Eajpecrca From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 38 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 5510 times:
I'm new to a.net so this question may have been discussed before.
I was on a US flight SFO-PHL, seated in first class. About half-way through the flight the door to the flight deck was opened and the attendant entered with trays of food. The door remained open for 3-4 minutes while the pilot/copilot stood and chatted with her. Then the door was closed. It occurred to me that anyone crazy/crazed could have easily jumped up and 'invaded' the cockpit.
Question: in this post 9/11 world isn't that door supposed to be shut and locked during the entire flight?
DeltaFFinDFW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5452 times:
I have seen this MANY times on NW flights. I have been surprised that there is not a second flight attendent to act as a lookout. On all these flights, the FA handed the meals to the flight crew and kept on chatting for a couple of minutes. Also, I have noticed the flight crew leaving the deck to go to the bathroom, and again standing around chatting with the FA with the door opened. I haven't seen this very much on CO, DL or AA, but I have seen it on the last five flights I've flown from DFW to either MSP or DTW.
DTManiac From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 689 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5431 times:
From my experience a flight attendant normally blocks the cockpit door when one of the pilots comes out, for example to go to the restroom. At least I witnessed that behaviour on several flights on American carriers. Furthermore, the door is normally closed immediately as soon as the pilot went out or in the cockpit.
Evan767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 2957 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5391 times:
Yeah it happens all the time on DL. On transcon flights they block off the aisle with a cart and the flight attendant serves them the food. There is also a second flight attendant on lookout to make sure there are no terrorists. If there is no flight attendant on lookout, I still wouldn't worry as air marshalls are sure to be on a transcon flight.
The proper term is "on final" not "on finals" bud...
Gr8Circle From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 3164 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5174 times:
We hear about all these requirements and practices on American carriers....what do the foreign airlines like those from Europe or Asia do, in the post 9/11 era, regarding opening of the cockpit door inflight..?
Gokmengs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1148 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5126 times:
I fly DL across the pond very often in the front and they have a standart procedure everytime the pilot leaves the cockpit for Lav or when they need to take rests or when they have food brought in. As soon as the captain calls the F/A especially for lav visits the F/A blocks the galley with the cart and waits there facing the Bizelite cabin when the pilots open the door etc. Obviously the other entry to the galley is not protected during this time but since the FA is facing the rather small Bizelelite cabin she could see if anything unusual happens.
Modesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2876 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4900 times:
Per company policy, we minimize the time that the cockpit door is opened. If one of us needs to exit the cockpit, we first coordinate with the flight attendant to make sure all customers are seated and that the rear lavatory is available. The pilot exits the cockpit, and then the flight attendant occupies the cockpit to ensure that two people are always in the flight deck (assuming no jumpseat rider). Upon re-entry, the pilot rings the cockpit and we verify the person at the door. Many times, we crack the door open so the F/A can pass drinks and food - that's important! However, she keeps her body in front of the door to prevent access to the flight deck.
F9fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 704 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4772 times:
On my last flight on F9, LAX to DEN, I was seated in 1C. About halfway through the flight, one of the F/As took the service cart and parked it sideways across the aisle. Then, the cockpit door opened, and one of the pilots went to the forward lavatory. After he was done, he returned to the flight deck, the F/A served them some refreshments, the door was closed, and the cart returned to its normal position. During the whole time, except when the F/A was serving the pilots, she (a female F/A) watched the cabin from behind the service cart.
Noelg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4696 times:
I've seen it happen all the time on most of my flights (although I don't have to go to the USA often).
The flight deck door is opened when they're serving drinks or if the captain needs a whazz, they don't block the door though. There's normally an F/A in the galley area around the flight deck, but it's certainly not blocked or anything.
On a couple of flights in NZ the flight deck door was never closed - once on a Saab 340 and once on a Beech 1900C - simply left open the entire flight! It's great to be able to see the crew at work during takeoff and landing, all from the comfort of your seat!