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Routes Flown With B772s By European Carriers  
User currently offlineB777flier From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 1 posts, RR: 0
Posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5381 times:

Does anybody know:

a) On what routes does BA, AF, KLM and AZ fly their 777-200ERs?

and

b) If some of those routes could be flown using a B777-200A (non-ER) with GE-90-90B engines and 545,000 lbs MTOW, 250 seat configuration?

I would really appreciate anybody's feedback on this topic. Thanks.

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User currently offlineCO7e7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2849 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5357 times:

First, WELCOME TO A.NET

Quoting B777flier (Thread starter):
On what routes does BA, AF, KLM and AZ fly their 777-200ERs?

BA - LHR to JFK and EWR
KL - AMS to JFK
AF - CDG to JFK
AZ - FCO-JFK and EWR to MXP (i'm not very sure about that one)

-Zaki


User currently offlineMisbeehavin From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5337 times:

Currently

AF - CDG to:
ATL, BOM, DEL, DKR, DXB, EZE, GRU, IAD, IAH, JFK, LAX, MEX, NRT, PEK, PVG, SCL, YUL

KL - AMS to:
CAI, CPT, CTU, DAR, DXB, EWR, GRU, JFK, JRO, KIX, MNL, NBO, NRT

Edit to add DKR. Did I miss any more?

[Edited 2006-07-31 20:55:09]

User currently offlineMisbeehavin From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5305 times:

And AZ

MXP to:
EZE, GRU, JFK, KIX, NRT

FCO to:
EWR, EZE, JFK, NRT


User currently offlineAF022 From France, joined Dec 2003, 2173 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5290 times:

What kind of configuration do the three carriers have? I think I heard that high-density layout isn't great for long-haul because of payload issues.

The longest route I have seen is CDGSCL on AF, but AF's layout is low-density with only 264 seats.


User currently offlineMalpensaSFO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5266 times:

Alitalia

DEL(Sometimes)
DXB(Sometimes)
KIX
NRT
JFK
EWR
BOS(Rumoured)
MIA(Sometimes)
EZE
GRU


User currently offlineBlrBird From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5242 times:

BA

LHR:
BOM,DEL,BLR,MAA & CCU



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User currently offlineORDRyan28 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 988 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5221 times:

KL will be flying their 772Er's to ORD sometime next year, as well.

-Ryan



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User currently offlineSK601 From Belgium, joined Jun 2005, 976 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5212 times:

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 2):
KL - AMS to:
CAI, CPT, CTU, DAR, DXB, EWR, GRU, JFK, JRO, KIX, MNL, NBO, NRT

and ACC.

This week 2 AMS-BCN-AMS flights were also operated with the B777-200 to get all the stranded passengers (due to BCN strike) at their destination.

As from summer 2007 - ORD and LIM. CPT will go to B747.


User currently offlineOrdryan28 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 988 posts, RR: 16
Reply 9, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5194 times:

Quoting SK601 (Reply 8):
As from summer 2007 - ORD and LIM. CPT will go to B747

do you mean those destinations will go from a 747 to a 777, ORD is currently operated with a 74E.



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User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3339 posts, RR: 20
Reply 10, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5050 times:

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 1):
BA - LHR to JFK and EWR

BA will start operating the B772 on its LHR-SIN-SYD route from northern wibter 2006.

BA15/16 will change from B744, which I think is being redeployed to India.


User currently offlineMisbeehavin From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5032 times:

BA's 772's currently go from LON to:
ABV, ANU, ATL, AUH, BAH, BDA, BGI, BLR, BOM, BOS, CAI, CCU, DAC, DEL, DEN, DFW, DOH, DXB, EWR, GND, HRE, IAD, IAH, JFK, KIN, KWI, LAD, MAA, MCO, MCT, NBO, ORD, PEK, PHL, PVG, TAB, TLV, TPA, UVF, YUL, YYZ.

Quoting 6thfreedom (Reply 10):
BA will start operating the B772 on its LHR-SIN-SYD route from northern wibter 2006.

BA15/16 will change from B744, which I think is being redeployed to India.

That is correct. LHR-BOM & DEL will become 2 x daily 744.


User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 12, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5015 times:

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 3):
And AZ

MXP to:
EZE, GRU, JFK, KIX, NRT

FCO to:
EWR, EZE, JFK, NRT

AZ also flies the 777 to MIA between October and May; to Newark June-September.

[Edited 2006-08-01 05:14:44]


a.
User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 13, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4985 times:

Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 1):
First, WELCOME TO A.NET

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Quoting CO7e7 (Reply 1):
BA - LHR to JFK and EWR

add ORD...

KL was flying 777's into SFO during the summer season, but have stuck with the MD-11 this summer... Sad


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I've seen AF send their 777's to SFO, but right now, they are bringing in their 747's...


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Quoting Ordryan28 (Reply 9):
do you mean those destinations will go from a 747 to a 777, ORD is currently operated with a 74E.

Keep the KL-747's in Chicago.... Sad



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User currently offlineOrdryan28 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 988 posts, RR: 16
Reply 14, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 4964 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 13):
Keep the KL-747's in Chicago.... Sad

disagreed there. although it will be sad to see the 747's go, the 777's will be a great replacement. I personally cannot wait to see their 777's here...

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 13):
Love the BA-777's

definitely



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7633 posts, RR: 42
Reply 15, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4784 times:

I am not sure if the AF 772ER's that come to MEX have a 3-class or 2-class configuration. Can anyone advise?


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4763 posts, RR: 44
Reply 16, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4763 times:

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 15):
I am not sure if the AF 772ER's that come to MEX have a 3-class or 2-class configuration. Can anyone advise?

All AF 777s have 3-class configs.



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 59
Reply 17, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4755 times:

Quoting Ordryan28 (Reply 14):
disagreed there. although it will be sad to see the 747's go, the 777's will be a great replacement. I personally cannot wait to see their 777's here...

I love the KL-777's too..but ORD has enough 777's so a nice "old-school" 747E would be nice to stick around @ ORD.... Smile



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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7633 posts, RR: 42
Reply 18, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4742 times:

Quoting Alitalia744 (Reply 16):
All AF 777s have 3-class configs.

Thanks Gus. I guess AF still has not considered joining the many carriers who believe that the future is a very premium business class instead of both first and business.

On a separate subject, AF should introduce economy plus (I know they already have Tempo Alizé in some leisure flights, but I am thinking in all long-haul flights, like BA and its WT+).

Gus, sent you an e-mail, hope you received it.



Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7428 posts, RR: 57
Reply 19, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4722 times:

Quoting Misbeehavin (Reply 2):
AF - CDG to:
ATL, BOM, DEL, DKR, DXB, EZE, GRU, IAD, IAH, JFK, LAX, MEX, NRT, PEK, PVG, SCL, YUL

+ ABJ, LBV, CAI

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 15):
I am not sure if the AF 772ER's that come to MEX have a 3-class or 2-class configuration. Can anyone advise?

B773ER config : 8P / 67J / 235Y or 14J / 36S / 422M


B772ER old config : 12P / 56J / 202Y, progressively replaced by the new config : 4P / 49J / 211Y


User currently offlineORDRyan28 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 988 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4669 times:

Quoting Jacobin777 (Reply 17):

I love the KL-777's too..but ORD has enough 777's so a nice "old-school" 747E would be nice to stick around @ ORD....

I can understand that...but not sure exactly how long they will last at ORD.



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User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2036 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 4617 times:

Quoting B777flier (Thread starter):
b) If some of those routes could be flown using a B777-200A (non-ER) with GE-90-90B engines and 545,000 lbs MTOW, 250 seat configuration?

I've no idea of the top of my ahead about their configurations, but BA does fly it's (GE90) 772A's across the atlantic to the east coast - is BA, as a launch customer, the only european airline with A model 777s?



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User currently offlineOrdryan28 From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 988 posts, RR: 16
Reply 22, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4596 times:

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 21):
is BA, as a launch customer, the only european airline with A model 777s?

I'm pretty sure they are...can anyone else specify?

where on the east coast does BA send their A 777's?
...never seen a 77A in the US



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User currently offlineVV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 7737 posts, RR: 17
Reply 23, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4546 times:

Quoting AirbusA6 (Reply 21):
I've no idea of the top of my ahead about their configurations, but BA does fly it's (GE90) 772A's across the atlantic to the east coast - is BA, as a launch customer, the only european airline with A model 777s?

BA took delivery of five 772As but subsequently returned two to Boeing. The three remaining aircraft (G-ZZZA, 'B and 'C - note that shape wise 'ZZZ' is as close to '777' as you can get) are used primarily on Middle East routes. Their cabins are configured for 214 passengers (F17 / J46 / W24 / M127).

All three may well have crossed the North Atlantic but, if they have, not very often since their delivery flights.


User currently offlineLhrmaccoll From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (8 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4542 times:

BA takes a 772 from LGW to BDA daily

25 VV701 : I've now searched the photo data base and was quite surprised to find as many as 5 photos of G-ZZZC and three each of G-ZZZA and G-ZZZB taken on the
26 Kaitak744 : Why was this? And where are those aircraft now? Also, does anyone know the routes where BA uses GE 777s and where BA uses RR 777s?
27 Post contains images Misbeehavin : True. When the winter schedules come into effect and then again at ramdom other times, there's going to be plenty of changes to the lists of cities s
28 Post contains images Jacobin777 : probably not long enough..
29 Ordryan28 : lol...but look on the bright side...it's not like you're going to lose the airline as a whole...just the aircraft, and hey, you get to spot 'crafts t
30 FlySSC : GRU will see a DAILY B773ER + 5 x Weekly A332 next winter. No B744.
31 LouA340 : I think AF also uses their T7s to LOS as well and I've seen Alitalia's 777s at YYZ but I'm not sure if it was the MXP or the FCO flight.
32 Post contains images Jacobin777 : as I said, it would be nice if they bring in various fleets given the day of the week.. .. lets see. Monday-744 Tuesday-767 Wednesday-777 Thursday-A3
33 Post contains images FlySSC : LOS is Daily served with an A332.
34 Ordryan28 : now that would be awesome
35 Jbmitt : It would be awesome for the pilots having to wait a week to rotate out. Unless they managed double daily service.
36 Trekster : You all forgot another service on which the BA777 is used sometimes LGW-MAN
37 Ordryan28 : really? wow, I never knew BA used their 772's on domestic routes -Ryan
38 Trekster : They do. On the odd occasion a 737 is not avail they put a 777 on it. 3 or 4 times now. Sam has been on it once, and me and a mate were booked on it b
39 MauriceB : For the people that are addicted to some of the KLM planes, don't worry, KLM switches more planes than the amount of different men a whore has. Withou
40 Ordryan28 : does anyone know if BA plans on using their 777s to ORD and completely terminate the 744 from the route, or will they continue to switch between the t
41 Post contains images Jacobin777 : It's going to go from the 2x-777's and 1x-747 to 2x-777 and 1x-767 (instead of hte 3x-777's that we are used to seeing)...however, during the summer,
42 LHR777 : These aircraft regularly serve YYZ and other East-coast cities. They're also often used to the middle-east. I flew on -ZZC just a few weeks ago from
43 HB-IWC : Latest news suggests that KL611/612 AMS ORD will remain operated by a B74E next summer. The CRS, which until last week indicated a B772ER on the rout
44 Post contains images Jacobin777 : thanks for the updated information. intersting... ... maybe they are shuffling the schedules until they can get some sort of fix on what the variable
45 Ordryan28 : well, we've still got a while yet, maybe they'll change their minds again-hopefully perfect answer, thanks -Ryan
46 LTU932 : I thought the 772A at BA have the GE90-75? CO operates -200ERs with GE90-90Bs, but those could theoretically be uprated to -94Bs. One route that was
47 ACDC8 : The B767 has been used for winter services and the MD11 has been used for summer services. This has been this way for the last several years. Having
48 Post contains images Jacobin777 : anytime... I've flown ORD-LHR on BA's 777 WTP+...great service at a very good price...however I fly on AA now.....just flew AA ORD-LHR-LAX on their 7
49 Ordryan28 : BA does have a very low rate from ORD-LHR. I bet their t7's are very nice, dunno if they could beat out AA's tho... jacobin777, looks like you got yo
50 Post contains images Jacobin777 : lol..I was happy when I saw it.. that being said, I would have preferred my other situation..i.e.flying different planes of the week.. They are both
51 Post contains images ORDRyan28 : theres more 747 operators out of ORD than I thought now that I think of it... LY (til october), UA, JA, BA (summer time), asiana, KL, LH AI, NW (carg
52 Ordryan28 : after thinking about this in my mind, it got me really wondering..why is BA doing this? is it loads, the reason they're downgrading a 744 to a 763? w
53 Post contains images Titch : G-ZZZD and G-ZZZE were returned to Boeing in 2002 for further re-lease to Khalifa. As we all know, Khalifa's plans to operate these two aircraft didn
54 LipeGIG : PP-VRC is not at GIG anymore, departed last month to Marana, Arizona. Only PP-VRD stays at GIG. Felipe
55 Post contains images Jacobin777 : I can't disagree with you there...but 1 less 747 at ORD is one too many gone.... you are correct.. .. its seasonal when demand is there.....I've flow
56 ORDRyan28 : thanks for the info jacobin777
57 Post contains images Jacobin777 : very welcome..have fun spotting.... my flight I arrive ORD with is a MadDog 80.....guess which one.. ..
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