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AA Upgrades SJC-AUS To 757  
User currently offlineMikesairways From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 709 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4977 times:
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Finally we'll see a couple of 757's back in SJC from AA!

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User currently offlineGarri767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4923 times:

Damn! you guys have left your buddies up in AMA with these lousy...ERJ145s! LOL ,Great news for AUS  Big grin

User currently offlineMnik101 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4898 times:

God bless The Nerd Bird!  Silly

User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3290 posts, RR: 45
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4862 times:

Could this possibly open the door for other equipment upgrades on routes like AUS-DFW or ORD?

It seems to me that one of the ideas behind AA's operation at Austin was to consolidate AA's mainline fleet to all MD-80s. Now with this upgrade, could it be more likely we see more 757s in here on a regular basis?

This is great news, I'm very excited!

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineMikesairways From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4855 times:
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Didn't at one point when things were really booming AA fly even a 767 on the route?


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User currently offlineH53Epilot From Israel, joined Mar 2004, 177 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4851 times:

How is a 757 an upgrade? It's certainly not a comfort upgrade. Or do you simply mean an aircraft with more seats?

User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3290 posts, RR: 45
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4838 times:

Quoting Mikesairways (Reply 5):
Didn't at one point when things were really booming AA fly even a 767 on the route?

I really don't think so. I flew on it back in...1997 and it was an MD-80. I don't recall it ever being anything other than an MD-80, but I could be wrong. It wold have been, at the very most, a 757. I don't think AUS has had anything larger than a 757 scheduled in here in the last 15 years or so, and those went away about 5 years ago. A long time ago we had DC-10 scheduled service. We've had the occasional 767 or MD-11 sub, but rarely anything more than that. We'll get a very occasional 777 on a diversion from IAH or DFW, but thats very very rare.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3290 posts, RR: 45
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4838 times:

Quoting H53Epilot (Reply 6):
How is a 757 an upgrade? It's certainly not a comfort upgrade. Or do you simply mean an aircraft with more seats?

To each their own; I don't find the 757 any less comfortable than an MD-80. But yes, I did mean from a seating capacity standpoint.

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineGeg2rap From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 851 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4829 times:

looking at the schedule, will one plane run this, or are their other 757 routes into sjc or aus?

User currently offlineRwSEA From Netherlands, joined Jan 2005, 3097 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4820 times:

As an AA passenger, I'd prefer the M80. The 757 is a much less comfortable aircraft (old seats, less legroom), however they do have IFE which will be a bonus.

User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6565 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4806 times:

Wow, an official press release for an equipment upgrade? Unbelieveable!

User currently offlineLonghornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3290 posts, RR: 45
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4780 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 11):
Wow, an official press release for an equipment upgrade? Unbelieveable!

I'm guessing that this is one of the more well-known flights in the business. How many flights do you know that get their own nickname? There may be some, and I'd wager that if something like this were to happen to one of them, we'd know about it. This is probably one of AA's more profitable domestic routes, too, and any upgrade will allow for more people and more cargo, which will probably be important. Somebody more seasoned on this sort of thing can probably explain better than I can what makes a profitable route, but I can only venture that this is one of the important domestic routes for AA, especially because there's no competition (aside from a UA AUS-SFO flight).

Cheers,
Cameron


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32740 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4709 times:

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 6):

I really don't think so. I flew on it back in...1997 and it was an MD-80. I don't recall it ever being anything other than an MD-80, but I could be wrong.

It was a 757 for the very late 90s and early 00s on all three daily flights.



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User currently offlineAIR757200 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1579 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 4693 times:

On a side note, which obviously won't get a PR, DTW will be getting two 757 ORD flights in Sept. and Oct.

User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 4682 times:

Quoting Mikesairways (Thread starter):
Finally we'll see a couple of 757's back in SJC from AA!

AA was flying 757's at SJC even as of last year...don't know what route it was though...


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Quoting RwSEA (Reply 9):
As an AA passenger, I'd prefer the M80.

Me too..and that's what I like at SJC, besides some of the Jungle Jets, basically, the only other majour AA plane out of SJC is the MD-80 (once the SJC-NRT 777 flight ends...)..

[Edited 2006-07-27 22:19:08]


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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 2 days ago) and read 4663 times:

Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 3):
Could this possibly open the door for other equipment upgrades on routes like AUS-DFW or ORD?

I doubt it. I can remember when AA flew MD80s, 757s, and F100s on these routes, and the mix of aircraft types was really hurting their costs, particularly in a market with a big WN presence. AA went all-MD80 on these routes to save money, and given that they are primarily hub feeders, you'll see them add frequencies with MD80s before they add other aircraft types.

For that reason, I'm a bit surprised that they've upgraded the AUS-SJC route. And, I agree that the MD80 is much more comfortable than the 757.

I continually wonder if AA will ever bring the AUS-BOS route back, but that seems unlikely.

[Edited 2006-07-27 22:17:29]


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User currently offlineBnamaxx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4598 times:

I recall being part of the boarding process for a totally full, first of the day DC10 flight from AUS-Mueller to DFW from a gate space that was waaaay too small. Not a pretty sight. If I recall, there were as many as 3 DC10's a day on the route at one time.

User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11564 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4570 times:

Quoting Bnamaxx (Reply 16):
I recall being part of the boarding process for a totally full, first of the day DC10 flight from AUS-Mueller to DFW from a gate space that was waaaay too small. Not a pretty sight. If I recall, there were as many as 3 DC10's a day on the route at one time.

Yep, American really packs 'em in on the AUS-DFW route. I fly this route 15-20 times per year, and I have seen many first-time travelers on the route arrive at the gate area (considerably larger and nicer than at the old Mueller, by the way) and look shocked at how packed these flights go out. AUS-DFW is always a busy route, because AA carries so many people out of AUS to points throughout the U.S. and the world via DFW. American also has an enormous presence in the AUS market, being the second largest carrier after Southwest.


User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4552 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 17):
American also has an enormous presence in the AUS market, being the second largest carrier after Southwest.

I've always been impressed with AA's presence at AUS -- they have a surprisingly loyal FF base there, probably due to the availability of the premium cabin.

Anyone have the hard numbers on how much of a lead WN has over AA on AUS traffic?



"Lose" is not spelled with two o's!!!!
User currently offlineTpac From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4440 times:

Does this really warrant a press release? Equipment upgrades happen all of the time.

User currently offlineTripleP From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4380 times:

Quoting Ssides (Reply 18):
Anyone have the hard numbers on how much of a lead WN has over AA on AUS traffic?

All the stats are here.


User currently offlineRayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8005 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4325 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 17):
American also has an enormous presence in the AUS market, being the second largest carrier after Southwest.

Given that Austin is the state capitol of Texas, small wonder why AA has a large presence there. This is like Sacramento in California, where there are a lot more flights in and out of SMF due to the fact Sacramento is the state capitol.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32740 posts, RR: 72
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4292 times:

Quoting Tpac (Reply 19):
Does this really warrant a press release? Equipment upgrades happen all of the time.

It is one of their "flagship" domestic routes, and highly frequented by business travelers. It is cheap PR. Airlines should do it more often.



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User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11564 posts, RR: 62
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4239 times:

Quoting RayChuang (Reply 21):
This is like Sacramento in California, where there are a lot more flights in and out of SMF due to the fact Sacramento is the state capitol.

The reason AUS gets a lot more capacity than other cities its size really has virtually nothing to do with it being the state capital. Certainly, being the capital of the country's second largest state doesn't hurt, but AUS' huge capacity is tied much more to the city's enormous technology and research industries, driven by huge tech names like IBM, Samsung, and Dell, all of whom employ thousands in the greater Austin area. The 48,000-strong population of the University of Texas also doesn't hurt, and nor does the relative wealth and affluence of a large swath of Austin's population.


User currently offlineBpat777 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 415 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 4197 times:

On a side note, AA will once again use 757 equipment on a few of their flts between LGA and DFW/ORD in the upcoming months.

25 MalpensaSFO : Well it has yet to be seen the Amadeus and Sabre systems still show MD80 equipment on the route.. AN2SEPAUSSJC ** AMADEUS AVAILABILITY - AN ** SJC SAN
26 RayChuang : Then explain why there are so many flights out of SMF on WN, UA, DL, AA and even B6. Because Sacramento is the capitol of the most populous state in
27 Ssides : The more prudent question would be as to why ALB and TLH, the capitals of the third and fourth most populous states, respectively, don't receive more
28 MalpensaSFO : Intercontinental is builidng within the new 53 storey twin towers complex. In addition there is strong talk that the Hyatt Regency, and the Sheraton
29 RayChuang : The reason is simple: Albany is close enough that people can either drive or take the train up there from New York City, and Tallahassee has not much
30 Commavia : Well, since I've never lived in Sacramento, and since I thought we were talking about Austin, not Sacramento, I cannot answer your question or explai
31 Blhp68 : I believe that SMF had more passengers in 05 than MCI. So I am not so sure you can include MCI on that list. Although MCI is really bustling in terms
32 Ssides : Well, you just proved our point -- you were arguing that the primary driver behind SMF and AUS's large aviation markets was their status as state cap
33 Post contains images FXramper : Flights start again the 14 Dec. Just got off the phone with my uncle and he said he remembers back in the good ole days he'd fly the AUS-SJC on a 752
34 Post contains links Mikey711MN : The Austin American-Statesman has picked it up... Airline to add bigger jets on Austin-San Jose route American says it will use Boeing 757s on two of
35 Post contains images BigGSFO : So not all news about AA's operations at SJC are bad!
36 Commavia : True, although if I was a loyal, frequent AA flyer on this route used to comfortable MD80s with 2-3 seating and one of the quietest, most comfortable
37 Post contains images Americanairfan : Wow I feel stupid I didn't find this thread this is great news!! I'm glad to see some AA 757s at AUS and more back at SJC for when I go spotting.
38 MAH4546 : And all those cities are either hubs, vacation hot spots, or significant regional gateways (with no other large airports nearby), whereareas both AUS
39 MalpensaSFO : Last I checked Sacramento was gateway to the Central Valley, which is key to the income to the largest economy within the United States... By over 2
40 Blhp68 : Well not quite, this data was taken from the ACI-NA website for the past year(2005). 41 SACRAMENTO, CALIFORNIA SMF 10,203,066 6.50 42 CALGARY YYC 10,
41 Azul320 : Oh wow a big 757...Come on JetBlue, connect the dots
42 Mnik101 : They use to fly them to JFK when they still operated that flight. That flight dosen't exist anymore.
43 Garri767 : Another reason AUS is so popular is people going to watch UT games. Garri767
44 Jacobin777 : i don't think they were flying SJC-JFK at the time I took my photo...but maybe I'm wrong.......I know by July/August 2005, they weren't flying SJC-JF
45 Tommy767 : Yup EWR-DFW gets a 1x 757 too! I'm stoked!
46 Post contains links LoneStarMike : Speaking of Austin...July 27, 2006Record passenger traffic at Austin-BergstromJune 2006 Passenger & Air Cargo trafficACTIVITY OVERVIEWJune 2006Passeng
47 Azul320 : JETBLUE AUS-SJC 1X DAILY 320 BRING IT ON!
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