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Small Plane Down In St. Louis Area, 5 Dead  
User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4512 times:

No story on it yet, but it being scrolled on the TV here on the local news of this TV station.

http://www.fox2ktvi.com/

Nothing on the crash as of yet. Evidently happened around 14:00 local time.

Little tid bit on an AA757 emergency landing in STL as well. Try to find the error on that one.  

ANother link from a locoal station.

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=101117

[Edited 2006-07-29 23:37:22]

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User currently offlineZKSUJ From New Zealand, joined May 2004, 7110 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4382 times:

That sucks. many people often don't care about small aircraft accidents. Condolences to all those affected

User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4351 times:

Am I going crazy or does that look like a Twin Otter?? Much skydiving in the St. Louis area?

User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4340 times:

Compared to that fire engine it doesn't look like a light twin.

User currently offlineSJUboeingGirl From Puerto Rico, joined Nov 2004, 274 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4301 times:

so sad!! what type of airplane was it ?


If it's not Boeing, I ain't Going!
User currently offlineCsturdiv From Australia, joined Aug 2005, 1515 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4289 times:

The info that I read was that it was a plane used for skydiving.


An American expat from the ORD area living and working in Australia
User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1982 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4224 times:

If that was a Twin Otter as the tail section looks vaguely like, it could be N181CS as it's the only Missouri registered Twin Otter.
No flights listed into/out of UUV (Sullivan Regional Airport) on Red1's site other than a Ce210.



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1982 posts, RR: 23
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4200 times:

Update...

On the Houston Chronicle site, they have the aircraft listed as a Twin Otter indeed. Checking the Skydive Quantum Leap dot com website, under equipment, it shows a photo of N203E which color wise matches the plane in the crash photo. N203E had been based at DeLand, FL for quite a while as I remember photographing it there back in 1995!

RIP
JSD



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4192 times:

http://www.skydivequantumleap.com/equipment.htm

User currently offlineBHMBAGLOCK From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 2698 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 4001 times:

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 6):
If that was a Twin Otter as the tail section looks vaguely like, it could be N181CS as it's the only Missouri registered Twin Otter.

Not very relevant, most skydiving operations operating Twotters and CASAs lease them from one of several companies based in AZ, CA, NY, FL, and NC. The demand is very seasonal and this keeps them from making payments on the a/c during slow summers for the deep south or slow winters for the north.

Any word on the condition of survivors? Typical load for a Twotter is 20-22 jumpers so I'm assuming that most survived. Scratch that, news report I just found shows that a/c was taking off with only 8 on board, fatality count is now at 6 and one of the two remaining survivors is critical. Very sad.

People often joke about "Why would you jump out of a perfectly good airplane" without realizing that the aircraft takeoff is about as dangereous as the jump.

The Twotter is very reliable and easy to fly under normal conditions but can be quite a bear in an engine out situation, particularly if it occurs immediately following takeoff. The news report indicated that there was some form of problem with an engine visible to those on the ground - not very specific. This a/c should be able to easily climb with only 8 on board although it is possible that the a/c was in town only for the weekend and crashed on takeoff for a ferry flight and could have been loaded down with gear, fuel, etc.

The only other reason I can think of for the a/c to take off with so few on board would be if it was a team training flight as Quantum Leap does a fair amount of this type of business and sometimes the teams will pay extra to take the a/c when there's not a full load just to keep their training going.

My condolences to the families and friends. I know what they are going through as I've lost several friends in plane crashes and have been fortunate enough to survive one personally as well.

Sometimes it's said in jest, but at other times it's too painfully true:

Blue Skies

Black Death

 Sad



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