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User currently offlineShanderawx From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 136 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4088 times:
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The current issue of CITE, a magazine produced by the Rice architecture school has a fabulous article on IAH. and discusses how two factors changed the plans for the airport: the development of the hub system, and the need for fewer security posts. The future was planned but the future was nothing like what was planned when the old terminals A and B were built. Each of these old terminals required 4 security points. Apprently Houston's airport authority is planning to destroy everything except terminals D and E and set up parallel terminals akin to Denver or Atlanta (or Cincinnati), and have two check-in terminals, on each end, one for domestic, the other for interntional flights. It is very humbling to read this article and realize how our attempts at understanding the future are so futile. I could not help but wonder how the current plans do not take into account future factors about which we know next to nothing.
The new terminal E, with its international arrival center, by the way, is beautiful, spacious, and easy to use.

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User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 4083 times:

I find tearing down Terminal C at IAH a bit hard to believe, especially with the makeover that is going on the inside.

Where can this article be seen online?



You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineShanderawx From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4068 times:
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Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 1):
?



Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 1):
I find tearing down Terminal C at IAH a bit hard to believe, especially with the makeover that is going on the inside.

Where can this article be seen online

It is available at a few newstands in Houston in the SW area such as at Brazos Book Store, and online can be purchased. There is no on-line copy. Terminal C will be around quite a while, this discussion was about long-term plans.


User currently offlineRktsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4045 times:

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 1):
I find tearing down Terminal C at IAH a bit hard to believe, especially with the makeover that is going on the inside.

It's happening. A B & C will be replaced with FIVE ATL style banks of terminals. It looks like there will also be more terminals to the EAST of D/E. Billions are planning to be spent.

http://web.houstonairportsystem.org/iahmasterplan/frame.htm


User currently offlineGarri767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4010 times:

YAY! ive been waiting for the B terminal at IAH to be torn down (the little CO ex terminal, with no a/c, no phones, no food, no bathrooms , no t.v ) i went there once and man i wont be going there again. Big grin great news .



Garri767


User currently offlineEWRCabincrew From United States of America, joined May 2006, 5527 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 3815 times:

What can I say? Who knew?

Looks like the IAH Marriott is history too. Welcome to Atla, er, Houston.



You can't cure stupid
User currently offlineIahflyr From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3802 times:

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 5):
What can I say? Who knew?

The Houston Airport City Planners and review boards new I would think! I heard of this possiblity around 6 months ago as well as other runways in the master plan for the airport. As was said in a previous post, try looking at the HAS site.



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User currently offlineDeltaFFinDFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1447 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3762 times:

What I don't understand is why there is a fascination with ONE security checkpoint. I hate ATL, DEN and CVG because during peak times, you have to stand in long, long lines. It's a nightmare at IAH now to go through security since both C and E terminals use the same checkpoint. I love the fact that each terminal at DFW has multiple security checkpoints.

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7711 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3758 times:

never been in A.

E is decent, C is okay, D is dumpy, and B is an absolute nightmare.

I won't shed a tear to see B go, that place ranks up there as one of the worst terminals in any airport in the United States!


User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3748 times:

[quote=DeltaFFinDFW,reply=7] both C and E terminals use the same checkpoint[/quote

What? When was the last time you flew out of IAH in either of those terminals. Terminal E has an entirely different location for security, in fact they actually have 3 different spots, the main departure and ticketing area, the tiny checkpoint near the Terminal C parking garage and then there is Terminal C's checkpoint in the ticket lobby of "C".

I will agree a single point is horrid, but even DEN has ways to get around that single point if you are flying from I think Terminal A, (the CO terminal and who else may be in there as wel), walk across the bridge over the ramp taxilane and bingo, there you are another checkpoint.



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User currently offlineCOEXpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3733 times:

I heard this a couple weeks ago. If this is what they want then so be it. They better put our RJ's up somewhere good. I like that terminal, although the trains can get annoying, and the elevators, and that its a shitty terminal. I love E and D so they better make the new ones like them. Open and spacious.

Quoting EWRCabincrew (Reply 5):
IAH Marriott

I love that hotel. Dammit. That means I gotta go the Quality Inn Airport now. Ahh whatever that place is great for just a night and cheap.  Smile


User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3717 times:

Quoting COEXpilot (Reply 10):
I love that hotel. Dammit. That means I gotta go the Quality Inn Airport now. Ahh whatever that place is great for just a night and cheap.

Ahhhhh come on Jetlincoln driver, you think they would not have a first class hotel on the airport property connected to a people mover before ripping the ole Marriott down?? But it is a great spot after flying allllllll day/night to be able to grab a room and not have to worry about the drive home after a few adult bevs!  Smile



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User currently offlineN353SK From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 829 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3717 times:

Quoting DeltaFFinDFW (Reply 7):
What I don't understand is why there is a fascination with ONE security checkpoint. I hate ATL, DEN and CVG because during peak times, you have to stand in long, long lines. It's a nightmare at IAH now to go through security since both C and E terminals use the same checkpoint. I love the fact that each terminal at DFW has multiple security checkpoints.

If there are the same amount of screeners either way, who really cares if it's one big line or six smaller ones?



I for one won't mind B disappearing.


User currently offlineDeltaFFinDFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1447 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3694 times:

Quoting N353SK (Reply 12):
If there are the same amount of screeners either way, who really cares if it's one big line or six smaller ones?

Because it's usually not the same. Again, look at DFW. In Terminal E, there are 10-12 security checkpoints open during peak hours. Multiply that by 5 terminals. Do you really think the TSA would have 50-60 checkpoints at the airport if we had one entrance?


User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5202 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3671 times:

Quoting DeltaFFinDFW (Reply 7):
It's a nightmare at IAH now to go through security since both C and E terminals use the same checkpoint. I love the fact that each terminal at DFW has multiple security checkpoints.

When I fly CO I usually checkin at B and just go on over via TerminaLink--the line is long at times at the security at B but it moves quickly--much quicker than C.



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User currently offlineGarri767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3624 times:

Quoting N353SK (Reply 12):

I for one won't mind B disappearing



Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 8):
B is an absolute nightmare.

I won't shed a tear to see B go



Quoting Garri767 (Reply 4):
B terminal at IAH to be torn down (the little CO ex terminal, with no a/c, no phones, no food, no bathrooms , no t.v )




Good to know im not alone on this  Silly


User currently offlinePhatfarmlines From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 3607 times:

Quoting Rktsci (Reply 3):
It's happening. A B & C will be replaced with FIVE ATL style banks of terminals. It looks like there will also be more terminals to the EAST of D/E. Billions are planning to be spent.

So if Terminal A will be rebuilt, then why were the new concourses that replaced the old banjos built?


User currently offlineCOEXpilot From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3414 times:

Quoting Garri767 (Reply 15):
Quoting N353SK (Reply 12):
I for one won't mind B disappearing


Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 8): B is an absolute nightmare.

I won't shed a tear to see B go


Quoting Garri767 (Reply 4):B terminal at IAH to be torn down (the little CO ex terminal, with no a/c, no phones, no food, no bathrooms , no t.v )



Good to know im not alone on this  

Ohhh.. You are NOT alone. I have yet to find a fellow COEX employee who enjoys B.


User currently offlineType-Rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3381 times:

Quoting Garri767 (Reply 4):
AY! ive been waiting for the B terminal at IAH to be torn down (the little CO ex terminal, with no a/c, no phones, no food, no bathrooms , no t.v ) i went there once and man i wont be going there again.

Isn't B the second terminal of the original airport that was built back in 69? It's a carbon copy of A. What happened to all of the above? It originally had them, didn't it?


User currently offlineGarri767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3363 times:

when i flew IAH-AMA (May 14th , 2006) I had to to go to the B terminal. it had seats. that was it. No tv , no restaurants, no phones, no restrooms, NOTHING to keep you occupied . and there rarely is a seat available in that place. plus , you have to take a long bus ride to your plane. its a real piece of junk imho.

User currently offlineKAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1959 posts, RR: 32
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

Oh come on shannon, we have plenty of restaurants in terminal B....just none that I would want to eat at  Smile

Chilis, McDonald's, Harlon's BBQ, Shirley's Donuts, Panchitos Mexican, and the Grove Ice Cream.

You must've stayed in the dungeon known as gate B84. I'm sure it will be refurbished eventually, but it's pretty far down on the list of priorities. After all, Express is just the red-headed stepchild of CO. They don't need a real terminal  Smile


User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3017 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3345 times:

Quoting Garri767 (Reply 19):
it had seats. that was it. No tv , no restaurants, no phones, no restrooms, NOTHING to keep you occupied

Is it the job of the airport to entertain you? I would think with all the portable devices people have today, that wouldn't be necessary. I personally would check my email on my BlackBerry or surf the web on my phone. I guess people just have to be entertained every minute these days.

Quoting KurtCobain:
With the lights out its less dangerous
Here we are now
Entertain us
I feel stupid and contagious
Here we are now
Entertain us



Firings, if well done, are good for employee morale.
User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 4013 posts, RR: 26
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3345 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 8):
I won't shed a tear to see B go, that place ranks up there as one of the worst terminals in any airport in the United States!

I don't know, I suppose I will miss those ol' Banjo gates in some ways. I am little older than some of you so I recall fondly many of trips on Braniff through 'B' in the 70s while visiting relatives in Houston from MSP (check out the pic of me in my profile from the long closed observation deck ontop of the banjo itself). But I digress, as a frequent COEX user I do agree with the consensus that these gates have outlived their usefulness and have no place at a modern hub.


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User currently offlineGarri767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3318 times:

Quoting KAUSpilot (Reply 20):
You must've stayed in the dungeon known as gate B84

i think i did, arent the gates numbered 84A , 84B , 84C etc.?.


User currently offlineKAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1959 posts, RR: 32
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 3280 times:

Yeah, it goes from B84A to B84E. Those are the only gates that will include a bus ride.

Those are the hardstands....COEX has 15 hardstand positions and about 30 gates w/jetways in terminal B.


25 Post contains images Lincoln : I've never been in B at IAH, but from what you say besides jetways...is there anything? Do they make you sit on the floor, or are there at least card
26 Shanderawx : What is more important? Spending billions to homogenize the airport for efficiency? Or keeping a few extra employed security agents and a facility wit
27 Drerx7 : Terminal B is lackluster but not as bad as most of these threads imply--at the center of the terminal where you check-in there are plenty of shopping
28 Garri767 : first off, its the dungeon of terminal B, you go down the escelator to where a lot of the CO EX flights are. there are not jetways...there are seats
29 OzarkD9S : Nothing wrong with character...or more people employed either.
30 777gk : What exactly is Jetlincoln? Not something I have heard of, and I've been with the company since the inception of Continental Express. Jetlink (their
31 Boeing7E7 : It's a hub. The vast majority of traffic is connecting. This is exactly the type of layout you use for a hub. You simply don't need multiple segregat
32 PSU.DTW.SCE : Dude, B is a dump, whether you like it or not. I'm not looking to be entertained, but I am looking for some sort of reasonable space to wait for my fl
33 Yellowtail : Not if you are a) standing in line at immigration for 3 hours ..which I have done TWICE...while the "assisters" let other jump in front of you who ar
34 Post contains images IAHcsr : The 'dungeon', as Garri calls it,are Gates B84 A-D. This is a busing area for up to 12 (perhaps more) hardstand ERJ departures at any given time. I'm
35 IAHFLYR : It is something some use in the ATC world for the callsign, some of the sharp pilots enjoy it!
36 Post contains images MarkTpa : As a pilot for CoEx based at IAH, I can agree the "pod" area's of terminal B are a dump, plain and simple; however the main Lobby has been "updated" a
37 Jhooper : Isn't "A" basically brand new?
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