or Boston. Her churlish boorish snotty behavior would do both US cities proud! No, possibly she is fr
108 Post contains links and images Historic747 : So why do airlines not take action against flight members that indulged in electronic photography despite having proof? I guess half of our flight cr
109 AR385 : I wrote this a while ago, but I thought it applies to this thread so here goes. It is kind of embarrasing because I don't know if I reacted as I shoul
110 EK773 : I have a feeling this may be for your own safety in the event of an evacuation during crash landing you would be running barefoot through burning tor
111 CX flyboy : Historic747 has obviously had some very bad experiences with cabin crew and for some reason has a very bad opinion on them and their motivation for wo
112 Historic747 : Actually never had any bad experiences. And the reason I would attribute to that is I do not have any expectations from cabin crew of most airlines (
113 CX flyboy : Indeed....however I will give the answer that as pilots we are sometimes given when complaining about something and that is that when sat in the cabi
114 Trex8 : why is that anyway? obviously the pilot flying needs to be flying! but what is it intrinsically about snapping pics in the cockpit that some airlines
115 QANTAS077 : gucci handbag and travelling in economy...i'd have thought the seat would've been to dirty for her to sit on also. tough titties for her!
116 Naritaflyer : Few things, in my original message I said I was not defending my wife because she should have put the bag in the overhead bin. Second, It was brand n
117 Historic747 : That is excatly the whole point. Then why are some FAs so rude with passengers using an electronic camera. Please, I am not saying that you are doing
118 CX flyboy : I understand what you are saying, although I have no clue about FAA regulations as they do not apply to my airline so are completely irrevelevant to
119 EK773 : Historic747, are you an only child? It seems like you dont take too kindly of being told what to do, or following instructions which other passengers
120 Swissy : Naritaflyer, My bad, as I was referring to the original post with the "Gucci flutshi", I should have worded more clear........ Cheers,
121 Post contains links CXCPA : http://appledaily.atnext.com/templat...104&subsec_id=12731&art_id=6175657 Now it becomes today's local news. According to the article, that girl onboa
122 Historic747 : So was it a Cathay flight? I am sure it was...CX would rarely let down a customer for such a reason. That is why CX's management is renowned by all o
123 Post contains images Leezyjet : Chances are anyone that has a Gucci bag from HK is carrying a fake anyway, so they really should not worry about it going on the floor !!!.
124 Superhub : Thanks CXCPA. I love the graphics in the article, especially the illustration of the "angry" pilot. The article does not say. But probably some CX in
125 Historic747 : It woule be really interesting to know becasue after all no charges were pressed against her. I like your 'I will not take part in A vs B wars' motto
126 Carfield : Well, according to another local paper, charges have not been dropped yet, and the Civial Aviation Authority in Hong Kong may still pursue charges. Ho
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