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Flying With Air France On Monday -Questions I Have  
User currently offlineMattdavies1988 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 24 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4405 times:

I will be flying with Air France on Monday and the flights are (times in brackets and local time): -

31/07/06 – AF2471 / LHR(06:40)-CDG(09:00) / A321
31/07/06 – AF0012 / CDG(10:15)-JFK(12:10) / 777-200

14/08/06 – AF0011 / JFK(20:45)-CDG(10:00) / 747-400
15/08/06 – AF1570 / CDG(12:00)-LHR(12:15) / A320 (seen it listed as an A318 also)

I have a number of questions: -

This is the first time that we have flown on a connecting flight, the Air France website mentions ‘if you can check in for the whole flight one boarding pass will be issued’ will a LHR-CDG-JFK flight and on the return qualify and do they allow you to choose a seat for both flights?

I have also not used online check-in before, we planned to use it, but seatguru.com says that it cannot be used for flights to the USA, is this the case for some countries (i.e. France-USA) or does it apply to all countries, cause I believed before that it was frequently used by business people and New York has to be one of the premier business locations.

When the flight lands in Paris we have to transfer from CDG 2F to 2C, which seems to be quite a way? Has anyone done this on the forum? I believe that there is an airside shuttle, which takes us to 2C?

Onboard I assume that that 777 will defiantly have AVOD and the 747-400 may depending on the aircraft? Do you know where the AVOD 747-400’s fly? Also is the IFE in dual English/French.

Sorry about all the questions but this is my first flight with a non-British airline and the first connecting flight!

If anyone has any more information on the specific aircraft, please post it.

Some of the questions on online-check-in and connecting flights are things that I have wondered for quite some time  Smile

Thanks a lot on advance I really appreciate any answers

Matt

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User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4387 times:

Quoting Mattdavies1988 (Thread starter):
the Air France website mentions ‘if you can check in for the whole flight one boarding pass will be issued’ will a LHR-CDG-JFK flight and on the return qualify and do they allow you to choose a seat for both flights?

I would be very suprised if LHR-CDG-JFK would not qualify and yes, you can choose a seat for all flights you are checking in for... for the transatlantic flight you should have a seat reservation already anyway?

Quoting Mattdavies1988 (Thread starter):
I have also not used online check-in before, we planned to use it, but seatguru.com says that it cannot be used for flights to the USA

as far as I know this is due to US immigration security regulations... so no, there is no online check-in for AF flights into the US

Quoting Mattdavies1988 (Thread starter):
When the flight lands in Paris we have to transfer from CDG 2F to 2C, which seems to be quite a way? Has anyone done this on the forum? I believe that there is an airside shuttle, which takes us to 2C?

yes, this is not too close (approx. 800m, I guess), but I guess there probably is a bus airside shuttle - depending on if you are gonna arrive in the Schengen area or not. But afaik the UK are not part of the Schengen area so you should be fine (and I recommend taking that bus as you avoid having to go through security and passport control again then). If you happen to arrive in the Schengen area, your options are (a) walking (which I would recommend as it is probably the quickest way), (b) taking the landside shuttle, which departs outside the departure area of Terminal 2F or (c) clearing security and passports in 2F and then taking the airside shuttle bus.

Quoting Mattdavies1988 (Thread starter):
Onboard I assume that that 777 will defiantly have AVOD and the 747-400 may depending on the aircraft? Do you know where the AVOD 747-400’s fly? Also is the IFE in dual English/French.

last time I flew a AF 772 (ATL-CDG in March) AVOD was only introduced in their IFE at about half of their 772s and I had one of those where it hadn't been introduced yet... but in any case you are going to have PTVs (you don't mention which class you are flying, though, but my experiences are limited to eco anyway). For their 744s I can't say too much (haven't flown on one so far), as far as I know there are some which have PTV in eco and some which don't. I doubt any of them has AVOD. Anyway, the IFE is multilingual, however I have some bad experiences with changing the language (once the whole IFE froze at my place, since then I avoid changing languages, I do understand enough French to be able to operate a French IFE...)

As for their A32X, I understand they shift their planes according to demand, so you can get a 318/319/320/321 regardless from what is printed on your ticket... this seems to be more an "educated guess" which plane they are likely to use on that specific day...



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User currently offlineTouchdown777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4349 times:

Quoting Mattdavies1988 (Thread starter):
If anyone has any more information on the specific aircraft, please post it.

Matt,

I had a nice experience with flying an AF 772 on the JFK run. They have a nice meal and IFE selection not to mention that the FA's were very nice and attentive.

Have a great trip, enjoy the T7, and enjoy the US!

T7


User currently offlineCOEXpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 22 hours ago) and read 4290 times:

I did a IAH-CDG on an AF 777. I was a great flight. The crew was very nice and entertainment was better than expected.

BTW. Mattdavies1988, do you speak French by any chance? I do and I guess it seemed to make the drink and food orders flow better.


User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 22 hours ago) and read 4281 times:

Quoting COEXpilot (Reply 3):
Mattdavies1988, do you speak French by any chance? I do and I guess it seemed to make the drink and food orders flow better.

actually, in my experience its not about really speaking French but about trying to do so... I don't speak very much French by any means, but answering the question after what I like to drink with "de jus de tomate e del' eau, sil vous plait" (sp?) instead of "some tomato juice and a water, please" seems to help a lot...  Wink



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User currently offlineCOEXpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 22 hours ago) and read 4268 times:

Quoting Haggis79 (Reply 4):
"de jus de tomate e del' eau, sil vous plait" (sp?) instead of "some tomato juice and a water, please" seems to help a lot...  

Yeah, exactly what I mean.

just a side thought. Some AF FA's are smokin hott. If I ever wander over to Terminal D at IAH when the AF 777 arrives there are usually some really good lookin FA's. Big grin


User currently offlineTouchdown777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 21 hours ago) and read 4250 times:

Quoting COEXpilot (Reply 5):
If I ever wander over to Terminal D at IAH when the AF 777 arrives there are usually some really good lookin FA's.

It usually seems to be that the T7 FAs are the hot ones.  covereyes 


User currently offlineMattdavies1988 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 19 hours ago) and read 4170 times:

Thanks for the Information!

I am flying in Y / Econcomy / Tempo

Just realised that this is not really the first non-british airline I have flown as Ryanair would qualify - but to me as their main base is in London they seem more british than Irish in a way  Smile

It was mentioned that we should have a seat reservation for the long-haul flight? - we booked through lastminute.com (was not last minute though) and do not have a seat number or anything. By a seat reservation do you mean a specific seat number? and if we should have one how do we get one? I hope in some ways it isn't a specific seat because we hoped to get 2x2 seats by windows, as I love flying, but hate it if you cant see outside!

As to speaking French, I speak a little, but speak more German than French, and my German is very limited!

Thanks

Matt


User currently offlineCoyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 11 hours ago) and read 3992 times:

I have flown transatlantic on AF many times with connections at CDG. I love AF onboard service, food, etc, even in economy is good. I've never flown their 777 but the 744s I have been on did not have PTVs. CDG is normally a circus, that is always the negative part of the whole experience...

Enjoy the trip and your visit to 'our' side of the pond.


User currently offlineCOEXpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 11 hours ago) and read 3986 times:

Quoting Mattdavies1988 (Reply 7):

You will be fine. Economy seats is good, but you better hope for some good seatmates on the 777. Its a long ride. The 777 should be 3x3x3. There is good space.

I don't know if you have done internationals before. I assume you fly BA to US or wherever. Just be patient with JFK customs. They can be nasty people sometimes.

Just Sleep or enjoy the exceptional AF entertainment.


User currently offlineMattdavies1988 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 11 hours ago) and read 3969 times:

Thanks for the info!

I'm still a bit confused about the seat reservation, as it has been said that we should have one for the long-haul flights, but not the short-haul? By reservation do you mean a specific seat? im confused  Sad

I hope that we still get a choice of seats and for 4 people we like 2x2 window seats, I have been on 49 commercial flights now, only one was not a window seat and I hated it, seemed really odd not being able to see what was happening as you takeoff and land!

As to the aircraft I know some of the 744's have PTV's so on the return I guess it's 'pot luck'

I have only been to the USA twice and they were both to Florida, one with VS and one with VZ All my other flights have been within Europe and to Iceland, Tenerife and an internal 'hop' in an Islander in Iceland.

The US imigration looks to be a nightmare (last time we visted was 2000) I still cannot believe that online check-in cannot be used for US flights, does this include internal? cause I am sure many US carriers offer it.

Matt


User currently offlineCoyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 10 hours ago) and read 3921 times:

Most (all?) carriers here offer online checkin for domestic flights...

And immigration can be a nightmare or can be a breeze, depending on how many flights arrive at the time you do... and how many 'dodgy' people are in the line ahead of you......


User currently offlineHaggis79 From Germany, joined Jun 2006, 1096 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 10 hours ago) and read 3921 times:

Quoting Mattdavies1988 (Reply 10):
I'm still a bit confused about the seat reservation, as it has been said that we should have one for the long-haul flights, but not the short-haul? By reservation do you mean a specific seat? im confused  

most of the big carriers allow you to make a seat reservation for longhaul flights on booking already - Air France is one of them who does. So if you don't have a seat reservation (yes, for a specific seat) for CDG-JFK yet I suggest you contact Air France with your booking number right away and have them make a seat reservation.

Quoting Mattdavies1988 (Reply 10):
I still cannot believe that online check-in cannot be used for US flights, does this include internal? cause I am sure many US carriers offer i

believe it or not, immigration is the reason. Of course this does not apply to internal US flights, as no immigration is needed there...



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User currently offlineCOEXpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 3894 times:

Quoting Mattdavies1988 (Reply 10):
The US imigration looks to be a nightmare (last time we visted was 2000) I still cannot believe that online check-in cannot be used for US flights, does this include internal? cause I am sure many US carriers offer it.

ALL u.s. carriers have online checkin. At least the ones worth a sh*t do.

You visited before 9/11. Now it will be a nightmare or a breeze, like Coyoteguy said.

It all depends. You are coming from France and your from the UK so you should be fine.

Important-
Keep the right attitude.
Don't tell them anything except what they ask to know.-
Don't stare at your bags.<-- Thats very important

Those are straight from airline training. They stress them all to us pilots for smooth transitions in customs.


User currently offlineCoyoteguy From Mexico, joined Oct 2001, 442 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 9 hours ago) and read 3878 times:

Indeed.... I am a frequent traveler, European, resident in the US, and I can agree with COEXpilot's suggestions. Play it cool, fill your forms out correctly, don't chat with the immigration / customs officers, and don't act suspiciously with your luggage! In general, Europeans are not subjected to a lot of scrutiny.

User currently offlineMattdavies1988 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3770 times:

In the past I have always flown on Scheduled short-haul, who do not pre-assign seats and this is still the case for the short-haul parts of this trip.

However when we have flown long-haul this has always been on charter carriers who do not pre-assign seats, so flying with a scheduled carrier who does pre-assign seats is new for us, and not booking directly with Air France has meant that this was not stressed to us and we were assigned all non-window seats.

However phoning up Air France has meant that we have been able to get 2x2 window seats in almost the last row of the 744 on the return flight (all that was left) and on the way to the USA get the 3 centre seats and one aisle seats, next to 2 blocked seats.

What are blocked seats? (They are in Y) are they for a diplomat or something flying a package or something? And if so what is the chance of those seats being occupied, as if they are now we can move along and get a window seat. Also is it ‘normal’ for there to be blocked seats?

Thanks

Matt


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