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Trans Atlantic Airlines L1011 - New Photos  
User currently offlineL1011dal From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 138 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 24091 times:

Check out the temporary livery and new photos of Trans Atlantic Airlines. It's nice to see the L1011 being prepared for flight again.

http://www.l1011.homestead.com/flytaair.html

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User currently offlineIrobertson From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 601 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 24034 times:

Beautiful! This news comes as I heard that Global is flying a restored AT L1011 from Montreal to the middle east. Hope this company is going to eventually come up with a new paint scheme. Seeing the Delta colors on a flying Tristar is great and all but a nice new paint job would be even better.

User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 24006 times:

What is this? A real airline with an L1011? What routes? I never heard of this airline before.. .


There is something special about planes....
User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 750 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 23980 times:

The L1011 is and will be my favorite widebody aircraft.

Quoting Captaink (Reply 2):
What is this? A real airline with an L1011? What routes? I never heard of this airline before.. .

Yeah...who is Trans Atlantic???


User currently offlineAvianca707359B From Colombia, joined Oct 2005, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 23932 times:

If anyone really believes this bird is going to fly anytime soon as a Trans Atlantic Airlines scheduled carrier to Africa, take a look at this press release from ARC (Airlines Reporting Corporation), an industry-wide ticketing distribution network:

http://www.arccorp.com/news/news_pr0340.html

Excerpt:
"Trans Atlantic Airlines will launch its maiden flight on October 30, 2003."

In addition, the new photos show the sloppiest temporary livery (or should I say "stickers") ever applied to a commercial aircraft in the history of aviation!

Good luck to them and to anyone that gives them a credit card number.



In Memory of HK-1402 "Sucre" & HK-1410 "Bolivar"
User currently offlineVfw614 From Germany, joined Dec 2001, 4013 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 23932 times:

As per website:

TransAtlantic Airlines, based in New York, is preparing N723 in Victorville for its first flight since landing at Victorville in 2001. Ship 723 is the first former Delta L1011 being reactivated for revenue service across the Atlantic from New York's JFK International Airport. Plans include operating the L1011, re-registered to TransAtlantic airlines, from JFK to destinations in West Africa and within Africa.


User currently offlineAvianca707359B From Colombia, joined Oct 2005, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 23884 times:

Here's a link to Trans Atlantic's Inauguration reception:

http://africanevents.com/TransAtlanticAirlines.htm

This version of the route structure is as follows:

"Service Route: JFK to Lagos via Freetown. Monday through Thursday"

A few months later, the ARC press release said this:

"Trans Atlantic Airlines will operate service between New York (JFK) and Freetown, Sierra Leone and Banjul, The Gambia, with continuing flights to Lagos, Nigeria".

I'll believe this one when British Airways brings back Concorde and then introduces "Deluxe 2-stop service between New York Idlewild and London Heathrow with updated Super-Constellations".

Enough said.

[Edited 2006-07-31 18:58:03]

[Edited 2006-07-31 19:02:17]


In Memory of HK-1402 "Sucre" & HK-1410 "Bolivar"
User currently offlineIrobertson From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 601 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 23838 times:

Oh everyone's a cynic  Smile Hey, I'm always willing to give new airlines the benefit of the doubt. Be nice to see it work.

User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25772 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 23795 times:

I would not hold my breath for this one. Check out DOT filings.

Looks like they tried back in 2003 and received authority to serve several point in West Africa using a 3rd party carrier. However their application was withdrawn in 2004 due to "outstanding commercial disputes" involving courts in the US, UK and Sierra Leone.

Nothing else has been filed with the DOT since then, let alone an air carrier certification process to fly their own aircraft.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7507 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 23795 times:

I saw this plane last week in VCV,but couldn't get a good shot of it. Of course it was also 110 out !


'Empathy was yesterday...Today, you're wasting my Mother-F'ing time' - Heat.
User currently offlineRichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4278 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 23740 times:

My goodness, I hope this is a joke...

As much as I would love to see L-1011s flying again, I wouldn't want to see them flying unsafely under some crappy airline like this.



None shall pass!!!!
User currently offlineAvianca707359B From Colombia, joined Oct 2005, 206 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 23707 times:

And here's the latest version of Trans Atlantic Airlines:

http://www.africa-ata.org/kambi.htm

Excerpt:

"This newly formed airline carrier is the only scheduled direct airline carrier to West Africa from JFK International Airport in New York and Dulles International Airport in Washington, D.C. to Lagos, Nigeria; Banjul, The Gambia; Freetown, Sierra Leone; and Dakar, Senegal. According to the Chairman and CEO of Trans Atlantic Airlines, Chief I.J.O. Njoku, a Nigerian national and New York-based entrepreneur with a strong track record in real estate development, "This new airline service will be highly focused on the expansion of U.S.-Africa market requirements and promises to restore the comfort, reliability and affordability of traveling to West Africa as it was meant to be. Passengers to West Africa currently have to connect through Europe with 7-8 hours layover, coupled with higher ticket costs. Trans Atlantic Airlines has shortened the amount of time in half required to fly to West Africa with direct routes and superior services for its customers. Overall, Trans Atlantic Airlines promises no delays, no hassles, no transit visas, and most importantly, no luggage will be left behind."

Trans Atlantic Airlines will operate from New York twice weekly to Lagos via Banjul and once a week to Lagos via Freetown. The JFK International Airport (New York) service will commence on October 30, 2003. Trans Atlantic Airlines will operate once a week from Washington, D.C. to Lagos via Dakar as well as once a week to Lagos via Freetown. The Dulles International Airport (Washington, D.C.) service is scheduled to commence on December 8, 2003. In addition, Trans Atlantic Airlines will be operating from Houston International Airport directly to Port Harcourt in Nigeria via Banjul. This service is expected to commence in December 2003. Chief Njoku has successfully assembled a senior management team for the airline carrier with more than 160 combined years of proven expertise and experience in the airline industry to include SAS, World Airways, Gulf Air, Air India and Kuwait Airways. Trans Atlantic Airlines will operate a state-of-the-art Airbus A330-300 wide body aircraft with forty-two reclining flat bed seats and 236 premium economy seats with ample luggage space to truly satisfy the needs of the leisure traveler and the business traveler as well as the ethnic traveler to the above-mentioned West African destinations. Trans Atlantic Airlines is an Airlines Reporting Corporation (ARC) participant as well as a member airline of the International Airlines Travel Association (IATA). Trans Atlantic Airlines" airline industry code is KC/448 and its schedules and fares are now available in Galileo, Sabre, Worldspan and Amadeus."

I'll let everyone know when they order 6 A380's for their new shuttle service to Harare, Zimbabwe.

[Edited 2006-07-31 19:21:54]

[Edited 2006-07-31 19:22:20]


In Memory of HK-1402 "Sucre" & HK-1410 "Bolivar"
User currently offlineDTWAGENT From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1283 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 23433 times:

I sure do miss these L-1011's. This was my first plane I flew on. I wish they were still flying here in the USA still today..

Chuck


User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 23338 times:

I'm with BatonOp's on this. The TriStar is and always will be my favorite aircraft!!!

A lot of people complain about the decal and livery, but I think its just splendid. I wonder why? I guess my dream of having an L-10 returned to service in Delta colors(somewhat) has come true. Especially even down to the TriStar logo on the number 2 engine inlet. Gotta love that! I say fly them as is. cloudnine  Its just too bad that Trans-Atlantic will be an African carrier only flying to JFK.(sigh)

Long live the TriStar and the Delta Belle!!











OttoPylit


User currently offlineBY738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2364 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 23173 times:

The interior from the first link is absolutely shocking

User currently offlineLijnden From Philippines, joined Apr 2003, 564 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 23136 times:
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User currently offlineMKEdude From South Korea, joined May 2005, 1011 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 23136 times:

As much as I love the L1011, and would love to see them up and running again I have to agree with the skeptics and say that something doesn't smell right here. This new "operator" seems shady as hell, and the fact that they aren't even painting the plane is a red flag.


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User currently offlineFoxecho From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 747 posts, RR: 17
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 23085 times:

Otto-

thats me in the dead center of that last photo!  Smile

Andrew
JFK/MEM/MCI



..uh, we'll need that to live......
User currently offlineAsstChiefMark From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 23059 times:

TransAtlantic Airlines... Sounds like the name of an airline in a bad disaster movie.  scared 

Mark


User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5265 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 23043 times:

This isn't going to happen. North American is already flying JFK-ACC, JFK-Banjul, BWI-Banjul and JFK-Lagos, with a 763.

Delta is going to come in on JFK-ACC soon, which will probably push NAO off that route. Sadly, they won't be using L1011s, but they will be on the route. Given that kind of competition, these guys are toast.


User currently offlineVasu From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 3932 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 22701 times:

That is indeed a terrible interior... looks like some ancient bus - not what I'd want to be in for a long flight over water!

User currently offlineWarreng24 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 22601 times:

Did all L-1011's have NO overhead bins over the center bank of seats?

User currently offline747hogg From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 22204 times:

Anything with "Africa" equates to "Con Game" in the venture capitol world. This is such a sham that it should be on the Dave Chappell show! They blew a whopping $40 bucks on the stick on letters... sure looks like a serious venture to me! Don't even bother to fill in the gaps in the cheat line, just let um' go. I would rather call this thing the Fred Sanford special than the African Queen!
As soon as my Trillion $$$ arrives from the lotto I somehow won in Nigeria, I'll book one of these ghetto fabulus seats in first class!


User currently offlineAC320tech From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 197 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 22044 times:

Anyone else notice thos big huge ovens in the lower deck galley?

User currently offlineThomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 4001 posts, RR: 26
Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 21852 times:

Quoting Avianca707359B (Reply 11):
In addition, Trans Atlantic Airlines will be operating from Houston International Airport directly to Port Harcourt in Nigeria via Banjul. This service is expected to commence in December 2003

I knew this name sounded familiar, I remember when this alleged start-up was posted here in '02'. Indeed, this sounds like another plan to scam money out of investors.

Quoting Avianca707359B (Reply 11):
Overall, Trans Atlantic Airlines promises no delays, no hassles, no transit visas, and most importantly, no luggage will be left behind."

 laughing  What carrier in their right mind would publicly make such a statement?  laughing 

Thomas



"Show me the Braniffs"
25 TheLUREnyc : One being run by a Nigerian named: Not like this airline will really happen anyway, but what an indignity for a former Delta L1011 to suffer. Being r
26 474218 : Center line bins were a option, first offered on the -500's then all L-1011's.
27 Notdownnlocked : Those were the original ovens that served DL for almost 3 decades in the lower galley. I called the phone number in the website in NYC and it was sti
28 Avianca707359B : OK. I decidied to give this outfit the benefit of the doubt; so from one of the links above: "Trans-Atlantic Airlines - New York Office: 132 Nassau S
29 Alitalia744 : 727!
30 Falstaff : Or maybe a 70s-80s TV Drama!
31 AY104 : I have to agree. That is an old domestic interior! Even in it's last days that interior and bulkhead look like something out of the 60's. Don't mean
32 TZTriStar500 : N723DA is an L-1011-40 with only about a 2900nm range. This aircraft doesn't even have the range to make it to West Africa non-stop!! I won't even beg
33 Expatmatt : Nice to see how a supposed-member of IATA can't even properly state what IATA actually stands for... [International Air Transport Association]. Also
34 UAL-Fan : That thing looks scary!
35 Post contains images Wazobia : The real question is will you fly it
36 Falstaff : I think I would give it a whirl. The first flight out of the shop would be ok, I hope. But after a couple of trips to Africa and back I would have to
37 Post contains images Wjcandee : Well that's rational. FWIW, my uncle flew those things in the left seat from as soon as Eastern acquired them until they made him retire. He used to
38 Irobertson : Hey, I flew on Jetsgo a few times, and Royal Airlines. If the FAA approves an L1011 as airworthy and fit for service, I'll fly on it. Honestly though
39 Wazobia : Hey, if you do get that drunk, just chew a kola nut that will sober you up real fast. Then head for the nearest North American, BA etc. ticket counte
40 Falstaff : As long as I am not so drunk I pull a David Hasselhoff (spelling?). I don't need to wet my pants and get booted off the plane, ha ha !
41 747hogg : This plane is most likely still sitting in the desert as of 8-1-2006! Must not take much to buy the right to paste your name on the side of a hull the
42 We're Nuts : Wow, they can afford an L1011 but not their own website. Heck, even Geocities would be more impressive than Homestead.
43 Post contains links and images LN-MOW : At least it was when I took this picture six hours ago....
44 Post contains links Joffie : is this supposed to be related http://www.africanevents.com/InterviewwithChiefNjoku.htm ???
45 Wjcandee : They were all set to go three years ago? And were going to use A330s, according to the article? But now they are digging an aircraft out of the deser
46 Post contains images Jafa39 : I've e-mailed for details of their flight crew vacancies...I'll let you know how i get on, I've been to the Gambia, wouldn't mind going again.
47 Irobertson : Is there any possibility that they've scrounged up other 22B engines from other Delta birds? The whole range thing does seem a little disconcerting. Y
48 Bennett123 : How many 22B are available from parked aircraft and storage?.
49 CV990 : Hi! In what movie is this L1011 going to take part??? With Tom Cruise or 007??? Regards
50 Vasu : As strange as it looks... this aircraft is supposedly with a new airline!
51 TZTriStar500 : Yes, there is plenty of timed out, unservicable, junked engines, but nobody works on anything -22B related anymore. Trying to make this work as a US
52 Bennett123 : So what happened to ATA's operation, engineers etc?.
53 Wjcandee : So you don't get folks' hopes up (they'll grasp at any straw): (1) Give them a sense of what it would cost to maintain your own engine shop...like a
54 747hogg : Delta Queen..... how about Congo Lisa! WHAT A JOKE!
55 United_fan : I remember seeing DL L10's being scrapped with thier engines still on the wings because the engine cores are only worth scrap metal.
56 TZTriStar500 : Bill, your comments are right on target. Well first of all there are no more MRO shops that will overhaul an RB211-22B anywhere in the world. When AT
57 Wjcandee : Beautiful post, TriStar!
58 Stirling : I echo that. It seems fairly clear that this is nothing more than a slick con to bilk people out of their money.....this poor L-1011 was probably dir
59 747hogg : One was sold, and it was on a.net to boot, for $500.000 USD with a ferry permit. and it was a former EAL bird that ended up busted up. Pease look it u
60 Notdownnlocked : Don't laugh too hard. I saw Delta people wet their pants today when ex Delta ship 741 showed up in ATL. It is supposed to return tomorrow but where it
61 Wjcandee : That any American agency would hire Sky Gate to do anything involving our citizens is, in my personal view, terribly frightening. I seriously doubt t
62 TZTriStar500 : I am very shocked by this as well. I am surprised that aircraft was even allowed anywhere near US airspace, let alone to land in the US. I am sure th
63 Post contains images Jafa39 : No reply...but then you were expecting that eh?
64 Post contains links Stirling : Take It All For What Its Worth: According to their website, the founders of Sky Gate maintained and operated the L1011 of Jordanian Kings Hussein and
65 Notdownnlocked : The crews from Skygate said the L-1011's were holding up very well and there weren't many problems but who knows? Maybe they are aging gracefully but
66 EMBQA : A quick check of the tail number on the FAA web site comes up invalid..... The web site is bogus.. my guess someone messing around.
67 Post contains links TZTriStar500 : No, it isn't. Try this.... http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...QL.asp?verified=1&NNumbertxt=723DA
68 N766UA : LOL, it says TAA in generic font on the tail with the old Delta rudder still on there?! What the hell, did they do that livery in MS paint? Old DL sea
69 Wjcandee : Maybe when they were at Royal Jordanian Airlines, but not now.
70 JGPH1A : Hmmm - they are identified as being PCA in Amadeus but have filed no flight schedules. I'm investigating, because we have another carrier who have be
71 777fan : Trans Atlantic?! More like Trans Delta or Trans Gender! The rehab effort it valiant but the a/c looks like something out of a 1980s made-for-tv movie
72 Wjcandee : Well, I have to say that from the FAA registration data that it looks like these guys are actually trying to register this aircraft, although the stat
73 Post contains images A380Heavy : Who cares who is trying/succeeding to get L1011's flying - so long as someone is!!! The TriStar was and still is a beautiful aircraft. The No. 2 engin
74 777fan : That's nothing compared to some of the relics in the USAF! They're flying tankers circa the late 1950s! The VC-10, however, is a beauty. 777fan
75 L1011Lover : Sorry to say, and with all due respect but that is complete nonsense and is a totally worthless comment. The L1011 has an excellent safety record and
76 JGPH1A : I checked and this carriers has no participating carrier agreement any more with Amadeus, it was cancelled a couple of years ago. I have doubts that
77 L1011dal : Does anyone know if the aircraft moved from the VCV ramp? Engine runs or taxi movements?
78 LN-MOW : I was at VCV all last week and as far as I could tell, it didn't move an inch.
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