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British Airways Stoping Service To Denver?  
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2301 times:

Is this true? Personnally I think its just a bunch of crap! British Airways flight to Denver is ALWAYS full. This flight is very profitable with British Airways, and they love it. When I went on that flight, the flight was full completely that I got a middle seat!

Any help would be greatly appreciated!


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
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User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 2203 times:

Who told you this?

User currently offlineDIA77 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 705 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

Where did you get this from? This flight is always full.

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 3, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2170 times:

Some person from the chat. I hope its not true. I will be SO MAD if BA stops this route! I dought they would, right???????????  


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineSEVEN_FIFTY7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 957 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

One mistake that a lot of people make is assuming that full flights translate into high profitability. That's not necessarily so. It really boils down to pricing and what everyone pays for that flight (as well as profitability from expensive/inexpensive cargo). Sometimes half-loads could earn much more money than full loads. It depends.

If you got a 777 filled with people paying an introductory fare of $180-OW to LHR, that might actually cause the company to lose money. A 40% load factor with people paying, say, $400 would be more profitable, especially if that plane is also carrying expensive cargo.

Full flights do not always mean successful routes.


User currently offlineJasewgtn From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2144 times:

Maybe someone just assumes that because on the 29th October, the 777 is now flying instead of a 744 that the service is being withdrawn?

Just a guess......  

Jase


User currently offlineVadheim From Norway, joined Jul 2000, 623 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2105 times:

This happened with SAS's daily Copenhagen (CPH) - Los Angeles (LAX) flights, which was discontinued in early 90's. High load factors but wrong mix. Too many tourists! Again; High load factors does'nt mean high profitability!

User currently offlineGreggj From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2079 times:

Let's see...
A full 777..(say 300 seats) at $180/pax is around $54,000.
A 40% full 777 (say 120 seats) at $400/pax is around $48,000.

How is that more profitable????


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 8, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2058 times:

According to British Airways, this flight is one of the most profitable flights in North America!


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2057 times:

According to British Airways, this flight is one of the most profitable flights in North America! Besides, I found out that British Airways is staying and as no plans of stopping service to Denver.  


"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineMr K From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2026 times:

As said,
It IS one of the most profitable routes to USA,largely due to lack of competition at the moment (only nonstop flight between Denver and UK).Equipment can vary from month to month,either 744 or 777 depending on season and indeed days of week,Fri,Sat,Sun,Mon,being busiest(I personally have flown out on a Wed.777 and back on a Fri 744).The BA duty manager has told me there have been times when he could have filled a 744 twice over and still turned people away,such has been demand on certain days at certain times of year.However such peaks and troughs are difficult to predict and aircraft switches are not always easy when schedules have been planned months in advance.Denver is still a newish route (2yrs) ,and BA are still monitering the profile as to gain maximum profitability.Take it from the horse's mouth,though,the Denver-London route is there to stay.
Cheers,Denver.


User currently offlineDIA77 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 705 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2012 times:

Mr K

Do you know if BA has plans to increase capacity on the DEN-LGW route with a second flight? Thanks.


User currently offlineSEVEN_FIFTY7 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 957 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1987 times:

Greggj:

"How is that more profitable?":

...Well, given that I also mentioned CARGO, and given that I (obviously) excluded first class pax loads, ....well, let's just say I think you and everyone else got the point.

However, I must say, I think you did succeed in impressing all of us with your sharp arithmetic skills. I know I'm practically tingly all over.

I think you even deserve a cookie.  





User currently offlineMr K From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

DIA77,
Have seen this winter's schedule,and DEN is still planned as one daily flight with a mix of 777 & 744,certainly until end of March.Who knows beyond that though?
Regards Mr K.


User currently offlineIshky15 From United States of America, joined May 2000, 717 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (14 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1967 times:

Why the hell did you post this subject anyway? That would be just like me posting "AA Leaves Argentina!" with no information or rumors or anything! What a waste of time!

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