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NetJet Bechjets (Hawker 400XP) - Since When?!  
User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3268 times:

Obviously a new aircraft type for them but this is the first time I have seen this. Anyone know how long they have been operating the type? I did a search and N145QS is indeed registered to NetJets. Hmmm...  Confused


Timestamp 30002459
Ident/FlightID EJA145
Status FILED
Facility KZAU
Equipment Prefix
Type BE40 (Beech/Raytheon Beechjet 400/Hawker)
Equipment Code /L (/G with Reduced Vertical Separation Minimum)
ProposedDepTime 09:30 PM CDT (0230Z)
ActualDeptTime N/A
ETA 11:48 PM EDT (0348Z)
ActualArrTime N/A (Z)
Dept (MDW) CHICAGO MIDWAY INTL
Dest (TVC) CHERRY CAPITAL
Route of Flight MDW..PETTY..TVC..TVC/0036
Speed 0402
Alt 21,000


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User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3259 times:

They currently operate a handful of these aircraft. They serve a major market as they have a huge cabin but not the gulfstream range. They have had these aircraft for close to 3-4 years now.

Thanks,

Matt



"It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark."
User currently offlineA340Spotter From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1981 posts, RR: 23
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3243 times:

Matt,

Don't think they are that old, but 1-2 years is more like it. N102QS I believe is their earliest frame, cn RK-380, with N106QS, cn RK-381, right behind. N105QS was reg'd back in Nov. 2005. N116QS, cn RK-385, was reg'd in 6/05.

Jeffrey



"Irregardless, it's a Cat III airplane, we don't need an alternate!"
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 3226 times:

Quoting A340Spotter (Reply 2):
Don't think they are that old, but 1-2 years is more like it.

Acording to the NetJets web site... orders placed in 2003, aircraft in worldwide fleet in 2005.

Quoting UA777222 (Reply 1):
They serve a major market as they have a huge cabin but not the gulfstream range.

A huge cabin...???? LOL...!! It's the smallest plane in the NetJets fleet....

Raytheon 400XP
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Gulfstream 450
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[Edited 2006-07-30 04:03:09]


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User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3215 times:

Quoting UA777222 (Reply 1):
They serve a major market as they have a huge cabin but not the gulfstream range.

Eh? Huge?

But as the other posters have said, they seem to have a few of them... we get them thoughout the day at TEB, but nowhere near as many as their other types... The only thing more rare than their beechjets seems to be their King-Air 200 (200QS), it's the only one I've ever seen them operate...


User currently offlineWestIndian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1024 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3194 times:

Quoting UA777222 (Reply 1):
They currently operate a handful of these aircraft. They serve a major market as they have a huge cabin but not the gulfstream range. They have had these aircraft for close to 3-4 years now.



Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3):
A huge cabin...???? LOL...!! It's the smallest plane in the NetJets fleet....



Quoting Corey07850 (Reply 4):
Eh? Huge?

You guys are correct; but is it possible that he was thinking of the Horizon instead of the 400XP?


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Neil



God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground
User currently offlineCorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3192 times:

Quoting WestIndian425 (Reply 5):

You guys are correct; but is it possible that he was thinking of the Horizon instead of the 400XP?

Well If anything I would guess the Hawker 1000 (H25C) as EJA actually have this type... They don't have any of the Horizons (Hawker 8000?) yet.


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3151 times:

Quoting EMBQA (Reply 3):
A huge cabin...???? LOL...!! It's the smallest plane in the NetJets fleet....

Thanks for plugging my photo.  Wink Netjets operates the Citation 560. The Citation 560 cabin is smaller. I would much rather have Beechjet/Diamond over a Citation.

Quoting UA777222 (Reply 1):
They have had these aircraft for close to 3-4 years now.

3-4 years is a BIG exageration. I think of myself as a bizjet enthusiast and I would have definitely noticed this. 1 year seems more like it.


User currently offlineH53Epilot From Israel, joined Mar 2004, 177 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3132 times:

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 7):
I would much rather have Beechjet/Diamond over a Citation.

http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2717593

http://p068.ezboard.com/frtapilotsfr....showPrevMessage?topicID=941.topic

Hope you don't mind dual engine flameouts. 3 times in 2 years-ouch. One landed with NEITHER engine operating!
Last one a month ago. Yikes.


User currently offlineMaiznblu_757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5112 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3125 times:

Quoting H53Epilot (Reply 8):
Hope you don't mind dual engine flameouts. 3 times in 2 years-ouch. One landed with NEITHER engine operating!
Last one a month ago. Yikes.

Have you heard...
The AV-8B Harriers are still the most unsafe military aircraft, statistically. I would take my chances.  

Thanks for the stats.

[Edited 2006-07-30 07:33:43]

User currently offlineH53Epilot From Israel, joined Mar 2004, 177 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 3125 times:

Quoting Maiznblu_757 (Reply 9):
Harriers are still the most unsafe military aircraft, statistically. I would take my chances.

It's always nice to have an ejection seat. LOL


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