Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Thai Airways Going To Be Using A346 On JNB Route  
User currently offlineSA744 From South Africa, joined Nov 2005, 211 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 6718 times:

Hello All

Was just on the Thai airways website and see that they will no longer be flying the 772 but the A346 on the JNB route anybody know why they have changed it.

thanks
SA744

25 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineRJ111 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6685 times:

Well it could just be to meet demand.  boggled 

User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 25
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6670 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD MODERATOR

I will believe it when I actually see a TG plane in JNB....


Rgds

SA7700



When you are doing stuff that nobody has done before, there is no manual – Kevin McCloud (Grand Designs)
User currently offlineZKNBX From New Zealand, joined Jul 2006, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 6621 times:

Don't Thai have B772ER on order?

User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 25
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6582 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD MODERATOR

Quoting ZKNBX (Reply 3):
Don't Thai have B772ER on order?

No they don't have any outstanding Boeing orders. They do, however, have 1x A345, 1x A346 and 6x A380's outstanding.


Rgds

SA7700



When you are doing stuff that nobody has done before, there is no manual – Kevin McCloud (Grand Designs)
User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4504 posts, RR: 71
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6554 times:

As always with TG, we'll only know what it's really looking like once the first flight lands in JNB. Meanwhile, anything is in the cards. Remember that the BKK JNB service was announced twice before (once with MD11 and once with B744) and that it failed to materialize both times.

User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 6541 times:

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 4):

No they don't have any outstanding Boeing orders. They do, however, have 1x A345, 1x A346 and 6x A380's outstanding.


Rgds

SA7700

Not true, TG has 772ER/773ER aircraft on order, as well as the Airbus types.


User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 25
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6472 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD MODERATOR

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 6):
Not true, TG has 772ER/773ER aircraft on order

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm

Unless the orders appear under IFLC or UFO, for which I humbly apologise if that indeed is the case, I don't see any active orders for TG with Boeing.


Rgds

SA7700



When you are doing stuff that nobody has done before, there is no manual – Kevin McCloud (Grand Designs)
User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9821 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 6363 times:

TG has a few 772ER on order, six as mentioned in below press release.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777...amily/news/2005/q1/nr_050126i.html

Deliveries will begin in August this year as per the press release. Unless something has changed since than, TG has the 6 772ER's on order.

A388


User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6242 times:

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 7):
Unless the orders appear under IFLC or UFO, for which I humbly apologise if that indeed is the case, I don't see any active orders for TG with Boeing

First, I made an error - Thai has 772ERs on order and not 773ERs on order, my mistake.

Second, the list you are referring to only lists orders placed by carriers during 2006, Thai placed the order for the 772ERs during 2005. That is why you did not find the Thai order on the list. (I have made the same mistake.)

Yes, it is odd that Thai ordered the A345/A346 and the 772ER during the same period.....and Thais fleet will now include the 734/743/744/772A/772ER/773ER/A300-600(PW & GE)/A333/A345/A346....not the most cohesive fleet, is it?


User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 25
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6226 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD MODERATOR

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 9):
Second, the list you are referring to only lists orders placed by carriers during 2006, Thai placed the order for the 772ERs during 2005. That is why you did not find the Thai order on the list. (I have made the same mistake.)

Thanks for that Dutchjet  Smile


Rgds

SA7700



When you are doing stuff that nobody has done before, there is no manual – Kevin McCloud (Grand Designs)
User currently offlineMotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3205 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 6120 times:

So that makes South East Asia non-stop to/from South Africa available through:

- TG JNB-BKK *
- SQ CPT-JNB-SIN *
- MH CPT-JNB-KUL
- CX JNB-HKG
- SA JNB-HKG *

Spoilt for choice, particularly if you're a Star Alliance member.

Regards
MH



come visit the south pacific
User currently offlineMaosky From Thailand, joined Feb 2006, 3 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5908 times:

TG has 6 772ER on order the first two will be deliveries end of sept or beginning of oct.

The reason that TG will use A346 instead of 772 becourse they have to prove their ETOP capabilities with thai authority


User currently offlineVimanav From India, joined Jul 2003, 1516 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5893 times:

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 9):
Thais fleet will now include the 734/743/744/772A/772ER/773ER/A300-600(PW & GE)/A333/A345/A346

you forgot the 773A Smile

rgds//Vimanav



Sarfaroshi kii tamannaa ab hamaare dil mein hai, Dekhnaa hai zor kitnaa baazu-e-qaatil mein hai
User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3329 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5692 times:

The A346 funding the JNB flights will be funded by the aircraft currently used on the MEL sector.

The new B772ER will be deployed to MEL as of 1 Dec.

1 x B772ER to operate TG981/982 4 times pw.
1 x B772ER to operate the new delinked services which will replace TG993/994 that currently operates on BKK-SYD-MEL-BKK routing.

The new service will operate similar times as TG999/980

BKK 0800 << EURO AND INDIAN CONNECTIONS
MEL 2100

MEL 0045
BKK 0555 < ASIAN CONNECTIONS.


User currently offlineCXA330300 From South Africa, joined May 2004, 1562 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5313 times:

What frequency will the flight be?


The sky is the limit as long as you can stay there
User currently offlineMotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3205 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5210 times:

Quoting CXA330300 (Reply 15):
What frequency will the flight be?

Three weekly flights. Here's the press release:

http://www.thaiair.com/About_Thai/Ne.../Press_Year_2006/press0506_135.htm

Regards
MH



come visit the south pacific
User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5089 times:

Whaaaat!!

267 seats in A346 in TG´s configuration? Why so little?

The a/c can take 350 + !!

Micke//SWE  Confused



Airbus SAS - Love them both
User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3329 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5008 times:

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 17):
267 seats in A346 in TG´s configuration? Why so little?

The a/c can take 350 + !!

60 J class, which I think is absurd.

But I think TG has got it right on the B772ERs.

30 flat bed J, and 262 Y class.

If I were TG, i would reconfig the A346's in the same manner.
get rid of 20-30 J class, and add another 60 Y class, to make it
8 F, 30 J, 260-270 Y class.


User currently offlineOldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3526 posts, RR: 66
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4990 times:

Quoting Solnabo (Reply 17):
Whaaaat!!

267 seats in A346 in TG´s configuration? Why so little?

The a/c can take 350 + !!



Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 18):
60 J class, which I think is absurd.

But I think TG has got it right on the B772ERs.

30 flat bed J, and 262 Y class.

If I were TG, i would reconfig the A346's in the same manner.
get rid of 20-30 J class, and add another 60 Y class, to make it
8 F, 30 J, 260-270 Y class.

The backpackers in Y don't pay as much as the business folks in J.

It's just an TG decision on how they think revenue will be maximized in a given market.



Airplane design is easy, the difficulty is getting them to fly - Barnes Wallis
User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3329 posts, RR: 20
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4971 times:

Quoting OldAeroGuy (Reply 19):
The backpackers in Y don't pay as much as the business folks in J.

It's just an TG decision on how they think revenue will be maximized in a given market.

yeah, I agree, but TG is not really considered a premium carrier, so I think they have over-inflated J class seats.

Thailand as a destination is predominatly leisure, and between Europe and Asia TG competes with numerous premium carriers including SQ, CX, QR and EK.

What i'm saying is that the J class capacity is not really suited to their market profile.


User currently offlineZKNBX From New Zealand, joined Jul 2006, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4898 times:

Quoting SA7700 (Reply 7):
Unless the orders appear under IFLC or UFO, for which I humbly apologise if that indeed is the case, I don't see any active orders for TG with Boeing.

Funny thing that. I checked the other day for the SQ order for B77W AND it also is not listed on the Boeing website. I wasn't aware that SQ B77Ws would be leased. Can anybody confirm details?


User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5333 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 4813 times:

Quoting ZKNBX (Reply 21):

Funny thing that. I checked the other day for the SQ order for B77W AND it also is not listed on the Boeing website. I wasn't aware that SQ B77Ws would be leased. Can anybody confirm details?

I think you should read a little further on.

Quoting Dutchjet (Reply 9):
Second, the list you are referring to only lists orders placed by carriers during 2006, Thai placed the order for the 772ERs during 2005. That is why you did not find the Thai order on the list. (I have made the same mistake.)

As to SQ i doubt that many of the 77W's will be leased will they? Most if not all will be brought outright i'd think.


User currently offlineZKNBX From New Zealand, joined Jul 2006, 464 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4791 times:

NBT thanks 4 the pointer. Couldn't agree more... why would they lease? On a separate, but related note, has OKF been put into revenue service yet?

User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5333 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 4771 times:

Quoting ZKNBX (Reply 23):
OKF been put into revenue service yet?

Yep operated NZ85 AKL-HKG on Tuesday 25th July as its first flight.


User currently offlineLPLAspotter From Portugal, joined Jan 2005, 682 posts, RR: 1
Reply 25, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4726 times:

Could the A346 be used to due ETOPS areas over the Indian Ocean. I don't think they can make an emergency at Diego Garcia. Just curious. I do remember seeing an SQ 310 at MRU when they first started the route. I had dinner with a British Airways captain who was on loan to Air Mauritius to fly the 707 and he even stated that he was surprised to see the 2 engine airplane fly the route to asia. However, nowdays I believe MK flies the 767 to many places in Asia. Just wondering if anybody knows if they have to make any large deviations to their flight plan when flying ETOPS over the Indian Ocian.
LPLAspotter



Nuke the Gay Wales for Christ
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Anyone Going To Be At EWR On 6/28 For SQ22? posted Sat Jun 26 2004 19:15:53 by COEWRNJ
Anybody Going To Be In MAD On 3/6/04? posted Thu Jan 22 2004 19:57:30 by 767-332ER
Anyone Going To Be At TUS On Thursday? posted Wed Oct 29 2003 07:03:45 by COEWRNJ
Anyone Going To Be In ATL On 2/15 posted Thu Jan 16 2003 03:44:43 by BR715-A1-30
World Airways Is Going To Be Hiring FA's posted Mon Aug 1 2005 01:51:53 by Jetjack74
New Thai Airways Service To JNB... posted Fri May 27 2005 16:45:36 by B742
Is YVR-DEL Going To Be The Longest Route? posted Mon Sep 24 2001 05:12:45 by Crank
Who Is N527AD (B733) Going To Be Deliverd To? posted Thu Oct 26 2006 19:16:14 by Tomascubero
When Is Qatar Airways Going To Join Star Alliance? posted Sun Oct 22 2006 22:55:14 by Gilesdavies
SJD; Is Cabo Going To Be Like CUN Last Year? posted Sat Sep 2 2006 00:52:33 by SLCUT2777