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AI 772s On North American Routes?  
User currently offlineOrdryan28 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 988 posts, RR: 16
Posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3782 times:

Hello, everyone.

Just out of curiosity, does anyone know if AI plans on using any of their three 772ER's on North American routes any time soon? I know they have some 773ER's and 772LR's entering their fleet soon, but will they ever utilize any of their existing 772ER's before they get their ordered triple sevens? I know their route has been mostly Europe and YYZ, but any possibility of AI replacing their 744's with 772ER's on US routes?

any info is appreciated...

-Ryan


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User currently offline9V-SPJ From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3717 times:

They use them on flights to LAX

9V-SPJ


User currently offlineOrdryan28 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 988 posts, RR: 16
Reply 2, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 3716 times:

Quoting 9V-SPJ (Reply 1):
They use them on flights to LAX

Those stopped a while ago, I thought.



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User currently offlineTRVYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2004, 1370 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3668 times:

Quoting Ordryan28 (Thread starter):
does anyone know if AI plans on using any of their three 772ER's on North American routes



Quoting Ordryan28 (Thread starter):
I know their route has been mostly Europe and YYZ,

FYI YYZ is in North America.


User currently offlineOrdryan28 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 988 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3656 times:

Quoting TRVYYZ (Reply 3):

FYI YYZ is in North America.

yeah, sorry for the mis-wording, I meant anymore North American routes...

-Ryan



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User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2889 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3478 times:

As of now there is no such intention as they are totally occupied in what they do.

2x 777s DEL-ATQ-BHX-YYZ 6x
1x 777 BOM-LHR 5x
BOM-AMD-LHR 2x [Mostly in rotation with the 744]
1x 777 DEL-DAC-CCU-LHR 4x



Karan


User currently offlineORDTerminal1 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 3354 times:

Keep them out of ORD! we can't afford to lose any more 747s.


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User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 3300 times:

Quoting ORDTerminal1 (Reply 6):
Keep them out of ORD! we can't afford to lose any more 747s.

We'll gladly take an Air India 777-200 at JFK!



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User currently offlineLentini2001 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 192 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3290 times:

How often are AI having technical issues with their 777's? I can only speak for the ones on the BHX route, but I cannot remember a time when either of the flights have ever landed on time.

They are always delayed for some reasons.

Think they are being over worked.

Am I correct in thinking they are ex UA 777's?


User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3290 times:

Quoting ORDTerminal1 (Reply 6):
Keep them out of ORD! we can't afford to lose any more 747s.



Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 7):
We'll gladly take an Air India 777-200 at JFK!

Sadly, both ORD and JFK will probably see AI 777's only, say 5 - 7 years down the line, when AI becomes an all 777/787 airline....the daily AI 747 to JFK has been in place since the late 1970's.... sigh 


User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 10, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3240 times:

Quoting ORDTerminal1 (Reply 6):
Keep them out of ORD! we can't afford to lose any more 747s.

I agree.. checkmark 




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User currently offlineMikephotos From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 2923 posts, RR: 54
Reply 11, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3174 times:

Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (Reply 7):
We'll gladly take an Air India 777-200 at JFK!

Would be nice since I didn't really get great daytime shots of the 777 at JFK.

Mike


User currently offlineOrdryan28 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 988 posts, RR: 16
Reply 12, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3137 times:

Quoting ORDTerminal1 (Reply 6):
Keep them out of ORD! we can't afford to lose any more 747s.

agreed and disagreed. we are losing too many 747's, but, when I think about it, the 772 of AI would be a great treat.

-Ryan



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User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2889 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3117 times:

Quoting Gr8Circle (Reply 9):
both ORD and JFK will probably see AI 777's only, say 5 - 7 years down the line, when AI becomes an all 777/787 airline....the daily AI 747 to JFK has been in place since the late 1970's...

Try 10 yrs down the line mate [minimum],, The youngest 744 in AIs fleet was deliverd in mid-1996, and once upgraded these can be well used atleast till 2016.
Plus with an India non-stop to both ORD and JFK, , we will get to see the 744 and 772LR both at JFK/EWR and ORD.

BTW for those in LAX, the first 777-300ER is expected to do the BOM-FRA-LAX runs 3x weekly by early next year.[heard it, dont flame me if it does not happen]

Karan


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2162 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3096 times:

What is the configuration of AI's 777-200ers?

As I mentioned in another post, I think I heard that high-density doesn't work well long-haul with 777-200ers because of payload issues.

Could AI operate JFK-BOM nonstop with high density layout?


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3090 times:

Will they ever refurbish their 744s? They may only be 10 years old, but they look like they've been flying since the days of the Connie.

User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2889 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 3037 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 15):
Will they ever refurbish their 744s? They may only be 10 years old, but they look like they've been flying since the days of the Connie.

Jay they were supposed to refurbish them starting this year, but since there is shortage of WBs i think they will start sending the 744s for refurbishment once the 77Ws come online.
AIs 744 fleet is 10 to 15 years old with the first one being delivered in 1991

One A310 aircraft "KOFI" has undergone refurbishment and its interiors are a blessing as compared to the other "rust buckets".

Quoting AF022 (Reply 14):
As I mentioned in another post, I think I heard that high-density doesn't work well long-haul with 777-200ers because of payload issues.

They retain the UA config, [no idea what that is] but since UA used P&W powered engines, which are the least powerful of the 772 engine, it would have severe payload restrictions on an India-US non-stop route.

Karan


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 3018 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 16):
AIs 744 fleet is 10 to 15 years old with the first one being delivered in 1991

Actually, I believe its first 744 came on board in 1993. It was Konarak, I think, cuz I was on it in the first week of its service, and from what I remember, even back then it looked fuddy duddy.


User currently offlineUnited_Fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2987 times:

AI is all 744 in LAX .

filler.....



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User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2975 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 16):
One A310 aircraft "KOFI" has undergone refurbishment and its interiors are a blessing as compared to the other "rust buckets".

Do tell. What does it look like? Do the overhead IFE monitors work now, or do the aunties and uncles still have to hit it from time to time to make it work?


User currently offlineKaran69 From India, joined Oct 2004, 2889 posts, RR: 17
Reply 20, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2847 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 19):
Do tell. What does it look like? Do the overhead IFE monitors work now, or do the aunties and uncles still have to hit it from time to time to make it work?

One of my cabin crew friends at AI showed me the pics he took of it from his cell phone camera, all i can say is that the seat coverings were very pleasing to the eye and a welcome change to the tattered product we have known.

The interiors were very neat and clean.and the galleys even better

No idea about the monitor though but it has been replaced, but is still the wall mounted IFE and not drop down plasma screens.

Hope that helps.

Karan


User currently offlineJaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2799 times:

Quoting Karan69 (Reply 20):
One of my cabin crew friends at AI showed me the pics he took of it from his cell phone camera, all i can say is that the seat coverings were very pleasing to the eye and a welcome change to the tattered product we have known.

Still that ghastly light blue upholstery they've standardized on their fleet?


User currently offlineGr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (8 years 1 month 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2706 times:

Quoting Jaysit (Reply 17):
Actually, I believe its first 744 came on board in 1993. It was Konarak, I think, cuz I was on it in the first week of its service, and from what I remember, even back then it looked fuddy duddy.

Now that's not fair at all....AI's first 744 joined the fleet in Oct or Nov of 1993 and the last of the 6 owned 744's came in 1998 (not too sure of this)....my first flight on an AI 744 was in 1996 and I found them to be in very good condition at that time....


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