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User currently offlineApodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4304 posts, RR: 6
Posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4021 times:

I came across an article at work today that had a list of the top 50 airports served by regional carriers. Then I thought, with all the RJ's flooding the market, which airports have the most mainline service left in this country. So I did a little research, and some of these results may intrigue you guys. One thing to note, these numbers are US carriers only.

Top ten Mainline Airports (Most mainline departures each day)

1. ATL 754
2. ORD 564
3. DFW 557
4. MDW 513
5. LAS 496
6. PHX 489
7. LAX 446
8. DEN 433
9. MSP 332
10. MCO 327

Top Ten Express Airports (Most Regional Carrier departures each day)

1. ORD 593
2. ATL 407
3. IAH 389
4. CVG 356
5. CLT 350
6. DFW 311
7. PHL 304
8. DEN 291
9. DTW 271
10. IAD 259

Some other interesting tidbits I discovered.

Among airports that are considered hubs by major airlines CLE has the fewest number of mainline departures at only 75. Next fewest is CVG at only 81, followed by MEM at 89. (PIT has 87, but its only a focus city these days) Some interesting airports that have more mainline flights than these places include BNA, MCI, and PDX.

Half of the airports that are in the top ten mainline airports are Southwest strongholds.

Both ORD and ATL have more flights per day than all three new york airports COMBINED.


I thought I would throw this list out since we always have these RJ vs Mainline debates, and throwing stats, are there airports you think should see more mainline service, more express service, or what. And if you have any further questions about my research, I will answer them.

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User currently offlineWeAreUnited From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 423 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4014 times:

Does this include all international flights as well?

Quoting Apodino (Thread starter):
Half of the airports that are in the top ten mainline airports are Southwest strongholds.

Are you considering LAX a WN stronghold?!? I know they are large there- but isn't United the largest carrier at LAX?


User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26028 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4005 times:

Thanks for the post, however your numbers seem to be serious flawed when it comes to LAX.

For instance LAX has about 900-950 air carrier departures per day. Your list shows 446 mainline departures, but yet dont list LAX at all when it comes express movements.

Basically your numbers don't come close to the 900+ daily airline departures LAX handles.



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User currently offlineSESGDL From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3489 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3994 times:

Quoting WeAreUnited (Reply 1):
Are you considering LAX a WN stronghold?!? I know they are large there- but isn't United the largest carrier at LAX?

LAX is a WN stronghold, they are one of the 3 largest carriers.

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 2):
Thanks for the post, however your numbers seem to be serious flawed when it comes to LAX.

For instance LAX has about 900-950 air carrier departures per day. Your list shows 446 mainline departures, but yet dont list LAX at all when it comes express movements.

Basically your numbers don't come close to the 900+ daily airline departures LAX handles.

Something about the numbers is way off. ATL for instance gets over 600 daily DL mainline planes, over 230 FL flights, and about 100 other airline's flights. That should be closer to 950 mainline flights a day to the 754 listed.

Jeremy


User currently offlineApodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4304 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3867 times:

Quoting Laxintl (Reply 2):
Thanks for the post, however your numbers seem to be serious flawed when it comes to LAX.

For instance LAX has about 900-950 air carrier departures per day. Your list shows 446 mainline departures, but yet dont list LAX at all when it comes express movements.

Basically your numbers don't come close to the 900+ daily airline departures LAX handles.

You didn't read my post carefully at all. The reason I didn't post express movements is because LAX is not in the top ten airports when it comes to express movements. LAX actually ranked 14th in the category. The source of my information is the Regional Airline Association, so the numbers are theirs, except in the cases of LAS and MDW, where I had to look up the info myself at airport websites.

Quoting WeAreUnited (Reply 1):
Does this include all international flights as well?

The list I referenced said Daily nonstop departures by us carriers. It didn't specify if it included international or not. If it didn't include international flights, that could explain a few things. But I figured it did, since they actually included YYZ on their list.



Quoting SESGDL (Reply 3):
Something about the numbers is way off. ATL for instance gets over 600 daily DL mainline planes, over 230 FL flights, and about 100 other airline's flights. That should be closer to 950 mainline flights a day to the 754 listed.

I am just telling you what the information I had said. Keep in mind, this is only total number of departures, not total number of flights. Also this is from January, when Delta probably had fewer flights per day as well.


User currently offlineCommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11840 posts, RR: 62
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 3867 times:

Quoting Apodino (Thread starter):
Among airports that are considered hubs by major airlines CLE has the fewest number of mainline departures at only 75. Next fewest is CVG at only 81, followed by MEM at 89. (PIT has 87, but its only a focus city these days) Some interesting airports that have more mainline flights than these places include BNA, MCI, and PDX.

I thought AA's St. Louis hub had only 50-55 daily mainline departures, no?


User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 26028 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 3826 times:

Quoting Apodino (Reply 4):
You didn't read my post carefully at all



Quoting Apodino (Reply 4):
LAX is not in the top ten airports when it comes to express movements



Quoting Apodino (Reply 4):
The list I referenced said Daily nonstop departures by us carriers. It didn't specify if it included international or not. If it didn't include international flights, that could explain a few things. But I figured it did, since they actually included YYZ on their list.

I read your post a couple times to try to understand the numbers, as they seem inconsistent.

I certainly understand LAX is not in the top-10 express departures category.

But the numbers simply dont add up. Neither international, nor foreign carriers make up the 400 or so daily flights to reach the 900 mark of air carrier departures LAX has.

As is, between between Southwest, United, American they equal about 320 of your listed "446 mainline departures" which would mean every other US airlines mainline departures had to fall within that 125 or so difference. Something simply not possible as other carriers such as America West, Alaska, Delta are busy themselves at LAX, not counting carriers such as Continenatal, Northwest, US Airways, Frontier, Midwest, Airtran etc..

I'd really be curious as to what the source and methodology of data is in the document you are looking at is using.



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User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3729 times:

Quoting Apodino (Thread starter):
PIT has 87, but its only a focus city these days) Some interesting airports that have more mainline flights than these places include BNA, MCI, and PDX.

Pittsburgh has 43 mainline departures, and 119 express flights, I am not sure where you got 87?? I am hoping to see the number jump back up to around 55 or 60 mainline flights as O&D continues to rise!



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User currently offlineMtnWest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2481 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3713 times:
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Quoting CentPIT (Reply 7):
Pittsburgh has 43 mainline departures,

Only 43 amongst all the airlines there? Or only US?



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User currently offlineVegasplanes From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 778 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3682 times:

Quoting Commavia (Reply 5):

I thought AA's St. Louis hub had only 50-55 daily mainline departures, no?

I believe Apodino is quoting total mainline ops. (all airlines) for a hub airport, therefore STL has over 110 departures daily easily with AA and WN alone.


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8341 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3586 times:

Quoting Apodino (Thread starter):
CLE has the fewest number of mainline departures at only 75

It's gotta be more than that. My count for August mainline is:

CO- 63 (give or take a couple, I used the pdf timetable)
WN- 20
NW- 8
U5- 6 (average, not all days have the same # of flights)
US- 3
DL- 2
UA-2

That makes 104, still not the best but better than 75.

[Edited 2006-08-01 01:20:51]


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User currently offlineTl8490 From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3535 times:

This only makes sense if you read what he said....This are flight schedules for January...not the summer buildup.....

User currently offlineOH-LGA From Denmark, joined Oct 1999, 1436 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3525 times:

Interesting about LAX - would have expected more. In terms of daily departures, SkyWest is actually the largest airline in LAX with 141 daily departures.


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User currently offlineCentPIT From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 990 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3371 times:

Quoting MtnWest1979 (Reply 8):
Only 43 amongst all the airlines there? Or only US?

I meant 43 for US in Pittsburgh! Sorry...

US-43
WN-20
NW-5
CO-2
DL-5
B6-6
FL-5
UA-6

I get 92 as of Aug. 3, 2006...so 87 for Jan. sounds about right!



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