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Non-Reving From LAX To Asia/Australia  
User currently offlineNygfan84 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 172 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4517 times:

Hi I work for an airline and want to take a couple friends with buddy passes to HKG or SYD from LAX in January. My question is what are the load factors typically on those routes? Would I be able to non-rev 4 people on a flight? I think so, perhaps because there are like 4 or 5 routes a day to each. What day typically has the least amount of passengers usually? Thanks!

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User currently offlineSeamefly From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 317 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4422 times:

Typically, you can only take friends to fly on your own airlines. At NW, we can only accomodate spouse, children and parents for interliners. Check with your own airline for their interline-agreement.

User currently offlineOptionsCLE From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 467 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4383 times:

I can't lend you too much help since it was in July, but on my recent flight on a Sunday from LAX to BNE, there were a fair amount of open seats. I'd say don't expect to sit together and expect the middle of the middle section!

User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6465 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days ago) and read 4348 times:

Quoting Nygfan84 (Thread starter):
Hi I work for an airline and want to take a couple friends with buddy passes to HKG or SYD from LAX in January.

I could be wrong but I don't think any airline allows buddy passes from another airline. If it's your own airline you want to travel on, then you would know the loads better than we would.


User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 2 days ago) and read 4326 times:

Also, the Asian market is Very-Very hard to Non-Rev on. Most all aircraft are running full.


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User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6124 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4274 times:

Every airline is different, I can take friends with me on a number of other airlines in addition to my own. Just depends on the agreements and then the station to station agreements.

NY: HKG may be tough. Loads are useally pretty good, but my friend is a Duty Manager here at LAX, so I'll ask him what CX loads look like. Now to OZ, its possible right now, but their warm season is around the corner. Again it depends on who you are flying on of course and what deals your airline and the other airline provide.

ASLAX



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User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6465 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4262 times:

Quoting AS739X (Reply 5):
Every airline is different, I can take friends with me on a number of other airlines in addition to my own.

I assume you work for AS. What other carriers can you take friends on with a buddy pass? That is a good benefit.


User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25143 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4236 times:

Besides loads, be aware that both nonstop Australia and Hong Kong services from LAX can be weight limited leaving non revs behind even with open seats. Airlines will often fill up any available free weight with cargo.


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User currently offlineNygfan84 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4075 times:

Are my chances better from SFO??? Id rather go from LAX because its closer for me plus they have a lot more non-stop flights.

User currently offlineMCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8671 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4065 times:

Nygfan84,

I assume you work for US. Check their policy. If you do work for US, you could probaly travel on Air New Zealand as they are ember of the Star Alliance. Check with your alirline.

MCOflyer



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User currently offlineNygfan84 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 172 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4008 times:

Thanks I didn't know that non-reving had to only employee deals with Star Alliance carriers, I thought it was more so a general broad agreement between airlines. I am kind of new about this. So I guess I could fly Singapore or Thai as well.

User currently offlineBobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6465 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3964 times:

Quoting Nygfan84 (Reply 10):
Thanks I didn't know that non-reving had to only employee deals with Star Alliance carriers, I thought it was more so a general broad agreement between airlines. I am kind of new about this. So I guess I could fly Singapore or Thai as well.

I suggest you contact the pass bureau of the airline you work and get the correct info about pass travel. I still think you can't use buddy passes on another airline.


User currently offlineUalcsr From United States of America, joined May 2006, 485 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3909 times:

It would help if you told us for which airline you work; maybe someone out here works for the same and can tell you the policy. On UA, we could give buddy passes to friends, and we had a certain number of buddy passes with certain Star airlines, although I'm pretty sure that if you use a Star companion, the employee must travel as well. Also, I think, not sure, that you can take no more than two companions with you if you use UA buddy passes on UA. (I'm furloughed, so the policy may have changed.)

I flew SFO-SYD on UA back in 2000 (in the midst of the pilot slowdown). I had no problem getting on, but I do remember some companions did not get on b/c the flight was weight-restricted. If I recall, Australia flights from the US were often weight-restricted and the loads were not necessarily indicative of whether or not you'd get on. I've heard from friends at UA that Asia flights are very, very full this year. As Bobnwas says, best to check with your airline and ask your co-workers; they'll know best.


User currently offlineSlovacek747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3809 times:

Just flew from LAX-SYD a couple weeks ago and it couldn't hold one more person. I was on the 744ER so it was as full as could be so I'm not sure you would be able to make it to SYD as a non-rev

Slovacek747


User currently offlineLGAtoIND From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3803 times:

Just because a flight goes out full, does not mean non-revs didn't make it on the flight. I have made it non-rev onto flights that have appeared full when the plane left the gate, when in reality there were 15 open seats with 20 non-revs listed, therefore most made it on.

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